I downloaded & installed BIAB2010 Megapak inkl. 10Pak and there seem to be either some files missing or some bugs.

If I select style _POPOMED, BIAB complains about following real tracks missing:
style set 32, 524 guitar acoustic strumming ev 165
style set 27, 544 guitar electric rhytm dreamy ev 165

then, pressing play, it complains about following files missing:

c:\bb\relgt041.st2
c:\bb\racg25.st2

When I select _POPORGN or other styles, there are similar errors.

I tried BIAB 2010 update 294 - didn't help
I tried both RealTracks updates (August and December 2009) - didn't help

Rebuilding style list file doesn't help either.

Anyone?

Mega Pak only includes this:
MegaPAK RealCombos:
40 RealTracks in 10 Bands
Jazz Swing 140, Country Ballad 65
Pop Rock 120,Bossa 140, Bluegrass 130
Blues 120, American PopRock 120,
SmoothCool Jazz 100, JazzBallad 85,
HardRock Thrash 85
+ RealDrums Sets 1-5

You should have gotten the Ultra Plus Pak. If it's been less then 30 days they'll probably exchange.

I don't get it

Do you want to say that BIAB includes incomplete styles?

I mean, either an AddOn, Pak or whatever it is called is _installed_ or it is _not_.

So, when there is an error message about something missing, I conclude that there is something wrong with the installation...

But if this behaviour is a "feature", not a bug, that it is plain stupid and missleading to new users.

Yup we are all stupid. This is a user forum. If you want to rant email support. Read all about what you ordered first, so you are not embarrassed in the end. Sort of like you bought a new car and after a few days discover that it does not have a feature you wanted. Obviously it's the dealer's fault.

There exist different versions so that those who have limited budgets can get a Volkswagon beetle and upgrade to the Ferrari later.

Later.

Real Tracks & Real Drums are enhancements to the styles. The Mega Pak contains all 77 styles but will be limited to MIDI for those instruments that you don't have a Real Track or Real Drum file.
I'll assume this is a first time purchase. If you had checked here either asking or doing a search you'd find that the reccommendation from all of us old timers is to buy nothing less then the Ultra Plus Pak. Save up the extra $200 and go all the way.
As I said if it's been less then 30 days they'll upgrade you or take it back.

John Conley: John, you should take it a bit easier with the sarcasm. It doesn't come across as either helpful or friendly. Andi is only new to BIAB (and the forum) and he has a genuine concern. He hasn't had a chance to appreciate your sense of humor yet nor has he had the chance to appreciate that you can be a really helpful guy.

Andi,

When you are new to BIAB and you read the descriptions in the sales section of the website, it's easy for things not to be perfectly clear. I remember what it was like when I first purchased the product! When you compare the Megapak with the UltraPlusPak, you can see that the MegaPak has 40 Realtracks and sets 1 - 5 of Realdrums; the UltraPlusPak, on the other hand, has 82 Realtracks and 200+ Realdrums. Both installations have 77 style sets. The style sets are the basis of the backing arrangements you hear and work both in MIDI and with various pre-set configurations of Realtracks and Realdrums.

From what you say, it seems that some configurations of the styles that you have tried to load-in have Realdrums and/or Realtracks that are not included in the Megapak. In those cases, the styles can only be played with MIDI instruments replacing the missing Real-instruments. This is as it should be.

As silvertones has said, if you haven't yet had BIAB for 30 days, contact PGMusic. They are very honorable when it comes to their 30-day money-back guarantee. They want to see you happy too. (I'd contact them on their toll-free number immediately.) I strongly encourage you to get the package that has all Realstyles and Realdrums.

When you have a bit more experience with BIAB, you'll appreciate how it all works and it's never as confusing again.

All the best,
Noel

You didn't get me - despite Noel. It's not about "Oh, my new car misses some features I expected" but "Oh, my new car seems broken because it's giving me error messages."

That's it.

I didn't want to buy the Ultra Pak and still don't want to. Period.

My point is: why do they include incomplete styles and make BIAB complain about missing files!!??

From a stupid user perspective, I expect an application so be self-consistent, without open ends and broken parts.

So, when installing the Mega Pak, BIAB should be aware of being a Mega Pak installation and not bug the user with such non-sense error messages. Period.

Hi andi,

I notice you only joined the forums a day ago. I meant to say to welcome

Have you spoken to PGMusic about this to make sure that the Megapak you have is operating properly? If I were you, I'd be checking with PGMusic directly just to make sure.

These forums are a place where BIAB users help one another solve problems or give one another ideas. We don't have any say in the actual making or marketing of BIAB. It is possible that your MegaPak is not behaving in the way that it should be.

Regards,
Noel

There was no sarcasm intended. One looks at one's purchase and that's that.

If the issue is that from a Marketing Perspective missing 'pieces' that are for sale should be brought to the user's attention, then perhaps the methodology should be examined. The code may be 'old', and may have been put there when things were simpler, like all we had was 40 jazz styles 4 country styles, and 5 classical ones, and if one was undetected then the software flagged it. Who knows. It's a software issue, and probably nothing is missing. If you go through what you bought and compare, well it's there or it's not.

It took me over 10 years to cure my wife of coming home with 100 items on a grocery bill and ticking each item off her sales slip.

I do that at the store as the checkout is happening, and trust me, my memory is good enough to know the bananas were 19 cents / pound, and I sure as heck speak up. Here if it's wrong it's free. I once bought 10 pounds of bacon, the sign said 2.99 / pound. That was the previous weeks sale. My Dad was with me and he got 2 pounds. We get to the check out and gee doesn't the amount come to 4.00 / pound. I point out it's on an end aisle, big sign says 2.99 and according to the 'fair code of pricing', the bacon was free!

AT THE END of the day,this user forum is SOMETIMES watched by pg music, but any real concern should be documented, well written, and sent to pgmusic@support.com. I write them quite often...

Andi,
If the warnings is your only issue go to:
opt/preferences. On the first screen bottom right hand side "text Hints" uncheck everything.

Hello andi,

We have added a fix for this to the build 294 patch. Thank you for reporting it.

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Yup we are all stupid.

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John,
This wasn't sarcasm? Then I'm offended.
Noel