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Posted By: countryjoe newbie - 01/21/17 10:24 PM
Hello

I am trying to find out how to post a song.

Does the song have to be country like old style or can I post modern stuff.

I have listened to a lot of the songs posted in fact a lot...

no offence but it seems like a time warp.

just don't want to offend anyone so just checking l.o.l.
Posted By: Noel96 Re: newbie - 01/21/17 10:32 PM
Joe,

The main criteria for posting songs are...

1. The work must either be your own original work or in the public domain. (Copyrighted songs are not permitted unless you hold a licence to record and publish them.)

2. All styles are welcome in the Users Showcase forum, modern or not-so modern.

I look forward to hearing your work.

Regards,
Noel
Posted By: countryjoe Re: newbie - 01/21/17 10:36 PM
Sorry that sounding wrong I am new to forums all be it my first I have been using biab for a while now..i will try what you said mr noel

Many thanks
Posted By: countryjoe Re: newbie - 01/21/17 10:42 PM
Have you done a song I have not heard of all you.

Many thanking you
Posted By: Noel96 Re: newbie - 01/21/17 11:00 PM
Hi Joe,

Yeah, I've written a few songs. If you're interested in hearing one of more of them, they can be found via the "Audios on Soundcloud" link in my signature at the end of this post.

Thanks for asking!

All the best,
Noel

P.S. The songs are all created with BIAB/RB.
Posted By: colly Re: newbie - 01/21/17 11:03 PM
Thanking you I see that now so am a thinking most everyone do that yes
Posted By: colly Re: newbie - 01/21/17 11:10 PM
Now that's interesting to see how you are accepted on the forum when you don't show your country. Discrimination or what. Thanks noel you were the first to respond this forum is so blatantly corrupt I am bowing out ...take care guys you aint changing anything..
take care
and thanks Noel for yor support...
Posted By: colly Re: newbie - 01/21/17 11:17 PM
So Sorry I've had enough ...!!!!
Posted By: colly Re: newbie - 01/21/17 11:29 PM
I have already enjoyed your music ..yes the songs you've posted.

But not everyone ..on here has even got close to my meagre expectations..so I will go ..the thing is the way this forum is going it will bury b.i.a.b. because there is no new input ..coming ..the the software is trying ..but the forum is dying. My Regards Noel you know what I am saying ..absolutely ..unforgivable to new members ..so go on shoot me pg music and then shoot yourself pg sadly you have an expiry date ..and its looming if you don't take action soon ..you need a new clientele .,.,.and your forum needs to accept that ..or else ..you are history ..you need young blood..so go and banish me to the end of your earth.. I don't give a .....
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: newbie - 01/22/17 12:34 AM
countryjoe,

Allow me to express my view: "Welcome to the forums."

You'll find lots of very musically-minded friends and great enthusiasm here.

Trev



Posted By: Matt Finley Re: newbie - 01/22/17 02:23 AM
Countryjoe, welcome. Post whatever style of music you like, keeping in mind the guidelines Noel has mentioned.
Posted By: WendyM Re: newbie - 01/22/17 06:08 AM
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
countryjoe,

Allow me to express my view: "Welcome to the forums."

You'll find lots of very musically-minded friends and great enthusiasm here.

Trev


You are very welcome. I have been.
PS - 'Bye Colly. No idea what that rant is about.
WendyM
Posted By: DEddy Re: newbie - 01/22/17 11:30 AM
Yeah bye Colly.
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: newbie - 01/22/17 03:38 PM
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Joe,

The main criteria for posting songs are...

1. The work must either be your own original work or in the public domain. (Copyrighted songs are not permitted unless you hold a licence to record and publish them.)

2. All styles are welcome in the Users Showcase forum, modern or not-so modern.

I look forward to hearing your work.

Regards,
Noel

I would just add,

3. BIAB or other PG products should be used in the song.
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: newbie - 01/22/17 03:56 PM
Originally Posted By: countryjoe
no offence but it seems like a time warp.

You are not wrong in that observation! smile When I was first considering BIAB a few years ago I was put off by the prominence of what I view as old music...lots of jazz and lots of old country seemed to dominate the showcase. And even today the amount of older styles in the RealStyles is not really what one would expect to see in a modern product (unless it is specifically targetted as a classic genre product). I mean, classic surf tracks for 2017???

One reason for this is probably how many older musicians use BIAB. And while there have been real improvements lately, one look at the GUI tells you this ain't your grandkid's DAW! I have no idea what the demographics for BIAB are overall but I don't think I am wrong to note this forum group tends to be more "seasoned citizens"!

With that all said I would LOVE to hear some modern music show up in the showcase! I believe it is possible to create with BIAB and I bet lots of folks around here would love to hear what you are coming up with!!
Posted By: sixchannel Re: newbie - 01/22/17 04:40 PM
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Originally Posted By: countryjoe
no offence but it seems like a time warp.

I mean, classic surf tracks for 2017???



Oh Yes!! Absolutely, JohnJohnJohn!! Not your thin midi stuff but some great RTs (Brent Mason on guitar for example)in BB now that are Brill to use in Surf. I'm a Brit so this is not my "Birth Music" lol but I'm loving it. Having been to Australia this year and found the Surf Rock scene to be VERY vibrant, these tracks are just what I needed. Horses for courses, I guess.
Cheers
ian
Posted By: rharv Re: newbie - 01/22/17 05:09 PM
JJJ, FWIW I wouldn't use the User Showcase as the measuring stick.
The top 3 posters here on the forum are Mac, myself and Matt. Not likely to find much from any of us in the User Showcase unless it was done 'just for fun'.

An example of a seasoned pro and long time BiaB user:
http://www.itrstudio.com/staff/harvey-gerst
he's a big time guy, as was limey .. but I can't find any sign of limey on the forums now.:(

Many cool things have been done in PGMusic software that can't be shared.
I know I can't post things I've done in RB that I'd love to share, but I can't.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

/Harvey appears to have been online here in the forums recently, so for that I am thankful. Glad he's still around.

I still love the part on his page linked above .. "and many other famous dead people" .. sadly I can relate, though I'll always be 12 years(or so) behind him .
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: newbie - 01/22/17 05:44 PM
Originally Posted By: sixchannel
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Originally Posted By: countryjoe
no offence but it seems like a time warp.

I mean, classic surf tracks for 2017???



Oh Yes!! Absolutely, JohnJohnJohn!! Not your thin midi stuff but some great RTs (Brent Mason on guitar for example)in BB now that are Brill to use in Surf. I'm a Brit so this is not my "Birth Music" lol but I'm loving it. Having been to Australia this year and found the Surf Rock scene to be VERY vibrant, these tracks are just what I needed. Horses for courses, I guess.
Cheers
ian

Oh, I quite agree with you! The surf tracks are outstanding. But the OP was addressing the dated feel to some of the music created with BIAB and I just used that as an example. If you are creating old surf music or retro surf music these probably work beautifully!
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: newbie - 01/22/17 05:51 PM
Originally Posted By: rharv
JJJ, FWIW I wouldn't use the User Showcase as the measuring stick.
The top 3 posters here on the forum are Mac, myself and Matt. Not likely to find much from any of us in the User Showcase unless it was done 'just for fun'.

An example of a seasoned pro and long time BiaB user:
http://www.itrstudio.com/staff/harvey-gerst
he's a big time guy, as was limey .. but I can't find any sign of limey on the forums now.:(

Many cool things have been done in PGMusic software that can't be shared.
I know I can't post things I've done in RB that I'd love to share, but I can't.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

/Harvey appears to have been online here in the forums recently, so for that I am thankful. Glad he's still around.

I still love the part on his page linked above .. "and many other famous dead people" .. sadly I can relate, though I'll always be 12 years(or so) behind him .

Yeah I was kinda responding to the OP's assessment after he looked at the showcase. I understand why some folks do not post their work here but it would sure be great to hear some modern music that was created with BIAB! I can see it is quite easy to build a backing track for a 70s era rock song or a classic bluegrass tune...BIAB just totally excels at this! But more modern music does not seem to be so easy with BIAB.

I looked at the Harvey Gerst website you linked but found no mention of BIAB or anything like that...it seemed like a strictly traditional small recording studio.
Posted By: PeterGannon Re: newbie - 01/22/17 07:02 PM
))) But more modern music does not seem to be so easy with BIAB

It isn't clear from your posts if you've tried to make "modern music" with BIAB or not. There are lots of styles of modern music, so you'd need to let us know what specific style and artist you are talking about. BIAB has hip hop, soul, techno, dubstep, as well as the timeless styles like pop ballad that are also modern. But I'm guessing you have something different in mind.
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: newbie - 01/22/17 08:53 PM
Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
))) But more modern music does not seem to be so easy with BIAB

It isn't clear from your posts if you've tried to make "modern music" with BIAB or not. There are lots of styles of modern music, so you'd need to let us know what specific style and artist you are talking about. BIAB has hip hop, soul, techno, dubstep, as well as the timeless styles like pop ballad that are also modern. But I'm guessing you have something different in mind.

Peter, that is a difficult question to answer. And maybe it will not be possible for BIAB to do modern music (whatever that is) because the modern music is heavily produced and prone to maybe not following past formulas as much? I do not have an answer for you. But I know I listen to a lot of recent music that is called Americana and have not yet found styles in BIAB to create those styles. Yet I know that if I want to create a surf track or a bluegrass track BIAB will excel at that task.

I will give this more thought and see if I can come up with more specific inputs. Thanks for listening.
Posted By: PeterGannon Re: newbie - 01/22/17 09:00 PM
)) But I know I listen to a lot of recent music that is called Americana and have not yet found styles in BIAB to create those styles.

We have many and all kinds of Americana styles. Plenty of examples in the user showcase too. But we don't have an easy way to list them all. So we could make a user category called Americana that would find them all. Thanks for the suggestion.

This of course assumes that we're both using the Americana style definition in Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americana

"Americana, as defined by the Americana Music Association (AMA), is "contemporary music that incorporates elements of various American roots music styles, including country, roots-rock, folk, bluegrass, R&B and blues, resulting in a distinctive roots-oriented sound that lives in a world apart from the pure forms of the genres upon which it may draw. While acoustic instruments are often present and vital, Americana also often uses a full electric band"
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