Are you posting your BIAB songs on other music sites? Selling CD's online? Playing live using BIAB generated tracks? Promoting your own music or band on your own website or FB?
If so, then you have a great opportunity to promote PG Music, and introduce new musicians to the program. Yeah, I know it's tempting to say that you played everything yourself; but did you really play the pedal steel, killer guitar solo and the cello on that last tune?
In the future, we will be crediting BIAB on every song we publish, pitch or post on outside sites. We've also put a direct link to PG on our band website (http://www.90dbband.com/Page1.html). It's the least we can do to repay Dr. G for his innovation and generosity.
New users translate into revenue that could breathe new life into the company and could also be used to address all of the changes on the various Wish Lists.
Great idea, Bob. I've become lax in crediting PG Music although I do promote the software aggressively one on one. I told several big artists about the program but don't know if they've ever purchased it yet.
Both Nina Gerber and Thom Bresh, after praising my tunes, said: "Oh yeah, that's a computer program!" and quickly softened or retracted the praise. It's a mixed bag, tell or don't tell. Nina was embarrassed, after complementing my guitar work, to find out later, "...it was ONLY a computer program!"
I will add a credit to my SoundClick; Sound Cloud; and Motagator sites/tracks today.
PG Music is well publicized by Danny Campo and Josie Cooper, the unofficial ambassadors of PG Music. I can assure that BIAB will be promoted vigorously during my upcoming live streaming show on March 13th.
It has a different purpose than promotion of the software.
It doesn't say ANYTHING to me, an enthusiastic owner and user. If an uninformed eye should see that particular logo, it would raise more questions than answers. It doesn't sell the product. That's not it's intended purpose. The hood ornament doesn't sell cars, merely identifies them after the sale.
I plan a tagline similar to this:
"This music was created using Band In A Box software by www.pgmusic.com" or some-such". The listener can then find/buy the software. QED.
I tout BIAB and PG Music nearly every live show I do on Street Jelly if that counts. I know for a fact a few others have purchased since I have been doing my ads, so I kind of feel a little/sort of like I am selling the koolaid. LOL
I tout BIAB and PG Music nearly every live show I do on Street Jelly if that counts. I know for a fact a few others have purchased since I have been doing my ads, so I kind of feel a little/sort of like I am selling the koolaid. LOL
Yes Bob, get marketing off of their backsides. :>
Later,
I know that you promote BIAB, Danny. That's great.
I was mostly talking to the people here who call themselves songwriters/recording artists/producers/recording engineers etc., who "release" albums, and post songs all over the net. Some have websites where the other software they use is referenced, but not BIAB.
Some may think it's uncool to let people know they use the program. Some just want all the credit.
I just think that if more people plugged BIAB, it would bring new business to the company. For everything PG has done for these "songwriters/recording artists/producers/recording engineers", the least they could do would be to give credit where it's due.
With 203 Views and 5 responses on this thread, I guess it's too much to ask. Pity.
Bob, when appropriate I mention BiaB on Sonar, Kara-Moon and Soundcloud sites. I have helped BiaB newbes on both Sonar and Kara-Moon. I don't know if this has helped PGMusic's bottom line but I try to spread the word about BiaB.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up. Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Bob, when appropriate I mention BiaB on Sonar, Kara-Moon and Soundcloud sites. I have helped BiaB newbes on both Sonar and Kara-Moon. I don't know if this has helped PGMusic's bottom line but I try to spread the word about BiaB.
I think that every little bit helps, Mario. Thanks.
Although we may all love biab a lot of people don't.
I thought I was doing someone a favour one time by mentioning it on a music related forum, and the response was,
" I want to have the energy of my friends play on my music" This person was well aware of biab as well, but the program simply did not appeal to him/her.
I soon shut up about biab.
To be honest if I do post a song say on youtube I want people to listen to my song (most won't be too concerned about the backing tracks) I don't feel I need to credit biab for the backing just like if it was a Yamaha keyboard backing I wouldn't feel the need to credit Yamaha.
I do feel though that if a complete instrumental song is done in biab, no singing, even though pGmusic gives you the copyright and rights, its just not fair to claim that its your music, as most people listening to it, will think that you played a lot on it, different for a song as you are making a large input to it.
At the same time I am very enthusiastic about the program and will gladly tell a lot of people about it or try to explain what I know (and if they ask about my backing traks I will tell them) I just don't feel the need to tell everyone in print that its biab backing.
Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use
The few times I have actually recorded anything created with BiaB, I include the actual performers names with the material, such as Guitar: Oliver Gannon etc
This way I feel I am showing some recognition to the other Real Musicians who contributed to my song, just the way any artist includes a lineup of the contributing musicians in an album sleeve etc.
Certainly many of the artists who created the real tracks and real drums applied their own energy. Maybe the other poster did not realize that Real Tracks are energetic recordings made by Real Muso's?
My 2 cents anyway
Thanks for sharing the view of the other poster(s). Like you, I think they are not extremely accurate comments
Best Trevor
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
The few times I have actually recorded anything created with BiaB, I include the actual performers names with the material, such as Guitar: Oliver Gannon etc
This way I feel I am showing some recognition to the other Real Musicians who contributed to my song, just the way any artist includes a lineup of the contributing musicians in an album sleeve etc.
Certainly many of the artists who created the real tracks and real drums applied their own energy. Maybe the other poster did not realize that Real Tracks are energetic recordings made by Real Muso's?
My 2 cents anyway
Thanks for sharing the view of the other poster(s). Like you, I think they are not extremely accurate comments
Best Trevor
Good points Trevor, to be honest if I had used Brent Mason realtracks on my song it would be good to include that in credits, but you know I would be a little nervous in doing so.
What if someone listening who knew Brents playing said "God he sounds like s**t in that recording" probably due to the fact that I picked the wrong samples of realtracks or God forbid he might hear it himself, I'm not so sure he would be impressed with me crediting him....lol
I think what we all can take away from this discussion is, if you want to let the world know that you are using biab well that fine, or if you would rather not mention biab .... well that's ok too, unless someone asks you of course, then you can start to sing its praises.
Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use
Music written by: Me Lyrics written by: Me Copyright by: Me Arranged by: Me Produced by: Me Recorded by: Me Mixed by: Me Mastered by: Me Rhythm Guitar: Me Lead Guitar: Me Bass Guitar: Me Drums: Me B3 Organ: Me Violin: Me Pedal Steel: Me String Quartet: Me Lead Vocal: Me Background Vocals: Me
I do believe that one should give credit where it's due.
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Some just want all the credit. 
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