I just wanna say publicly how much I appreciate forum user Pipeline!

Pipeline has been such a positive force here, not only raising great questions to improve the products but in providing actual solutions to users like me.

I had a great lead guitar section in a song that I did not want to lose but I had not used the DI option when generating the track. No one here knew of any solution but Pipeline stepped in and gave me a hack that allowed me to get every bit of the lead part as DI!

And that is just one example! This is a user who puts in quite a lot of effort to offer up not just wishlist items but actual solutions that can provide the template for the ultimate solutions.

So, THANK YOU Pipeline for all of your contributions to this forum! You make the forum a better place and your efforts are making the products better as well!

I wholeheartedly agree. Pipeline is most definitely a very valuable asset to these forums!

His knowledge is extraordinary and his use of it involves some of the most flexible and lateral thinking I've ever seen.

I'm glad you mentioned this, John

Yeah, I appreciate Pipeline a lot.

If only he wasn't so dang ornery sometimes.. <grin>

Noel, you are another awesome forum person too! I learn something every time you answer a question for someone! Thanks for all you do and for being such a nice guy too!

There are many fine contributors on this forum and have been so for many years

jazzman

Thanks all !
The only reason I'm here is after finding ReallTracks/Drums when they were first released, Totally Awesome ! I found the software was letting me down many times when creating up the music with artists. After a time doing this I put that on hold to concentrated on trying to get the software improved by pushing things but as I found out it is verrrry sloooooow at happening, though it has come a long way it is very frustrating. But going through all that for years n years has worn me down, from suggesting nicely so many times what needs doing but getting negative responses when it should be plainly recognized, no brainer, and implemented like in other forums: find bugs, suggest features > implemented, that's a pleasure to work with as it flows and is positive creativity !!!!, but here users can see it as an attack rather than constructive criticism and be very protective and defensive with negative responses and this is what I think holds it back from moving to a PRO level, I'm sorry but maybe that's why I loose it at times and snap.

I go out of my way to help users that come here no matter what the problem and there are other user that do the same, but negativity and defensiveness about the software can be a KILLER and put new forum users off like biab lost me a steady gig by jim graves attacking what you think to be a troll won't hurt the troll but it would a real person, that turned out to be a REAL person that has not returned, and I have seen this happen so many times over the years. They need to stop attacking and lift up their consciousness to a higher sensitive level, don't wait till you leave this world or have a heart attack, find yourself looking down on your body then watch your life replay from a higher conscious/peace/love level to work out where we went good and where we went no so good and only then GET IT an learn, do it now.


All I want to do is get back to the music production side full time with some incredible rock solid reliable software to do it with, a Professional cross-platform 64bit software that reflects the REAL as in REAL INSTRUMENTS REAL STUDIO not cartoon graphics coming out of a computer.
I think this will be the final year for me, then I can go home, fingers crossed, music lifts me up !!!! but pushing here year after year and giving out so much has just worn me down. Maybe that's what happened to Mac ?????

Pipeline, I totally feel ya! But things have really improved around here and it is in large part because of people like you that I stick around.

When I first arrived here in 2012 it felt like there was a dominant clique that controlled the conversation and anyone questioning the software or the company or the forum was discouraged even if their ideas were reasonable. But that has improved with actual serious conversations about product improvement taking place now.

And to be fair there are now, and always have been, a lot of really fine people here who make tremendous contributions in answering questions, sharing resources, sharing their expertise and so on. As I complete my 5th year here I just wish I could contribute more but alas I am still a novice BIAB user who only uses the most basic functions of the program before jumping to my DAW to make my songs.

Honestly, without this forum I would never have bought BIAB in the first place. And without this forum I would never have continued using it due to its complexity and marginal documentation.

So, hats off to you and most other forum folk who help us achieve amazing things with this terrific software! I hope you stick around here forever!

So I just went and read through the thread Pipeline mentioned. At first I thought it was an old thread but I see it is quite recent.

There are lots of helpful tips in that thread but many of them are also snarky or downright nasty. Kinda reads like a Mean Girls script.

Repetitive negative comments blaming the poster are totally unhelpful. And then jumping quickly to calling the poster a troll is some seriously bad forum etiquette. Some hateful folks even decided to mock the poster by addressing him as "Jimmy" and "son". I am always amused when some folks call this the most friendly forum; they obviously have not experienced many forums!

But Pipeline, you help make this a better place with kindness and knowledge. So Thanks again!! (and please stay!)

Pipeline

You are correct about users here see it as an attack rather than constructive criticism.

I have read this forum back to god only knows when, in order to find the (how to this and how to that),Rather than post.

I feel sometimes my posts are not received well not all but some.

And while I was reading past posts, I noticed a lot of newbies coming and going and they way they where received or not, some with a real talent for writing and performing some excellent songs.

And it seems if their is no new blood then it becomes stale and stagnant.

I am not complaining in any shape or form, just agreeing on some issues you have raised.

But yes big +1 (and please stay!).

Love your tech inputs even the ones that require 2 or 3 3rd party $$$ add-ons ($60 here and $100 there adds up after a while - just look at U.S.A. Debt)

BUT come on Pipeline WHAT ATTACKS - now whos being unfair!

Initially in his one, and ONLY POST "JIM" gave NO DETAILS whatsoever he basically said "it's broke and I lost a job" - WTFO!

When asked for details he never came back and gave any. So that's when the query (not attacks) about his begin a troll started. But you have to admit in any forum on the web a single post about a product in that products forum that essentially says "it's broke" will get some hackles up on that forum if there are NO supporting DETAILS whatsoever.

He can't be that much of a snowflake? Yes NOW I'm being mean, no wonder restaurant won't let him back, he has no spine.

Minor and FRIENDLY "troll" probing aside WE ALL TOLD HIM in general:


1) WE NEEDED DETAILS

2) if GIGGING "K.I.S.S"

3) if GIGGING - HAVE BACKUPs!

4) IF GIGGING - HAVE A BACKUP PLAN!


We'd have helped had he comeback.

But no we couldn't have gotten his gig back, unless he expected a forum member to make the venue owner a "offer he couldn't refuse?" - I don't do that kind of work anymore )


FYI Yanni (like him or not) gigs with 30+ Korg Kromes (and about HALF are backups)!

https://descargar.one/watch?v=CWrSnMCk72U go to around 2:40


I gigged in the 60's and learned EARLY to buy and bring extra guitar, amp, tubes, fuses, strings, mics, cables, picks, and I WAS dirt POOR ....

Larry

There have been forum users in the last 20 years that have made great contributions only then to believe that they sort of own the forum

When needed PG Music has stepped in to even suspend offending contributors

Will we miss them - I doubt it, as there are many fine and helpful contributors to the forum with vast knowledge

I also use many forums and they all have the same downside of a few agitators/know what's best etc. - but everyone is entitled to their opinion

When I make a recording or play at a gig my first priority is the best sound and arrangement possible and as Larry states - a comprehensive back up plan.

Personally I don't care about "trendy" program presentation just because someone else has it.

Each year I get better results from this magnificent program

We must respect that PG Music is running a business and do most things very well and I am sure they would have considered all suggestions before adopting or not - in fact they have surprised us on many occasions by pulling rabbits out of the hat

To create and enjoy music is a wonderful feeling and so rewarding

jazzman

What did happen to Mac..? He was very knowledgeable and helpful... I liked Mac.

A lot of us miss him.

I really liked Mac - after a few private PM's back and forth, and these were just before he quit posting I found out we were very much alike (tech background, politics, ..) with one exception, he is a music PRO and had real tangible talent. I'm a hack and do it for personal fun and truly suck at it (I'm great in my own mind )


As to what happened there are a few folks here that are/were close to Mac (I am not one), and they know for sure but have never stated publicly what or why.

I seem to remember a post (no names) that alluded to a serious illness but....

Larry

JM sorry if I have offended you in any way, you have dropped enough hints. I will leave now.

Jazzman, I wonder why you made this particular comment in this thread, given the title of the thread, and that it refers to a specific member?

+1, absolutely

I wondered how the wheels fell off of this thread as it was rolling along. Started out as a testimony and peer recognition of Pipeline's contribution. Things continued for a bit as others came on-board and offered their endorsement and congratulations.

All was going well, until... The Award Acceptance Speech!

Jeeze Pipeline, after a obligatory "thanks guys", you immediately proceeded on a rant to drill the forum a new one. Sorry guy, that is how I saw it. Made us all look bad when folks were trying to do a good thing. A little more up-beat would have gone a long way when your peers are recognizing your long and valued contribution.

yes a big Thanks to Pipeline for all the knowledge passed on in these forums. I really enjoy the posts.

yes I miss the posts from Mac too, not to mention Solidrock another poster who seemed to have an in-depth knowledge of the program.

Solidrock totally disappeared from the forums about two years ago, a pity because he/she together with Pipeline would have been a real techie powerhouse team together on here.

Musiclover

Don't forget Noel, John F., and Matt. For many years they along with Mac have been most helpful also with their combined knowledge of BIAB and more recently Videotrack.

Yep goes without saying a big thanks to them too, not to mention your good self.

Musiclover

Well

And then there were none!

What a sad state of affairs, it seems that Pipeline has stopped posting as he said he would in his last post on this thread. 7 days back.

Such a shame as I always found his post helpful and informative. And sometimes downright brilliant like writing installers for things like his new BIAB Gui colouring routine.

I have to say as a relatively new user here only 2 years, for some reason it can seem a bit cold and exclusive on occasion, I feel like the invisible man sometimes.
It seems ok to ask simple question and there are many folks keen to help.
But if you stick your head above the parapet best wear your tin hat.
Mind you this happens on many forums it is often hard to enter the inner core members circle.
Oh well beginning to ramble here, but it is a shame to loose Pipelines valuable input
So I will get back in my box
Best regards to all
Mike

My reward for giving occasional help on the forum is two things: first, I learn more about the program; second, I get to see the people who were helped start helping others. It's been this way since the prior forum software back in the later 1990s.

I do not recall a case where PG Music suspended any long-time poster from the forum, as was mentioned before. Then again, if certain people stopped posting, I don't know how or why I could know the reason.

Pipeline gave us all a jolt, in a good way. I sincerely hope he returns.

My gracious. Don't you go anywhere. Your posts and contributions are useful and valuable too....

I have learned a ton from pipe & others for sure, it is sad to see folks just up & go...but in internet land we all have our reasons for posting - not posting on forums.

The one thing I will say is this forum has mostly been a POSITIVE experience for as long as I have been here, and I appreciated everyone of you that help us "old nubees" out!

Pipeline: love ya, you've given me many helpful / useful suggestions, and patience on your part. THANK YOU.

He's still checking in; maybe we'll hear from him in the future:

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Yes, all is forgiven (not that there was anything to forgive in the first place!)

We would really like to hear from you again Pipeline. (Actually, we need you more than you need us... )

There is nothing to forgive him for that I know of.
He is/has been a very valuable contributor, especially to experienced users (his tips were often not for beginners but rather schooling some of us). He figured out how to 'make things work' and shared his knowledge.
I miss him too.
I learned a lot from him.

That said, I also gladly accept and revere his voluntary contributions and reluctantly accept his choice to take a break. Maybe he got tired of finding ways to make things work.
Hopefully frustration fades and he continues posting some time in the near future. I'd like to see it.
As for the original post; yes he was definitely a Power User. Like I said, he taught me a lot.

Not that he needs any validation, just acknowledging his help.
Miss him.

+1.

I am 100% agree ! +1 Just latest this morning Pipeline helped me out in a PM.. Great guy...

And also those;


PG Music should really paid those guys a free upgrade or something...

FWIW - I think that anyone who shares their expertise with others are forum heroes!

+1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YEG9DgRHhA

YAY !!!!!

I didn't know Arnold is a forum member. How about that! Wait ... What's that you say, it's not really Arnold saying he'll be back but Pipeline saying he will?

Even better! Three cheers for the return of Pipeline.

Wait - I always thought the line was, "All be Bach." All these years I had that wrong? I think we could all live very well by All be Bach.

Good to see Pipeline checking in, Always appreciate the great tech help from her/him.

Thanks again.

Super +1 (many times).

Although, with Arnold being Austrian, I figure he would instead say, "I'll be hidin'" /"All be Haydn".

I WAS going to comment then decided against it

Thanks everyone for all your kind support !!!!
I had to force myself to have a break from it all as I had total BURN OUT and drain from doing too many things, giving out so much, and especially at that end of year crazy season it was all too much for me !.
It was all just a big misunderstanding anyway, so sorry to all.
I'll be back, after have have a good long break to recharge totally.
Thanks again,
pipeline

Let me be the first to extend a very big Welcome Back!!!

Welcome back, Pipeline.

It's great to read you again

good news... welcome back.