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I’m having a bit of trouble following this, but I can offer a few ideas to start.
Your problem is not from MME. Choosing the MME driver for BIAB allows you to start other audio programs. I do this all the time.
Your problem is not likely from ASIO4ALL because that’s not really ASIO, just a wrapper for WDM (read MME). However, ASIO4ALL drivers don’t always work with all software.
If you choose ASIO for the audio output of BIAB, then it is highly likely you will have trouble loading another audio program that also uses ASIO. There are exceptions.
So, I’m puzzled by your findings. I recommend you try the MME setting for BIAB and then diagnose other problems as you find them. But this is a good forum to continue the discussion because it starts with your loading BIAB.
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A couple of things here.
First of all, there are two Coyotes and your screen shots show that you have both of them installed on your computer.
Coyote WT is simply a DXi implementation of a wrapper to the Microsoft GS WaveTable MIDI driver that lets you use it as any other DXI (basically, the biggest advantage is that it allows you to render directly to WAV). But for playback purposes, if you select the GS WaveTable synth (and unchecking "Reroute to DXi/VSTi"), the sound would be exactly the same.
Coyote Forte DXi is a different GM2 synth (both the WT and the Forte are provided by Frontier Electronics, a Canadian company). The Forte has its own sounds that are different from the Microsoft synth).
The reason you see the Coyote WT in RealBand is because that is what is selected. You just need to click on the dropdown and select the Forte instead and you should have similar sounds between BIAB and RealBand (I say similar, because there are other factors such as other plugins, tone settings, reverb settings, compression settings, etc.)
So, if you have the Microsoft synth selected (although nothing was selected in your output section, so it probably defaults to the default, which is the Microsoft). So, since both the Coyote WT and the Microsoft synth are the same, it will sound the same whether the "Reroute" box is checked or not. If you have the ForteDXi checked, then you should definitely hear the difference when you check/uncheck the "Reroute" box.
And yes, when you use ASIO, you can only use one application at a time, because ASIO is a one-trick pony. Steinberg does have a multi-ASIO driver you can try (it's free), but results are mixed. But when it does work, it lets you use multiple applications both using ASIO.
MME will allow you to use both applications concurrently, and if you are only using the ForteDXi (or even the CoyoteWT), they should play pretty well (assuming your computer is relatively powerful). But, if you want to do MIDI input via keyboard or some other MIDI device, then you will always get latency when using the MME driver. That's just the way it is.
I presume your Sony Vaio is a laptop, which means it probably has the Realtek sound chip, which kind of limits you to using ASIO4ALL, since there is not an ASIO driver for it. However, one of the things you could try is to update to the latest driver and see if things work better. You can always revert back if you need to.
As far as MIDI channels are concerned, here is what I do to make sure everything is channeled properly. You can set the MIDI channel by right clicking on the track and setting the channel. If nothing is recorded on that track yet, then what you record gets assigned to that channel. However, existing MIDI data will not adjust accordingly. There is a command to on the MIDI menu to rechannel existing data on a track. I then set the old low to 1 and the old high to 16; then set the new low to (for example) channel 4 and the new high to channel 4. Click okay and all the notes on the track will be on the same channel.
Don't know if any of this helps.
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