Upgrading from 2009 version to 2009.5
If you are an existing 2009 Band-in-a-Box customer, here is a summary of your options available for getting the 2009.5 upgrade, and none/some or all of the 101 new RealTracks.
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1. (free) You can upgrade your 2009 version to 2009.5 version free... link here
Band-in-a-Box 2009.5 update (from 2009 version)
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#284RealBand 2009.5 update (from 2009 version)
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_realband.htm#2009_4 -- if you want to get some or all of the new 101 RealTracks
The 101 RealTracks are split into 3 groups (called RealPaks), which are named Jazz 2, Country 2, Rock 2
2. $59 (DVD) you can buy a RealPAK for your preferred genre (Jazz 2, Country 2, or Rock 2). Those come on DVD. You install them to your existing Band-in-a-Box installation, either on you hard drive, or the external USB hard drive. These also include the 2009.5 upgrade from 2009. To order/ more info at
http://www.pgmusic.com/realpaks.htm3. $99 (DVD) you can buy all 3 of the RealPAKS - all 101 new Realtracks on DVD's. (Jazz 2, Country 2, AND Rock 2). Those come on DVD. You install them to your existing Band-in-a-Box installation, either on you hard drive, or the external USB hard drive. These also include the 2009.5 upgrade from 2009. To order/ more info at
http://www.pgmusic.com/winmacpluspak.htm4. $149 (UltraPlus Hard Drive - 160GB). If you already have 2009 UltraPAK or 2009 Everything PAK, on DVD or Hard drive, you qualify for the UltraPlus Hard drive at $149. That is a plug n play ready 160GB hard drive with "the works" - all the new RealTracks (and all the old ones too), as well as a full installation of BB and all the styles.
To order/ more info at
http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm or phone 1-888-PG-MUSIC
5. $199 (AudioPhile UltraPlus Hard Drive - 1 TB) If you already have an audiophile version, you can update that by getting the new 1TB HD that is loaded with BB, and all the RealTracks, styles etc.
To order/ more info at
http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm or phone 1-888-PG-MUSIC
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These products can be ordered (and downloaded immediately while you wait for the hard copy to come) here...
http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm
Peter,
Can you tell me which sets are in each of the realpaks?
i.e. Is blues in Jazz or Rock
Rock, ------- Sets 40 to 49, ------- Rock 2 RealPak $59 --- (39 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums)
Jazz, -------Sets 50 to 59, ------- Jazz 2 RealPak $59 --- (29 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums)
Country -------Sets 60 to 66, ------- Country 2 RealPak $59 --- (33 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums)
HTH
If I'm just doing the free update, does BIAB 2009.5 update include the Real Band 2009.5 update, or are they to be updated individually?
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If I'm just doing the free update, does BIAB 2009.5 update include the Real Band 2009.5 update, or are they to be updated individually?
They are updated indiviudally from two separate downloads.
BB for Windows 2009.5 update download
RealBand update is here
PowerTracks 12 also has a recent update located here
--Mac
There's no such thing as a free lunch BUT there are free programme updates for BIAB, RB and PTPA. Of course, you won't get the RT updates for free
Hi Peter,
I want to do the $199 'audiophile to audiophile' hdd upgrade. I am following the link from your post but it is just taking me to the standard sales page which does not seem to contain this specific offer. Am I missing something or is the offer not yet on the website?
Many thanks
regards, Aubrey
Aubrey, in another post, Peter said it would take another day or two before this was available on the website.
I own the 2009 ULTRA on usb hard drive (non audiophile) and was considering upgrading to 2009.5 audiophile, seems like a good time to do it...
I contacted support and was told the cost would be 529 USD.....seems really expensive, is that correct.
Seems like a good time for PG to offer customers an incentive to go from non audiophile to audiophile...
cheers
Wiz
I too was considering upgrading but it’s too expensive for me.
I realise that its PG's software and they can charge what they like, as it’s a great product.
But in these recession days I think most companies would have their eye on the ball and would consider selling more at a reasonable price than less at an expensive price.
Just my personal opinion.
Will wait for December to see if there is a better deal around then.
Musiclover
Hi Wiz, The way I read it from Peter's original post is that you are up for $149 but it is not yet shown on the ordering sheet. And maybe the sales staff you spoke to have not been briefed yet.
I am still waiting for a button to order the Audiophile version on a hard drive. I had my credit card ready to do the deal this morning but no button yet, so I'll wait another day. PG Music will have to hope I don't spend all my pocket money before they get their act together.
Hi Graham,
The button has arrived, and can be found at
http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm ($199 audiophile to audiophile update)
Peter
Thanks Peter. Order placed, although there were a couple of mouthpieces at Hickeys that were starting to look pretty good.
Hi ya all,
I was looking at the upgrade options and I am slightly confused about the "audiophile" hard drive.
1 Am I right in thinking that the "audiophile" is just a normal hard drive that has the realtracks and realdrums in a different file format that makes the sound clearer for the more discerning musician? (Other than the greater hard drive space)
2 If one was to get the normal non "audiophile" from PG Music would it take a long long time to convert all the realtracks and realdrums to the audiophile format?
Many thanks
Paddy
I'm not sure from taking your two questions together that you fully understand the difference, so let's try to be very clear, and if I'm mistaken, I apologize in advance.
As I understand it, there are three ways to use Real Tracks:
1) WMA files that are converted on the fly to WAV equivalent. This means the sound of the WAV file generated temporarily is the same as the WMA compressed file. This is the default way that Real Tracks operate.
2) Convert the WMA files in a folder to WAV. Same quality as #1. The benefit is that your Real Tracks will generate a bit faster. The drawback is that the files take up about 10 times as much space.
3) The Audiophile version, WAV files that were never compressed (like the WMA files were), and therefore load fast, sound best, but take up more space like in #2.
So, to your question #1, as far as I know, there is no such thing as audiophile Real Drums, just Real Tracks, and the rest of your question is True.
Your question #2 implies that you can convert non-audiophile to audiophile, and this is False. Perhaps you were just asking how long it takes to uncompress WMA files into the sound-equivalent WAV files? I don't know that answer, because I use the audiophile version and it was a long time ago I did the uncompress operation (before I bought the audiophile version), but I recall it took some serious time to finish.
The audiophile edition is the original WAV files for RealDrums and RealTracks. The standard format is WMA (Windows Media) compressed files (which can be converted to WAV, but still incurs the hit of the lossy compression).
The WAV file sound of the Audiophile edition is as close to the original as you will get, but it is at the cost of many times the disk space. With the audiophile edition, since you don't have to convert the WMAs when generating the song, the performance is also somewhat faster. Also, you don't end up essentially double compressing the files when you ultimately convert your mixed song to WMA or MP3 (a compressed file that's compressed again loses a lot more fidelity). Most people probably wouldn't notice (since everyone listens to MP3s these days anyway), so it's up to you. The audiophile format will give you the best sound at the expense of a lot of hard disk storage.
Thanks Matt and john for your quick replies, which has cleared things up for me.
Thanks again,
Paddy
sorry , but I am having trouble figuring out ..
so, I own ultra pak 2009 on USB hard drive...
how much is it for me to upgrade to 2009.5 audiophile
cheers
Wiz
Never mind, i just ordered the normal updaate......8)
Wiz
Citaat:
I own the 2009 ULTRA on usb hard drive (non audiophile) and was considering upgrading to 2009.5 audiophile, seems like a good time to do it...
I contacted support and was told the cost would be 529 USD.....seems really expensive, is that correct.
Seems like a good time for PG to offer customers an incentive to go from non audiophile to audiophile...
cheers
Wiz
I own BiaB 2009 everything PAK and had the same question mailed to the salespeople. Though the answer was very quickly returned (great service !), it did find it very strange to see the price I had to pay for the upgrade (US$ 529).
I am most willing to pay for upgrades. And the upgrade to 2009.5 with the new RT's is priced fairly. I also don't mind to pay an additional price for the upgrade from WMA files to the exact same files in WAV.
But $440 seems a bit ridiculous to me! ($529(upgrade 2008 to audiophile)-$99 (upgrade summerpak) = $440 (for upgrading WMA to WAV!)
I would very much like to see a (fairly priced) upgrade option from WMA to WAV.
Still: BiaB is a fantastic and powerfull piece of software, second to none!
By the way: can anyone point me to the differences between SummerplusPAK and the Ultraplus PAK? The only difference to me seems to be the HDD. (that goes for people who allready have the EverythingPAK that is....)
Not shipping for 3-5 business days is that right? Not even for downloads?
Electronic Delivery (Downloads) have always been available immediately at purchase if you remember to check that option when you order.
--Mac
I just upgraded to 2990.5 and the real tracks. My problem is when I closed BIAB I got a little box that popped up in the lower right corner telling me I have an External exception C000001D at: 05A777E8 and I can't get rid of it! Everytime I click either on OK or the X to close it it just duplicates itself and after clicking on it 4 times the duplicated box goes but I still have the original box. How do I get rid of this? I re-opened BIAB and everything seems to work properly, I just can't get rid of that box.
CTRL + ALT + DEL should show the window and you can close it there. I would also recommend a re-boot and a 'restore to factory settings'.
2990.5?? Are you time-travelling? Does BIAB still exist that far in the future? Is the world still here?
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CTRL + ALT + DEL should show the window and you can close it there. I would also recommend a re-boot and a 'restore to factory settings'.
2990.5?? Are you time-travelling? Does BIAB still exist that far in the future? Is the world still here?
Didn't you get the email Sam? BIAB 2991 will be released at Christmas.....we're Beta testing it now.
I just bought the 2009.5 upgrade on usb drive. but couldn't resist the urge to start downloading it. Unfortunately, I am having trouble with two of the files... realtracks set 61 (ballads) and 65 (alt country) won't download (for me) for some reason.
61 just times out, won't even get to the download dialog... and 65 goes to the DL dialog, then stays at zero progress forever.
I haven't gotten to all of the downloads yet, as I'm skipping around.. so there may be others that don't DL as well... but thought I should post here in case others have had the same problem with 61 and 65
Try them again at a later time, maybe even the next day.
If the problem persists, contact PGMusic Sales directly about it.
--Mac
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Try them again at a later time, maybe even the next day.
If the problem persists, contact PGMusic Sales directly about it.
--Mac
yeah, my first thought was: "it's the weekend and a new version has just been released, the file server is probably blitzed..." But I've been trying all day, and all other files have loaded the first time, while these two have failed in exactly the same way multiple times over the past 12 hours.
As you suggest, I'll email sales about it if they don't DL tomorrow.
Hello Pat,
If you're still having trouble, I suggest clearing your browser cache / temporary internet files, then trying the download again.
Besides the new Real Tracks, what is actually "new" or "fixed" in Version point-five from 2009?
I understand that upgrade is free, but I'm curious and can't find it clearly listed on the website.
- Thanks.
All the New features are listed on the same page where the free update is located.
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Just placed my order for my 2009 Summer PlusPAK Hard Drive. Despite the current challenges we all face, I can think of no more worthwhile discretionary expense than supporting this wonderful tool, which has allowed me to accomplish far more than my very limited abilities would otherwise permit, and to have great fun, learn, and derive enormous satisfaction in the process. Thank you.
>>> Besides the new Real Tracks, what is actually "new" or "fixed" in Version point-five from 2009?
I understand that upgrade is free, but I'm curious and can't find it clearly listed on the website.
FirstBassman,
Here are the new features in 2009.5 compared to 2009 (there are videos here, and a text listing)
http://www.pgmusic.com/win.htmHere are the various fixes present in 2009.5
http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#287
I missed the cross-platform duo buy. I have a pc, but also a Mac. Getting Biab for both platforms would mean buying both versions seperately?
Cheers
Superbron
I have the BIAB 2009.5 UltraPAK Plus Audiophile Edition on the 1 TB hard drive. I've been upgrading for a few years, getting a new external hard drive sent for each upgrade.
For future upgrades, it would save us some money if we could send back our current BIAB hard drive, have PG Music load it up with the upgrade version, and send it back. Some thoughts:
* It was $199 to upgrade from version 2009.
* 1 TB hard drives cost between $80 and $100.
* External drive enclosures are $20-$50
* I'd rather pay $80 or $100 for an upgrade than $200.
* I'm not a hard disk collector. And I don't need more external drive enclosures laying around. My computer desk is starting to look like the Natural History of BIAB Hard Drive Museum.
How about it, PG Music? Give us the *option* to ship back our bare BIAB hard drive for upgrades. Until, of course, the size of BIAB files goes over 1 TB, in which case give us the option of sending in a larger hard drive for the upgrade. There is no need to send a hard drive enclosure. Most of us know how to put a drive in a PC or an external case, if needed. For those folks who'd rather not mess with it, they can continue with the upgrade procedure as it stands.
Regards,
Doug