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Posted By: senn5 Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/07/09 03:21 PM
I realize this has probably been covered a dozen times, but I have to be having a blonde moment here...lol
I have a song completed in BIAB (All tracks are RT). I'm trying to save that and reload into Realband. BIAB only allows me to save the song as mysong.mgu, and when I try to load that into Realband, i get nothing but the chord chart???

And on kinda the same topic, how does the export audio to sequencer supposed to work?

Thaks in advance for any help...:)
Posted By: Mac Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/07/09 09:49 PM
You have to RightClick on each RealTrack and save each one as a wav file separately in the same folder.

Then open the MGU first in RealBand.

Once it is loaded, IMPORT each wav file one at a time to a selected track using the Wave Files command in the File menu, "Import Audio".

There may be another way, but that's what I've been doing and I"ve been doin' alright.


--Mac
Posted By: senn5 Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 08:37 AM
Thanks for the responce again Mac. Every time I try to do what you suggest it proceeds to do just that, but then up comes the box saying "access violation at address bla bla bla". Then the program freezes and have to task manager to shut it down???????
Posted By: Mac Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 02:44 PM
Could be a hard drive problem there, senn5.

Disk may need defragged or the disk in use may be kind of full, etc. etc.

Disk may be too slow or not enough buffer, too.

Or it could be something else like not enough RAM.

Certain Virus Scanners have been troublesome in the past, too.


--Mac
Posted By: senn5 Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 03:10 PM
Thanks for the input Mac. Not so sure its any of the above though. New install of vista and new install of BIAB and RealBand. Over 2gb of ram on a 1tb drive. I did get it working another way. Once I save the song from BIAB as an"mgu" file all of a sudden they now load in Realband with ALL the realtracks in tact. It woudn't do that before??
Go figure.......lol........ its working like its supposed to according to the help file.
Still can't for whatever reason save them though the way you mentioned.
Thanks again for reply.
Posted By: senn5 Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 03:32 PM
In addition to above, I just got it to work your way Mac playing around in the DXi synth settings. It renders and saves the file, and the wav works perfect. But unless i shut down BIAB and restart, the original sounds like "@#$%^" I have no idea on how to set up this DXi stuff, so maybe you have some suggestions there as to how to set it up properly.
Thanks in advance...:)
Posted By: Mac Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 03:37 PM
*If you are attempting to leave BIAB running but minimized while opening RealTracks, then that is your problem.

Shut down BIAB before starting Realtracks.

Because they will start a catfight for your MIDI and Audio resources. They use the same engines under the hood.

If you MUST run both at once, try using MME sound drivers on at least one of them if not both. ASIO can be a "one man dog" driver.

Use of the VSC DXi can also sometimes be problematic, although I have found that it can actually start two different instances when selected as default synth in the two programs at once. This too, can sometimes get problematic, but will often work, just don't be surprised if all of a sudden the VSC DXi synth being used by one program starts receiving commands from the other program or the like.


--Mac
Posted By: senn5 Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 03:55 PM
I;m not running both at the same time. I'm convinced it is in the settings for this dxi thing. I have no idea how to use it, i think is the biggest problem...lol

Everytime i set something in there is when "access violations" start and BIAB locks. If i stay away fom the DXi everything works perfectly. But if I try to save any track as a wave, it says I have to choose to run the dxi??? What options am I missing here??....lol
Posted By: Mac Re: Exporting song from BIAB to Realtracks? - 02/08/09 05:32 PM
Direct "Rendering" of a file goes thru the VSC DXi.

If you are using Vista OS, you may have a problem with the VSC DXi and how it was installed, etc. -- try disabling User Account Control for one thing. You may or may not have to reinstall the VSC DXi after doing that, see if it works first.

I don't do direct Rendering much, as it will make all the MIDI tracks (if any) use the VSC for sounds. Since I use mostly hardware MIDI synths here, I have to bite the bullet and do what we have had to do with hardware MIDI synths from day one, which is to arm an audio track and jack the output of the MIDI synth's audio to the Line Inputs of my soundcard and record them from beginning to end in order to "render" them to audio. For reasons that are beyond me, many users today seem totally upset over having to spend three to five minutes actually recording their song vs the "instant gratification" of the direct rendering thing.

But if you want to render all Audio RealTracks you don't have to go the route of the direct render, you can instead RightClick on each RealTrack name and export each track as a .wav file. Import them one at a time into your sequencer to continue working with them or mix them down to a single stereo file. Or make an mp3, etc.


--Mac
Hello Senn,

Note that if you have Options-Preferences-Song Generation "Auto-generate song when MGU opened" unchecked, then you need to press the [Generate] button when you open the MGU in RealBand.
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