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Posted By: Musicmanicny missing styles - help identfy? - 08/19/18 01:52 PM
Hi all - newish user to BIAB. Very cool software!

I purchased what i believe is everything. The what I am missing section helps says I have everything, but i am missing 88 styles when showing N/A in the style picker. Strangely the preview for these missing styles play.

I have contacted support, but I thought it might worth a message in the forum in case anyone recognizes some of these styles:

25 amplitube style (2011/12). 8 Folk styles named Campfire (2012/12), 3 Nashville Teen beat (2012/05 and 2012/06), 3 Fast Drivin (2012/04, 2012/05, 2012/06)., 5 metronome styles (2014/07). There are a few more, but I thought finding these might be a start in the right direction.

What I have done so far is: complete rebuilt the database. Then I reinstalled everything using the master installer, rebuilt the database again and I ran the cleanup routine.

Thanks all!

Greg
Posted By: Jim Fogle Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/19/18 06:45 PM
Hi Greg,

Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box!

When you state you purchased everything, does that include the Xtra Style PAKs? If you recently purchased Band-in-a-Box then you maybe missing some bonus RealTracks and the styles support the bonus RealTracks.

It will be helpful if you list the names of the missing styles. That will help us associate the styles with various updates, packages and bonus releases.
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/19/18 07:03 PM
Thanks so much for the reply.

I have bought all the xtra style paks.

Here are images of what is missing.

Before rebuilidng and reinstalling, I had no real tracks missing. Now I have a couple.


[img]https://ibb.co/gv5ykz[/img]

[img]https://ibb.co/mTefyK[/img]

[img]https://ibb.co/k4KfyK[/img]

[img]https://ibb.co/gMK2Ce[/img]

Sorry tried to imbed the links. Not sure if that can be done with this forum.

Also I see a couple of these are from Style Pak 5. I redownloaded it, reinstalled it and rebuilt the index but it is still N/A. Odd.
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/20/18 08:14 PM
Hi Greg,

Some of these are from the Registration Bonus Styles, which you can download for free from your account on our website. Just log in, click on My Products, and look for the installer in your list of downloads.

Some of these styles appear to be missing RealTracks. Please open the RealTracks Picker, check the "Show RealTracks that are NA" checkbox, sort the list by the NA column, and see which sets the NA RealTracks are from.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/21/18 12:51 AM
Thanks so much. Found the registration bonus styles and am down to 78 styles not found.

I tried reinstalling the realtracks from what sets are shown 2 are from MST18 and 2 from MST20. And 1 is from the Xtra pak.

I reinstalled the real track sets 16-19 and 20-23, and xtra pak 5 but they are still missing after the rebuild.

Missing RT are M_JZFPLK, M_POPFLT, M_STQRTP, M_STQRTZ, and Humbling.

For the missing RT - the wma files are in the data folder for the preview, but the don't seem to be there.
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/21/18 01:16 AM
I am noticing in the RTs that are N/A - I can load them and it seems like the synth is what is missing in them. The message in the bottom says C:\bb\Soloists\RSynth014.ST2 not found. This means that you do not have the MIDI SUperTracks that is required for this style or solo.

FYI I have supertracks001-020 installed.

When I look in the bb\soloists folder I am indeed missing Rsynth014.ST2 but have 001-013 and 015-016 in that folder.

I don't see any other supertracks installer in my account.
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/21/18 02:20 AM
I just saw how to copy to the clipboard - here are the styles that are missing: **Note I reinstalled Xtra Pak 5 several times, looks like 2 of the styles are missing for some reason.

Name Long Name Date Set#
_ALLISF1 [N/A] Medium Country Ballad w/ Fiddle 2012/04 Misc.
_ALTCAMP [N/A] Amplitube Alt-Country w/ Electric Guitars 2011/12 Misc.
_BALADAP [N/A] Country Ballad w/ Piano 2012/05 Misc.
_BALADE1 [N/A] Country Ballad w/ Electric Guitar 2012/04 Misc.
_BALADFI [N/A] Country Ballad w/ Fiddle 2012/05 Misc.
_BGWLZMD [N/A] Modern Bluegrass Waltz w/ Fiddle 2012/04 Misc.
_BLZRAMP [N/A] Amplitube Blues Rock w/ Electric Guitars 2011/12 Misc.
_BOLERTS [N/A] Bolero w/ Trumpet Solo 2014/07 Misc.
_BOS2SWV [N/A] Jazz Vibes Trio, Bossa To Swing 2010/12 Misc.
_BOSAAMP [N/A] Amplitube Bossa Guitar 'Kitschy' 2011/12 Misc.
_BRSOAM2 [N/A] Amplitube Electric Guitar Solo - Country Workin' 2011/12 Misc.
_BRSOAMP [N/A] Amplitube Electric Guitar Solo - Country Workin' 2 2011/12 Misc.
_CBOOAMP [N/A] Amplitube Country Boogie Electric Guitar 2011/12 Misc.
_CBOOG1E [N/A] Country Boogie w/ Piano 2014/07 Misc.
_CDRIVN1 [N/A] Fast Drivin' w/ Fiddle 2012/04 Misc.
_CDRIVNP [N/A] Fast Drivin' w/ Piano 2012/05 Misc.
_CDRVNPS [N/A] Fast Drivin' w/ Pedal Steel 2012/05 Misc.
_CMPFBH2 [N/A] Campfire, Hank 2012/12 Misc.
_CMPFBH3 [N/A] Campfire, Hank w/ Bass 2012/12 Misc.
_CMPFBHF [N/A] Campfire, Hank Fingerpicked 2012/12 Misc.
_CMPFBHS [N/A] Campfire, Hank Strummed 2012/12 Misc.
_CMPFMDF [N/A] Campfire, Medium Fingerpicking 2012/11 Misc.
_CMPFMF2 [N/A] Campfire, Medium Fingerpicking & Strumming 2012/11 Misc.
_CMPFMF3 [N/A] Campfire w/ Electric Bass 2012/12 Misc.
_CMPFMH3 [N/A] Campfire, Hank 2 Guitars & Bass 2012/12 Misc.
_COLDRO [N/A] Honky Tonk 2012/03 Misc.
_COWBOY1 [N/A] Cowboy 2012/04 Misc.
_CRICH2 [N/A] Country Ballad w/ Dreamy Guitar 2014/07 Misc.
_CROSAMP [N/A] Modern Rock Ballad 2011/12 Misc.
_CROSMDS [N/A] Country Crossover, Mandolin Solo 2014/07 Misc.
_CRSOAMP [N/A] Contemporary Country/Rock w/ Amplitube 2011/12 Misc.
_CTRTSEC [N/A] Country Wasteland 2012/12 Misc.
_CTRYSW1 [N/A] Swinging Guitars w/ Piano 2012/04 Misc.
_CWALTZ [N/A] Slow Country Waltz w/ Piano 2012/04 Misc.
_EAGLL [N/A] Even 8 Country w/ Pedal Steel 2012/04 Misc.
_ELCBAMP [N/A] Amplitube Strumming Electric Guitar 2011/12 Misc.
_ELCOAMP [N/A] Amplitube Strumming Electric Guitar 2011/12 Misc.
_ELJ_AMP [N/A] Amplitube Blues Autowah Electric Bass 2011/12 Misc.
_GUARPNO [N/A] Guaracha Piano Trio 2014/07 Misc.
_HAGPDS [N/A] Swinging Country w/ Pedal Steel 2012/11 Misc.
_HAYRID [N/A] Fast Country Swing w/ Harmonica 1 2012/06 Misc.
_J190AMP [N/A] Amplitube Jazz Guitar Soloist 2011/12 Misc.
_JEGTAMP [N/A] Amplitube Jazz Guitar Ballad 2011/12 Misc.
_JGTSAMP [N/A] Amplitube Jazz Guitar Soloist 2011/12 Misc.
_JWGSAMP [N/A] Amplitube Jazz Waltz Guitar Solo 2011/12 Misc.
_MDBAAMP [N/A] Amplitube Electric Guitar Pop Ballad 2011/12 Misc.
_MEMPAMP [N/A] Amplitube Memphis Swing 2011/12 Misc.
_MEMPHS1 [N/A] Memphis Swing w/ Piano 2012/12 Misc.
_MODSYRG [N/A] Country Syncopated w/ Resonator Guitar 2014/07 Misc.
_MPOP16 [N/A] Medium Pop 16ths w/ Mandolin & Piano 2012/04 Misc.
_NRCKAMP [N/A] Amplitube Folk Ballad w/ Electric Bass 2011/12 Misc.
_NRTRKSW [N/A] Northern Rock Swing 8ths 2014/07 Misc.
_POPCAMP [N/A] Amplitube Pop Calypso Electric Guitar 2011/12 Misc.
_POPRAMP [N/A] Amplitube New Wave 2011/12 Misc.
_ROKAAMP [N/A] Amplitube New Wave 2011/12 Misc.
_SBALJJ1 [N/A] Slow Country Ballad w/ Piano 1 2012/04 Misc.
_SHINAMP [N/A] Amplitube Shining Electric Guitar Solo 2011/12 Misc.
_SLDSAMP [N/A] Amplitube Slide Blues w/ Guitar Solo 2011/12 Misc.
_SOULAMP [N/A] Amplitube 70s Soul Electric Guitars 2011/12 Misc.
_SOUTAMP [N/A] Amplitube Southern Rock Electric Guitar 2011/12 Misc.
_TBSW161 [N/A] Nashville Teen Beat 1 2012/05 Misc.
_TBSW163 [N/A] Nashville Teen Beat 2 2012/06 Misc.
_TBSW164 [N/A] Nashville Teen Beat 3 2012/06 Misc.
_TEXAAMP [N/A] Amplitube Texas Style 2011/12 Misc.
_THRAAMP [N/A] Amplitube Metal Chug w/ Organ 2011/12 Misc.
_TRAINBT [N/A] Basic Workin' Man 2012/04 Misc.
_TRAINFP [N/A] Country Train w/ Fiddle, Pedal Steel 2014/07 Misc.
_WAYLGP [N/A] Even Country w/ Piano & Guitar 2012/04 Misc.
_WORKIN1 [N/A] Workin' Man 2012/04 Misc.
_WSBAND1 [N/A] Western Swing Band 2012/04 Misc.
_GEORGE1 [N/A] Slow Country Ballad w/ George Fiddle 2012/04 Misc.
METRONM1 [N/A] Metronome, Any Timesig or Tempo 2014/07 Misc.
METRONM2 [N/A] Metronome, 4-4, Beat 1 Accented 2014/07 Misc.
METRONM3 [N/A] Metronome, 3-4, Beat 1 Accented 2014/07 Misc.
METRONM4 [N/A] Metronome, 4-4, Beats 2 & 4 Accented 2014/07 Misc.
pianohld [N/A] Metronome w/ Held Piano Chords 2014/07 Misc.
GPSYBOP+ [N/A] Gypsy Bop MIDI Jazz MultiStyle 2018/04 Xtra PAK
OLDWEST+ [N/A] Old West MIDI Country MultiStyle 2018/04 Xtra PAK

Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/21/18 10:54 PM
Hi MusicMan,

It looks like all of these styles (except for the last two) were from 2014 or earlier, so would have been included with your 2016 EverythingPAK. I'll see if I can find installers that'll just install this missing stuff tomorrow though, so you don't have to install 2016, 2017, and 2018 again.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: fiddler2007 Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 04:03 AM
Originally Posted By: Kent - PG Music
Hi MusicMan,

It looks like all of these styles (except for the last two) were from 2014 or earlier, so would have been included with your 2016 EverythingPAK. I'll see if I can find installers that'll just install this missing stuff tomorrow though, so you don't have to install 2016, 2017, and 2018 again.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
I'd be interested too, for checkups .... thnx, F
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 03:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Kent - PG Music
Hi MusicMan,

It looks like all of these styles (except for the last two) were from 2014 or earlier, so would have been included with your 2016 EverythingPAK. I'll see if I can find installers that'll just install this missing stuff tomorrow though, so you don't have to install 2016, 2017, and 2018 again.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music


Thanks! Do you think you will be able to find the individual files? I installed all the real tracks I had again in the process, so if you have individual files that might be helpful.

Also if you have the handful of RTs are missing? M_JZFPLK, M_POPFLT, M_STQRTP, M_STQRTZ, and Humbling.


ALso C:\bb\Soloists\RSynth014.ST2 is not found. Can I get that file?

Thanks!

Greg
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 03:56 PM
Hi Greg,

M_JZFPLK, M_POPFLT, M_STQRTP, M_STQRTZ, and Humbling are styles, not RealTracks. RSynth014.ST2 does refer to a RealTrack though. If you want to see which RealTracks you're missing, open the RealTracks Picker, check "Show RealTracks that are N/A", and sort the list by the N/A column.

I have a feeling the missing RealTracks are all from your 2016 version as well.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 04:01 PM
Thanks kent. The ones listed are the ones that are missing when showing Real Tracks that are NA.

Humbling is from Xtra Pak 5, but I have reinstalled, uninstalled, rebuilt the DB and it is showing up as missing. I think some are showing as missing because of a missing real track in the style.

Two are missing the synth file, two are missing a string quarter file I believe.

Before I started all of the reinstalling, rebuilding, etc. I originally had no Real Tracks missing, but then those 5 popped up.

Thanks for your help here.
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 04:29 PM
Hi Greg,

Those files you listed couldn't possibly be showing up in the RealTracks Picker, as they're not RealTracks. They're styles, so would only be listed in the StylePicker, completely different window.

You'll need to click the RealTracks button, then RealTracks Picker Dialog, to get to the window I'm referring to.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/22/18 07:54 PM
Hi Musicman,

I just downloaded and ran the main installer for Band-in-a-Box 2016, and got all of those styles immediately. Here's what I'd recommend, to avoid having to reinstall 2017 and 2018: Download and run the installer called "Band-in-a-Box and RealBand 2016 Full (Windows)" from your list of downloads, and install it to a new folder, like C:\BB2016. Don't install it to where 2018 is currently installed.

Then copy the STY files from the C:\BB2016 folder to the C:\BB\Styles folder, and that should fill in everything you're missing.

It sounds like you're missing some MIDI SuperTracks as well, so download and run "MIDI SuperTracks Sets 001-020 (Windows)" as well, while you're at it.

If the 2016 links on your online account have expired, let me know and I'll refresh them.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/23/18 01:16 AM
Thanks so much for the info. Installed the 2016 installer and got almost all of the styles found! I am down to 2 styles not found.

GPSYBOP+ M 4/4 sw8 220 [N/A] Gypsy Bop MIDI Jazz MultiStyle Jazz Jazz 2018/04 Xtra PAK 3 4 Gypsy Jazz,Jazz Swing,Bebop

OLDWEST+ M 4/4 sw8 120 [N/A] Old West MIDI Country MultiStyle Country Country 2018/04 Xtra PAK 5 6 Country Ballad,Country Classic


I ran all 5the xtra paks plus the MIDI super tracks into the bb2016 folder. The 2016 install seems to put the styles into the root of the bb2016 folder, whereas the 2018 folder has the styles in a styles folder.

I don't see these two styles though after running the 5 Xtra pak installers.

Thanks again for taking the time to look deeply into this. Much appreciated!
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/23/18 03:13 PM
Hi,

Did you install the Xtra Styles and MIDI SuperTracks to the 2018 folder too?

The 2016 installation was just to generate STY files to copy into the 2018 Styles folder, there's no need to install any additional material to the 2016 folder.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/23/18 06:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Kent - PG Music
Hi,

Did you install the Xtra Styles and MIDI SuperTracks to the 2018 folder too?

The 2016 installation was just to generate STY files to copy into the 2018 Styles folder, there's no need to install any additional material to the 2016 folder.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music


Hi Kent,

Yes I installed the Xtra Styles and the MIDI supertracks in the 2018 folder. Those two styles are still missing. I am more curious how/why this acting as such so I better understand the program.
Posted By: jford Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/24/18 12:50 PM
I would also run the cleanup utility, then do full rebuilds after doing the installs to make sure they end up in the correct folder (which changed with BIAB 2018). Just a thought.
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/24/18 06:34 PM
I think everything's in the right place. I moved those two styles out of my Styles folder and reinstalled Xtra Styles PAK 5 and they didn't reappear, so I'll need to figure out which installer has them.

I've emailed Musicman the style files, so the installation should be complete for now.

Cheers
Kent
PG Music
Posted By: Musicmanicny Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/24/18 09:57 PM
Thanks again Kent for following this through! Now I need to learn BIAB a little better. So great for putting together ideas.
Posted By: Kent - PG Music Re: missing styles - help identfy? - 08/24/18 11:28 PM
Glad I could help! Please let us know if you run into more problems.

Cheers
Kent
PG Music
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