Just uploaded XPRO3 and XTRA STYLES 13 into BB (923).
Although there are many new Styles, my Style count has remained the same at 9748 even though they show in the updated overall listing. Why?
Could it be because they DO NOT yet appear in the Stylepicker Category 'New in 2022’?
Do they need adding (by PG) to the 'New in 2022’ category in order for it to update the total?
Or am I missing something obvious?
Probably.
Bests
Ian

Do you have version 2022 of BIAB, and if so, have you downloaded build 923 and performed the requested Rebuild?

Hi Matt
Yes - 2022 full P!US version, 923, and Fast Rebuild done.
Ian

Strange my stylepicker seems to have less styles after I do a fast rebuild, I have quite a few third party styles like Norton etc and after instlalling the latest Xpro 3 and Xtra styles 13 I have 11,005 before a rebuild, after a rebuild its 10,975.

I know that PGmusic always say to do a rebuild and biab prompts us to do so, but my experience has been for a while NOT to do a rebuild as I end up with less total styles.

As long as you can see all the new styles Ian using the filter options I probably wouldn't worry too much about the total number shown.

Yes, the new Styles are all listed and work.
What puzzles me is, given all the NEW Styles (+200 or more) there is no incremental increase.
More importantly I guess is that the Packs DON'T SHOW in the'New for 2022' category at all.
Ian

A fast rebuild only picks up BiaB style. That is why your count is lower. A slow rebuild picks up all styles, PGM and third party styles.

Hi Ian,
9748 is the number I have.

The public release of build 923 had extra support for those new Styles.

Make sure you are on that latest release before a rebuild and see what results you get (I got caught).
Trev

Try typing in "Xpro' or Xtra" into the filter string. Do you see your new Styles then?

I'd been wondering whether to report similar, but as I share a drive between Win10 and Wine+Linux, I wasn't wholly sure it wasn't peculiar to me. Several reports say that isn't the case, so...

My StylePicker reports 9394 styles even after saying it's added more styles.
Copy list to clipboard reports 9394 styles copied and the list actually contains 9394
A count of .STY files in bb/Styles gives 9736.

I mentioned this when I had the issue of XtraPAK 13 not showing, but I didn't then pursue it for the reasons above.

2022 Build 923.
Edit: I have some Norton styles and I do the slow rebuild.

Of course, in this instance ALL the Styles are PGM product so Fast or Slow provide same number 9748.
HOWEVER, during the REBUILD process a little yellow box popped up saying there were 10,120 in the list, which is about what I might have expected, but the number in the top left remains at 9748.
That's telling me (as a complete non-tech) that the top left is reading the 'Categories' listing and XPRO3 and XTRASTYLES13 are not showing in that listing so doesn't include them.
No?
Ian

I click [Clear], so all styles should show.

I get similar-ish in the yellow box(es):
Processing 9731
Total styles 10,166


It also always reports an additional 46 files, though no numbers change.

Hi Gordon
Would you do me a favour and do a rebuild (again) in Win 10 and keep your beady eyes on the bottom right corner and see if you get a little yellow box popping up momentarily saying you have lots more than the top left number?
I'd be interested in yr result.
BTW - I run BB2022 (923) also in a Win7 drive, with the same result so it isnt your Lino thingy. Lol.

I shall.
It may take a little while as my Win10 keeps trying to install some updates, then decides it can't and rolls them all out again, occasionally throwing in some boot-up failures for good measure.

Yes, I get excited by that exaggerated value too. The yellow box happens here as well, and then the final count settles down. I have no idea why the higher value is initially reported. And I don't think we are alone.

Perhaps PG Music can advise where that ultimately undelivered value comes from? This is not new to 2022. It's happened to me for years. I'd be really interested to understand it more.

Here is my data (in the unfortunately reverse order format, latest message at the top):

Completed... Total Styles found =9748 Elapsed Time is 43.9 seconds. [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Counting the styles... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Rebuilding the Genre and Categories Counts... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Eliminating Duplicate Listings... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Saving Files... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Setting Number of Styles... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
10120 styles sorted and data valid (code=setsortdataforStylZ) [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:58:20 AM]
Indexing sort data... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:57:49 AM]
Setting order Numbers... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:57:49 AM]
Updating Master styles list for new styles found, please wait (about 30 seconds). Setting style exists... [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:57:36 AM]
Updating List of RealTracks [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:57:19 AM]
Updating List of RealDrums [2022.923.0, 3/07/2022 10:57:00 AM]

Today is a good day ... Win10 just started with no fuss.

All numbers the same:
9394 on the StylePicker and the final message.
9731 styles being processed (in yellow box).
10,166 total styles (in yellow box).
46 additional styles found.

I can't eliminate the possibility that something from Wine+Linux is perturbing something on Win10 ... there appears some interaction as running rebuild in one (sometimes?) results in a request to rebuild in the other, though I see no concrete affects of so doing. I suspect a date-stamp on the C drive or in the registry gets flagged.

Interestingly, to me at least, the rebuild on Wine+Linux is reported faster.

Edit: FWIW, returning to the green "Rebuild" message cites: "[code=7 (KategoriesCountBinfile)]"

Thanks Gordon, much appreciated.
Can you confirm that that those 2 extra packs do not show in New for 2022?

That's probably at least a part of it, though why there are duplicates to remove I know not.

Exact same numbers, Trev.
I guess that the new extra packs dont show in the New for 2022 category so couldnt actually be selected independently.
Beets
Ian

I don't have XPro3. I have XtraPAK 13 but either it did not appear, or possibly it was listed as Xtra Styles 12.

From the relevant thread thread...



Edit: Caveat: PGM did not suggest deleting stylz1.bin, only User_stylz1.bin, but I kept a safe copy and did it anyway.

So the conundrum still exists - how can I have 9748 styles BEFORE adding 2 large packs of Styles and still only have 9748 afterwards, even though they appear in the extended Style listing.
Over to you PG.
Ian

9748 is the total number of PG Music styles as of July 2022. If you have fewer styles than that, you can see which ones you are missing by doing this:

1. Open StylePicker, do a fast rebuild.
2. Click on the Other drop-down –> Show styles that are found/not found –> Only show N/A.
3. Now you can see which PG Music styles are missing, and sorting by Set# should make it clear what's going on.

Mine came out correctly. I had to make sure that I had ALL styles listed. (I rarely use midi.)

...Deb

Thanks Andrew
I wonder if you can advise where the initial figure of 10120 styles comes from?

sixchannel,

I believe PG Music stated in the past The higher number reported in the yellow message box, 10,120 in your case, is a gross reporting number of the total number of styles found. Some styles are reported multiple times because duplicates reside in multiple sub folders. 9,748 is a net number where each style is counted and listed one time.

If I count the number of *.STY files in BB, I get 11,038 (this is including sub-folders)

If I count the number of *.STY files that are only in the \BB\Styles\ folder I get 10,101

Thanks Andrew and all Posters.
I get it now but am wondering still WHY it showed 9748 BEFORE I did the Rebuild to incorporate my 2 new DLs but is a bit irrelevnt I guess.
BTW - no N/As. Full House. Lol.
Bests
Ian

OK, that identifies my 9394 rather than 9748, as I don't have the LoopsPAKs or the XProPAKs. (total 401) and I have some Norton styles that appear in the list and the count, which almost certainly accounts for the disparity.

As usual I find the whole lot of this plethora of bundles and PAKs confusing. What's included when and where. Making an extended version of this table:
https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm
to show that detail would make things much clearer.

Incidentally, why is the OmniPAK not included in that list? It's just another package, isn't it?

Who has listened to the 10,000 styles?
Who mixed the 10,000 styles together?
There are more styles than you will ever hear. And we add more than 300 every year. + 1 each day !

I guess you don't have to listen to the 10,000 styles to know everything about them or to find the one you want.

There are lots of filters to achieve that.

The important thing if that you have a large range of required styles to select from. Extraordinary versatility.

Out of interest I tried checking if I have everything. The "What add-ons do I have?" option showed that I have everything installed, but when I tried the missing option I found that I had 62 styles from various paks missing. I reinstalled the 2022 bonuspaks 0 & 49 and most of the missing bonus styles reappeared. I downloaded the installation files of the other missing styles and regained all the known pgmusic stles bar one - namely _paloma.sty which is in Set #83 Midi. I cannot find an installer which has this style. Does anyone know which installer will retrieve this?

I searched my hard drive BIAB 2022 version and did not find that style on it either. So where is it??

MIDI Styles Set 83: Look Ma! More MIDI 6
Included in the 2021 Bonus PAKs

I did re-install the 2021 bonus pak too but _PALOMA.sty does not appear. Given the fact that it is not on the hard drive version of BIAB 2022 I wonder where it does reside...

I have found it. It exists as PALOMA (no underscore) in 82 MIDI

It's installed in \bb\Styles\ on my system, file date: June 03, 2020. Size: 36.1kb.
I suspect you may need to reinstall the Bonus Pak?

I did reinstall the Bonus Pak but the stylepicker still showed it as missing even though the entries appeared with the reinstall. When I deleted the _PALOMA.stx file the entry in stylepicker disappeared. Go figure!!

Anyway it appears that I do have all the styles.

This would be just from a log written while processing the styles. There are many styles that are not full styles, only helpers or substyles that work with another style. There are other miscellaneous files that are duplicates and are only present for backwards compatibility, so it isn't surprising to see a number in the logs that is higher than the total number of styles displayed in the StylePicker.

Thanks Andrew for the clarification. Appreciated, and helps to explain why some users (including me) discover that there appears to be missing styles after a rebuild.