Hi,
I`m not a Midi person, so here`s my question:
* I downloaded a free MIDI file from the internet and opened it with BIAB. All the Instruments are only on the Melody track, but the different instruments are triggered properly (I hear a guitar, drums ect with the correct sounds). How can that be? And most of all, how can I change that, so I have the several instuments appear on their according track to further edit them.

I need this urgently.
Thank you so much!
Sandra

You can't in BIAB but you can in RB BUT in BIAB if you press the green SEQ button you may be able to do what you need.IN MIDI there are 16 channels. Each instrument gets assigned a channel. The synth plays the sounds according to the channel.

Ok, got you (I do actually know a little bit about MIDI, but not that much).
When I open the Piano roll, I can select the channels and see what each instrument is playing, BUT, the are som ehow all assigned to the MElody track.

I want the Pinao to appear on the piano track, the Bass on the bass track, etc. How can I do that, without having to copy all of the channels one by ones?

You can't. Just the way BIAB works.

Silvertones is right Sandra...open the midi file in RB...it's probably a type 0 midi file. When you open it in RB, it will ask you if you want to assign each instrument to a separate track. Answer, yes and you can see and change each instrument. Here's a brief summary of the two types of midi files:


"There are two variations of the Standard MIDI File format, called Type 0 and Type 1. Both variations contain the same data, but the arrangement of the data within the file is different. Type 0 is a single track of data; Type 1 is multi-track. Many of the popular sequencing software packages available can import and export either type of file.

In the Type 0 Standard MIDI File, all data is saved to a single track without regard to its MIDI channel reference. The file plays normally, but accessing the individual components is a bit more difficult. If editing is needed, the user can open the Standard MIDI File in the application of choice and copy/paste individual channels of information manually as needed.

A Type 1 Standard MIDI File outputs a separate track for each MIDI channel in the original sequence. This format greatly simplifies editing once the sequence has been transferred from one sequencer to another."

Contrary to the answers you got so far you definately can do this in BiaB.

Press the green Seq button and select Melody track.

Click the elipsis button beside the track you want (say the bass) to move and select move to soloist track. It will ask if you want to make the soloist track multi channel. It doesn't really matter at this point so click yes.

Now go to the Notation|Event Editor and make sure you are editing the soloist track.

Using the event filters remove the patch changes and other superfluous commands such as chorus and pan.

Next use the Edit|Copy/Move Tracks command and move the Soloist to the Bass Track. Note: use move, not copy, so you don't leave midi on the soloist. The Move Tracks command will freeze the Bass track so that it won't be re-generated when you press play.

Finally set the Bass track patch using the standard radio button/drop down or GM button.

Repeat on any other tracks you want.

Now remember if you unfreeze the tracks you moved in the future you will lose the midi info to what BiaB generates based on the style so be careful.

In addition I have found the most success if you leave some tracks, usually the rhythm instruments, to BiaB. This way the song won't sound too structured if you are using it for accompaniment.

Thanks, pwarren, you saved me from having to say all that, plus you outlined it better than I could have done.


--Mac

Wow, this is excellent pwarren, thank you so much. I will try it immediately!

Sandra

Yea thanks.I wasn't aware of that. I gave it a try and works fine but I couldn't see any real benefit of doing this as opposed to just using the SEQ button on the melody track. Seems like a lot of work. Unlighten me so I'll know as well.

wow,
I learn something new every day on this forum.

Thanks!

One additional teensy tip: If you loaded that midi file via File=>Open Midi File.., the current style will be disabled. If it's disabled after you transfer the bass channel, for example, to the bass track, the track won't sound. So at the end of the above procedure, make sure the style is enabled. (Support is considering making this automatic.)

Also, note that while it might be helpful to edit the data on the Soloist track, it's not technically necessary to do so. Data can be moved/copied directly from Melody to the target track.

HTH -Ron

Hey Pwarren, that's a interesting approach...didn't know that...I'll give it a try in BIAB...thanks.

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Wow, this is excellent pwarren, thank you so much. I will try it immediately!

Sandra

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You're very welcome. I've been creating all kinds of good covers to play along with using this new feature. It makes turning midi int BiaB so much easier.