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Posted By: Curmudgeon Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 04:53 PM
Susan Boyle "Cry me a River'

Recorded in 1999.

Don S.
Posted By: ColoradoGuy Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 08:27 PM
Nice.

Some of us ol' coots remember the 1956 recording by Julie London. No fiddle pickers, muted trumper picker, or full orchestra. Just guitar and acoustic bass - and Julie.

I'll bet even Mac remembers hearing this tune, back when his mama held him up to the gas radio.

Two great recordings of the same great song.

Thanks for the post!

Jon
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 08:40 PM
A wee slip of the keyboard there.

Check out Susan Boyle on YouTube, she sprang to life in a British TV show a week or so ago. That went 'viral'.

The song you posted is one of a number she's done since then. All in 2009.

The intro to the talent show shows a middle age frumpy looking woman in a sort of so you can sing show and how she wows the judges. Worth going and looking for that, and she sang acapella on Larry King the other day, saw it on the tele.
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 08:41 PM
Here's the link to what started it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 10:19 PM
Sorry, John -- he is right -- 1999.

The "Cry Me a River" cut was included in a 1999 compilation CD, and maybe nobody heard it. The Brit who made the CD was interviewed this week, expressing regret that he hadn't saved the audition tape she had submitted.

Brad
Posted By: FirstBassman Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/21/09 11:56 PM
Quote:

Susan Boyle "Cry me a River'

Recorded in 1999.

Don S.





Very, very nice.
Better than her TV clip of the Les Miz IMHO.
She was flat on a few notes and sounded amateurish in parts on that one.
Maybe was nervous being on TV.


My favorite "Cry Me A River" is still Joe Cocker's live version on Mad Dogs.
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:17 AM
So much for using youtube's dates for veracity.
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:25 AM
You likely glimpsed the date the video was posted.

To the right is the memo area, which says:

"...From a charity cd made in 1999 of which only 1000 copies were made. "
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:25 AM
Quote:

My favorite "Cry Me A River" is still Joe Cocker's live version on Mad Dogs.


I don't know much about Joe Cocker, but I am old enough to remember Julie London.

Don S.
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:26 AM
Ah, the Mad Dogs.

Leon Russel on guitar...
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:51 AM
Speaking of guitar -- that was the great Barney Kessel on guitar backing up Julie London.
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 01:02 AM
Kessel is one of my all time favorites.

I learned a graduate-level amount of guitar from transcribin' Barney's famous work on the early Jimmy Smith recordings.

And I remember a time that if you couldn't play Kessel's version of All Blues, you couldn't get a gig...


--Mac
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 01:58 AM
Mac:

Ahh, Maybe you are thinking of Kenny Burrell? I could be wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ipftv39YU

Brad
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 02:14 AM
YES. Sorry.


'Nuther senior moment...
Posted By: Gary Curran Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:32 AM
Kenny Burrell, Barney Kessel, Charlie Byrd, Mundell Lowe...all greats.

Gary
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:42 AM
Duh, what are we talkin' about again?
Posted By: Howard Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 12:08 PM
On the competition show she sounded great, and like someone who had practiced and learned on her own. Great job. Then on Cry Me a River, she sounded very schooled and polished, very well trained. Best not to think about it too much I guess, just enjoy it.
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 01:42 PM
Quote:

'Nuther senior moment...


They don't get any better, Mac.

Don S.
Posted By: ColoradoGuy Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 02:41 PM
By the way...

Since this tune seems to bring back some memories, does anyone remember who played bass on the Julie London recording?

I vaguely recall reading (years ago) that it was Ray Brown. But then again, maybe I'm just makin' that up.

Jon
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 02:50 PM
Jon:

It was Ray Leatherwood on that Julie London hit track, altho Kessel did many recordings with Ray Brown.

And Mac, don't sweat the "senior moments." More than likely those moments are residuals of hanging with the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" crowd in those smoky days, know what I mean?

Brad
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 03:19 PM
I've only started having these so much since November and the near-death experience followed by a month in hospital.

Seems like certain connections in the brain got rewired or something.

Haven't mailed in my pilot's license yet, but no need to with this economy I ain't flyin' anyway...

what were we talking about?



--Mac
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 03:49 PM
Mac:

Sorry to make a bad (awkward) joke about the Mad Dogs tour.

Look at it this way -- you still have way more synapses than most anyone on this board, AND, the best exercise for any brain, old or new, is still MUSIC.

Be well,
Brad
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:19 PM
I didn't take what you posted that way at all, Brad.

Matter of fact, I thought about it... (grin)


--Mac
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:23 PM
Next song, "Ground control to Major Mac" lol.
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:48 PM
Oh no.

Was I a Major?

Did the bastards promote me?

Where's the pay stub?

Seriously, the other night on a gig, a fellow requested "Fly Me to the Moon".

The guitar player, bass player and drummer were ready to start playing that song.

And I lit off into an improvised intro to "How High the Moon".

Problem is that when something like that happens, my memory association disconnects have no clue as to the problem, none whatsoever.

So we ended up playing "How High the Fly Me to the Moon".

Quite an abrupt keychange there, just go to the five of the target key with the LH and go.

At least I still seem to be able remember <i>those</i> things.

*If you want to get a good idea about waterboarding and whether or not it is torture, wet a handkerchief and place it over your face while listening to us!*



--Mac
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 04:55 PM
Maybe next time do the astronomical compendium. Moon River, Moon over Miami, Moondance, How High the Moon, Fly me to the Moon, Stardust.whoops.
Posted By: John Conley Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 08:28 PM
this sums up the Susan Boyle thing quite nicely..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/22/bregman.boyle/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/22/09 08:55 PM
Kinda an overnight success, eh? I think the audience was fooled by a female singer, who unlike many who highlight their physical attributes, came out in modest dress. She didn't even dance and shake.

Don S.
Posted By: Brallan Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/23/09 04:14 AM
To add one further thing to this meandering "river" thread -- at the risk of causing it to overflow its banks...

I just received the current issue of "Keyboard" Magazine, and Andy LaVerne has a useful little piece on the use of what he calls the "Cry Me a River" riff. Based on the first six notes of the tune, and well-used by many since Bill Evans in the fifties, Andy shows how adaptable this little figure can be over a wide variety of jazz chords.

Brad
Posted By: FirstBassman Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 02:30 AM
Quote:

I don't know much about Joe Cocker, but I am old enough to remember Julie London.






Don, I highly recommend the Mad Dogs and Englishmen album.



One of the greatest live albums of all time.

And, as Mac said, Leon Russell (2 s's and 2 l's) on (Les Paul) guitar.
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 02:46 AM
The Mad Dogs and Englishmen at Woodstock, New English Translation:

With a Little Help From my Fred...


Posted By: DrDUBose Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 03:32 PM
While I don't expect to have a Susan Boyle moment in sharing some songs on the net, I do appreciate any comments and support for some initial postings...

Check out a few songs I arranged with BIAB and posted, and tell me what you think. They're at http://www.myspace.com/drdubosehalflivejazz. Thanks.

Let me know you could get to them, and could hear them, and that when you did hear them, they made you pop. OK?
Posted By: Mac Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 03:33 PM
"page cannot be found"...
Posted By: DrDUBose Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 03:44 PM
thanks for trying. I'll see if the site administrator can figure out if the link is not formatted correctly..... so much for the media super highway!
Posted By: DrDUBose Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 04:26 PM
http://www.myspace.com/drdubosehalflivejazz

Without the period at the end...

My bad...
Posted By: Glenn Kolot Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 04:55 PM
Yeah, I remember Julie London - her version made the "Hit Parade" as it was called then, and I seem to recall that it was featured in a movie she starred in - "The Girl Can't Help It"). I was old enough to be paying attention (15) to "older women". It's a nice bluesey number on the piano. The trick is to not rush it.

She was a real good looker too (OK, I know I'm an anachronism for using this term).

Glenn
Posted By: DrDUBose Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 05:17 PM
The guitar tab for the song: (I'm still in the process of checking some of the chord notations as there may be better substitutions in a few places. The tab is faithful to Kessel's playing.)

Cry Me A River (A. Hamilton) -- Julie London Version



Em9 Em7M Am9 Am7M
E||----7----------7--------|----------------------|
B||----8----------8--------|----5--------5--------|
G||----11----10-9-8--------|----5--------5--------|
D||------------------------|----9----8-7-6--------|
A||------------------------|----------------------|
E||------------------------|----------------------|


C11+ B7/5 Em9 Em7/5+
----8-------8--10--8--7--|------------------|-----------------------------|
----8----8--8---------6--|------------------|--------8-------------8------|
----9-------9---------8--|------------------|--------11-------------------|
----8-------8---------7--|------------------|-----9------9-----10-----10--|
----9-------9------------|------------------|--7------------7-------------|
----8-------8------------|------------------|-----------------------------|


Em13 Em7 Am7 D9 D+ G7M G6 F#m7 B7
----------------------------|---------------------|-----------------------|
---------8------------8-----|--5--------5----3----|-------------2----4----|
-------------------7-----7--|--5--------5----3----|--4-----4----2----2----|
-----11-----11--------------|--5--------4----4----|--4--3--2----2----4----|
--7-------------7-----------|-----------5----5----|------------------2----|
----------------------------|--5------------------|--3-----3----2---------|


Bm11 E9- E+ A9 A13 A7 Am7 D9
---------------------|-----------------------|--------------------|
--5--------6----5----|--5---------7--6--5----|--5--------5--------|
--7--------7----5----|--4---------6-----6----|--5--------5--------|
--7--------6----6----|--5---------5-----5----|--5--------4--------|
-----------7----7----|--4--------------------|-----------5--------|
--7------------------|---------5-------------|--5-----------------|


G7M F#m7/5B7 Em9 Em7/5+ Em13 Em7
-----------------7----|----------------------|---------------------|
--3--------10----7----|--8---------8---------|--8---------8--------|
--4--------9-----8----|--11------------------|------------7--------|
--4--------10----7----|--9---------10--------|--11-----------------|
-----------9----------|--7---------7---------|--7---------7--------|
--3-------------------|----------------------|---------------------|


Am7 D11 D9 G7M F#m7 B7 Bm11 E9- E+
---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|
--5--------5---------|-----------2----4----|--5--------6----5----|
--5--------5----5----|--4--------2----2----|--7--------7----5----|
--5--------5----4----|--4--------2----4----|--7--------6----6----|
-----------5----5----|----------------2----|-----------7----7----|
--5------------------|--3--------2---------|--7------------------|


A9 A13 A7 Am7 D11 D9 C C6/9 C13 C7
---------------------|---------------------|-----------3-----------|
--5--------7----5----|--5--------5---------|--1--------3----10--8--|
--4--------6----4----|--5--------5----5----|--0--------2----9------|
--5--------5----5----|--5--------5----4----|--2--------2----8------|
--4------------------|-----------5----5----|-----------------------|
---------------------|--5------------------|--3--------------------|


Bm6 Bm6/9Bm6 C#m7/5- F#9+ F#9- Bm6
--7---------9----7----|-----------------------|--7---------7----7----|
--7---------7----7----|--8---------10----8----|--7---------7----7----|
--7---------7----7----|--9---------9-----9----|--7---------7----7----|
--6------6-------6----|--9------9--8-----8----|--6------6-------6----|
----------------------|------------------9----|----------------------|
----------------------|--9--------------------|----------------------|


C#m7/5- F#9+ F#9- Bm6 C#m7/5- F#9+ F#9-
--------------------------|-----------7--------|-----------------------|
-------10--8-----10----8--|--7--------7--------|--8---------10----8----|
-------9---------9--------|--7--------7--------|--9---------9-----9----|
-------9---------8--------|--6--------6--------|--9---------8-----8----|
--------------9-----------|--------------------|---------9--------9----|
--9-----------------------|--7-----------------|--9--------------------|


Bm6 Fm7 F7M/5+ B7 B9+/5+
--7------------------|-----------------10-9-8--|
--7--------------9---|--10--------7----8-------|
--7--------------8---|--9---------8----8-------|
--6--------------10--|--11--------7------------|
-----------------8---|--8---------9------------|
---------------------|-------------------------|


Em9 Em7/5+ Em13 Em7
-----------------------------|----------------------------|
--------8-------------8------|---------8------------8-----|
--------11-------------------|-------------------7-----7--|
-----9------9-----10-----10--|-----11-----11--------------|
--7------------7-------------|--7-------------7-----------|
-----------------------------|----------------------------|


Am7 D9 D+ G7M G6 F#m7 B7 Bm11 E9- E+
---------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|
--5--------5----3----|-------------2----4----|--5---------6----5----|
--5--------5----3----|--4-----4----2----2----|--7---------7----5----|
--5--------4----4----|--4--3--2----2----4----|--7----7----6----6----|
-----------5----5----|------------------2----|------------7----7----|
--5------------------|--3-----3----2---------|--7----7--------------|


A9 A13 A7 Am7 D11 D9 D+ G9/6
-----------------------|---------------------|-----------3--------|
--5---------7--6--5----|--5--------5---------|--3--------3--------|
--4---------6-----6----|--5--------5----5----|--3--------2--------|
--5---------5-----5----|--5--------5----4----|--4--------2--------|
--4--------------------|-----------5----5----|--5-----------------|
---------5-------------|--5------------------|--------------------|


Em9 Em7M Am9 Am7M Am7 D9
----7----------7--------|----------------------||---------------------|
----8----------8--------|----5--------5--------||---5--------5--------|
----11----10-9-8--------|----5--------5--------||*--5--------5--------|
------------------------|----9----8-7-6--------||*--5--------4--------|
------------------------|----------------------||------------5--------|
------------------------|----------------------||---5-----------------|


D11 G9/6
------------3----------||
--5----5----3----------||
--5----5----2---------*||
--5----5----2---------*||
--5----5---------------||
-----------------3-----||
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 08:34 PM
Quote:


I don't know much about Joe Cocker, but I am old enough to remember Julie London.

Don, I highly recommend the Mad Dogs and Englishmen album.




Thanks. I appreciate your input.I did catch a YouTube of "Cry Me a River," by Cocker and the Mad Dogs and what can I say? A lot of talent there, but a little overcooked for my taste? I guess I prefer Ms. London's lazy melodic rendition.

Kinda hard for an old dog to change his ways.

Don S.
Posted By: FirstBassman Re: Susan Boyle -"Cry Me a River" - 04/24/09 10:23 PM
Quote:

The Mad Dogs and Englishmen at Woodstock, New English Translation:

With a Little Help From my Fred...







Yup, Mac, thanks. I've seen that clip. Hilarious. There is also one with Pearl Jam that is priceless.

We're getting way off-topic here but just for historical accuracy - that was The Grease Band backing up Cocker at Woodstock, not Mad Dogs and Englishmen.

MD&E were a group of "all-star" musicians a year later including Leon Russell, Carl Radle and Bobby Keys that formed just for that tour.
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