I am back to using BIAB again after a long illness and tried to review various RealTrack Demo folders using the Juke Box and found that I was unable to add Solos to the Styles. The first Style in the set was OK but when the next was loaded, the Soloist was changed, but the actual style did not load properly with the result that only the Solo was played.
Has anyone else had this problem???
Lyn:
I've tried to re-create your problem but we made need more detailed information from you as to the exact steps you are taking.
It seems like the Jukebox function works in any of the RealTrack Demo folders but only if you do a "pure" sequence of songs. That is, if you just navigate to the folder you want to try, then hit the Jukebox button, it will play the songs one after the other.
However, if you STOP the Jukebox to (say) add a Soloist RealTrack, you can't get the Jukebox to "resume" playing, even if you click on the "Next" arrow to the right of the Jukebox icon. In fact, I can't even get it to continue if I merely STOP a song, and then try to advance to the next one. It WILL advance to the next song with that button, if you click on it while a song is playing.
Perhaps that's how the Jukebox function is designed: to just play the songs within a folder.
If, as you stated, you are using the Jukebox to just REVIEW songs, it may be better to just do your review using the songs the way they are. Then if you find one you like, you can stop the Jukebox funtion, add a soloist and see if that meets your requirements.
I may be missing something here, so hopefully someone who is more familiar with the Jukebox will chime in.
Good luck!
LLOYD S
If you look at the display for the Jukebox you will see the option to add a solo - actually a Midi Solo and does not include RealtTracks. Why not????.
I find that the Jukebox does operate as you have stated, but if you check the Solo you will see the Solo selection Panel open with a selection already made - I have merely confirmed the selection. Now start the Jukebox and the first Style will play properly, but the following Styles load with the new Solo selected. Unfortunately, only the new Solo plays with no other instruments.
It is a long time since I used this feature, but I am sure it did work correctly at one time
Lloyds, will you please check this again, I do not want to inform PGM Support without reason.
LynB
Lyn:
OK, I see what you're after now.
I checked the Help file for "Jukebox" and found this:
"Generate Solos: Set this option to "On" to permit the Soloist to play a solo over all the songs selected for Jukebox Playback."
Rather than using an existing folder of BIAB Demo songs, (too long for testing purposes), I just created 3 short, 8-bar songs, all with the same style, and put them into a new Jukebox Test folder.
1. Clicked on the Play Jukebox icon and enabled the Generate Solos box
2. Ensured that the Directory was set to the correct path for my new Test folder
3. Clicked on the PLAY JUKE BOX button which opens the Select Soloist window
4. Selected number 1 Bebop Saxaphone, left all other defaults, clicked OK
5. BIAB played all 3 songs (Test 01, Test 02, and Test 03) in my Test folder WITH the saxaphone soloist
6. It kept playing all 3 songs likewise so I must have a "continuous" or "loop" function set somewhere (checked - "Loop Jukebox at end" is enabled")
So far, so good.
- left the style for Test 01 set to ZZJAZZ
- set the style for Test 02 to ZZJAZZ2 - (it wouldn't "set" from the StylePicker window. I had to use the Open Style From Disc function). Saved the song.
- set the style for Test 03 to ZZOLCTRY - (this one worked with the StylePicker - strange!). Saved the song.
Repeated the steps above to play the 3 songs in the Jukebox.
It played the 3 test songs, with the 3 different styles, including ALL the instruments.
So we know that the Jukebox itself, functions as expected.
For your first question regarding "Solo RealTracks", when the Select Soloist window opens (Step 3. above), there's buttons near the top left: Best RealTracks, Fav, All RealTracks and Show All.
I clicked the Best RealTracks and got a list so I picked the first one (361), clicked OK and it takes me back to the Select Soloist window AND it highlights soloist 361, which was already in the list (I assumed it was a RealTrack).
I clicked OK and it generated a sax solo.
HOWEVER
- It only played Test 01 and would NOT play the others in the file
- Although it generated a SAX sols (RealTrack?), the button along the top next to Melody (which would normally be Soloist) says Vibes, in green, and underlined
- Similarly in the Mixer window, below Melody, it says Vibes in yellow and "361: Sax, Tenor, Jazz Sw 140 (Soloist)"
Soooo, I'm not sure if that's a RealTrack or not <grin>.
In any case, it appears all is not well with the Jukebox function, at least the way it handles a soloist.
I was hoping you would give us more specific info as to what songs you were trying from which folders so I could do an apples-to-apples comparison, but maybe this is enough fodder for you to take to PGMusic Support.
Let me know if you want me to try anything else.
Good luck!
LLOYD S
Thanks LLoyds,
I am using RealTacks19 Demo-JazzBallad for my testing and set the Juke-Box to play 8 bars only to speed up testing. I changed the the test folder to Melodist7Demos-Brazilian which is MIDI only and this worked perfectly.
It looks as though the Juke Box has not been upgraded for use with RealTracks.
Can you confirm??????
LynB
OK, I did some more investigating, using your supplied info.
Here's what I get:
- I opened BIAB 2016 (432) with a new, blank song
- Clicked the Jukebox button and set "Generate Solos" to ON
- Set the Preview to be 8 bars
- Navigated to the RealTracks19Demos folder and clicked Play Jukebox
- The "Select Soloist" window opens and a MIDI Soloist is selected (I suppose it's a "random" default as I tried it several times and they were always different). In this case, it selected 56 JPass Guitar.
- Clicked OK to start the Jukebox
- It generated the RealTracks and set the Soloist to be "Guitar_2" (shown in yellow) and then played 8 bars of the first song
- When it advanced to the subsequent songs, AS YOU FOUND OUT, it plays ONLY the soloist, and no other instruments
- I tried the same process, all other settings being the same, only this time in the "Select Soloist" window, I ignored the "default" selection, and instead, scrolled down and selected a RealTrack, 361 Sax Tenor (at least I assume it's a RT as it has a brown background).
- Clicked OK to start the Jukebox
- It again generated the RealTracks for all the instruments EXCEPT the Soloist, which it set to "Trumpet" shown in yellow.
- HOWEVER, when the generation was complete, the Soloist button changed to "Guitar_2" shown in green, and the Mixer window showed (for the Soloist), "Guitar_2" in yellow with the description "361:Sax, Tenor, Jazz Sw 140 (Soloist)"
- It actually played a Sax solo, and not a Guitar
- I tried this a number of times with similar results, sometimes the Jukebox wouldn't "advance" after 8 bars, despite being set to do that
- Sometimes the songs wouldn't Juke at all, it would just stop after the first song
All in all, I can confirm that the Jukebox DOES NOT work well when trying to use a RealTracks Soloist.
Good luck!
LLOYD S
Thanks LLoyds for the comprehensive testing. I will send an Email to Support, although I don't expect a quick reply.
Lyn