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Ive used Hitachi drives. They were fine. I haven’t had that brand in several years though.
I’m more concerned about what Newegg has become. It was always top notch but now it’s like Amazon, using all these third party vendors. My recent Newegg order of motherboard, CPU and RAM came from three different vendors! One ‘forgot’ my order. Another claimed they shipped but their tracking number said it was never shipped. It took five weeks to get all three parts that I should have had in four days. The CPU, while it worked, came in a plain box, not Intel’s normal packaging. Scary.
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Hitachi had a partnership with IBM for many years. IBM designed the controller chips while Hitachi made the hardware. Hitachi is the primary hard drive supplier for my former employer. They subject computer parts to pretty extensive testing and closely monitor failure rates so I'd trust it. I prefer refurbished to new because: 1) refurbished costs less 2) has been more thoroughly tested and 3) more likely to have been "burned in" to get past the high failure rate that happens within the first 72 hours of initial start up. An online vendor I've used in the past is +++ Tiger Direct +++ .
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Good suggestion, Tiger Direct. I used to use them before Newegg. I plan to go back next purchase (see rant, above) and see if they do the same nonsense.
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I am a Western Digital guy. 2nd choice is Seagate. They all perform well, until they don't. Hard drive, IMHO, is the one area you don't want to skimp on. The CPU may be the brain of the computer, but the "heart drive", as I once had a customer so perfectly call it, is what sends that brain all the thoughts to process.
Western Digital is also great if there does happen to be a problem.
And again, IMHO, I would never buy a refurbished hard drive. Remember, it failed once already. If the platter was bad, they'd throw it away. If it was the controller, they slap a new one in without doing much in the way of checking why the controller went out. But as always, not my money, not my computer, just my opinion. I prefer 10,000 RPM drives anyway.
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I prefer refurbished to new because: 1) refurbished costs less 2) has been more thoroughly tested and 3) more likely to have been "burned in" to get past the high failure rate that happens within the first 72 hours of initial start up. ^^^This ...and New Egg usually warranties stuff the same for refurbs as it does for new equipment.
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Thanx all for your responses.
Matt, I didn't know that about Newegg so thanx for that info. I haven't purchased anything from them in years. I've used Tiger Direct many times though. Based on my purchases Tiger Direct has not gone the Newegg route.
Eddie, I have a 1TB Western Digital black drive as my C drive in my music computer.
I could not find out via a web surf if Hitachi HDs are still made. That based on all of your info I think I will pass on this deal and at a later date buy 2 WD black drives.
Thanx again for your time and responses.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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In no way a criticism or a directive, but my policy would be to never use a refurbished drive.
If the drive fails while under warranty, they replace the drive. How much does it cost to replace your data?
Everyone will have a turn at one or more drive failures in their computing lifetime. I wouldn't want to be in a hurry to be at the head of the queue.
New data storage has never been cheaper. But, as they say: YMMV (and that's OK too).
My 2 cents.
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Mario, there are some computer parts I might buy refurbished, but as Trevor says, hard drives are not one of them.
For anyone reading, I should point out about NewEgg that the fine print does say that the products I purchased would be from third parties. I went back to confirm that. It is this practice I don't like, not NewEgg itself IF you can buy and ship directly from NewEgg. Nevertheless, I never had a bad experience from Tiger Direct so I think I'll give them a try. And yes, I did share my surprised dissatisfaction with NewEgg.
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I fear that these shippers will be using 3rd parties more often in the future. Seems to be the thing.
As far as Amazon and New Egg, you usually have a choice in your searches to pick the main company-only results. I usually stick with those and avoid 3rd parties if I can.
Luckily I haven't had an issue like Matt's though. That sounds awful.
Good shopping folks!
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I’ll be much more careful in the future. I was fooled by Newegg’s past excellent record.
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