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Posted By: Keebo Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 05:41 AM
Hey guys. I posted a thread earlier about my brother's old Sony Vaio and nearly gave up on the idea of using it. Tonight I decided to try Ubuntu on it as an OS. Well the damn thing works so far and have downloaded a few apps via its WiFi. The audio and video doesn't seem to have a problem though I haven't migrated any Windows audio/video files yet.

I am tickled pink to finally have the damn thing boot up without any whining about no OS installed. Speaking of whining, I have installed WINE which is an app to be able to use (some) Windows programs on the Linux OS. I haven't dug in very deep but it is apparent that it is not an emulator and that some basic commands must be used to get certain programs to run.

Is anyone familiar with Ubuntu/Linux and willing to give a few tidbits of experience that might not be easily searchable on their website (which is less than aimed at beginners).

I know I won't be able to use many of my main programs on it (like Sonar, Reaper, BIAB, 3D GameStudio, Visual Basic, Word, etc.) but have found versions of Blender, Open Office, text editors, Gimp, etc. available.

As mentioned earlier about the reliability of this unit I would not feel comfortable about using it for gigging but why not use it for something now that it breathes. Any thoughts?

Thanks.
Posted By: Noel96 Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 05:44 AM
I've been using Ubuntu for years. I like it
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 06:58 AM
I use fedora linux, and love it. I still have music software on Windows, but fedora is my net surfing E-mail, daily use home computer. Open office, and a plethora of great software, and it just flat runs on an older system strong.
Posted By: silvertones Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 02:17 PM
I've used Ubuntu for years also.I use it like Robh.
Posted By: Oren Fisher Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 06:45 PM
Ubuntu is a good place to start with Linux, and you can customize the O/S as your skills improve to accomplish those specific tasks that characterize your computing habits.
Go with their "long term support" - LTS - versions for maximum productivity. The current LTS version is 10.04

Stay way from Ubuntu Studio for music production - it has not been released with a real-time kernel since version 9.10.
Many Linux audio applications will work just fine on your regular Ubuntu desktop O/S, including JACK, Ardour, Audacity, LMMS, and Hydrogen.

Unlike many forum members, I use only Linux. I have found every computing job can be accomplished with a Linux application - efficiently, and safely. If you want to deploy Windoze-dependent software, there is always a way to run it under Linux... if you are willing to be sufficiently resourceful.
Posted By: tonymoloney Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/22/12 11:50 PM
Like the other correspondents, i have been using Linux for years.
I have BIAB working under WINE but had a problem getting MIDI to work. I found the solution at the following link:


http://en.kioskea.net/faq/8266-use-band-in-a-box-under-linux
Posted By: bobcflatpicker Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/23/12 12:34 AM
I used Ubuntu 11.10 for two months or so because I had to, but I will say it was a very good FREE OS complete with a basic office suite that lets you surf the net and create documents to your hearts delight.

If you want to do much more that and don't want to have to tinker just to get Windows programs to run, then Windows is the best way to go.

JMHO. Later,
Posted By: Keebo Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/23/12 03:10 AM
Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately I tried to install Ubuntu Studio for the music related apps but it would not install after four attempts. The install process wiped out the original Ubuntu installation and it took four more attempts to get it installed again. I'll stick with adding the apps manually though it is quite a different way of doing things.

That is what I need, another new geek tech to take away from making music :-) .
Posted By: bobcflatpicker Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/23/12 03:20 AM
Keebo,

Quote:

That is what I need, another new geek tech to take away from making music :-) .




If you just want to make music, ... go Windows or Mac.

Linux is for the adventurous geek who likes to tinker and try to make things work. A worthy endeavour, ... unless of course you just want to make music and use your computer!
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/23/12 10:10 PM
I agree with Bob. I would not use Linux for audio/midi stuff. I know Oren is using it successfully, but he is a linux guru, and has spent considerable time there. For everything else i have had nothing but success in linux, and love it.
Posted By: Keebo Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/23/12 11:55 PM
Quote:

Keebo,

Quote:

That is what I need, another new geek tech to take away from making music :-) .




If you just want to make music, ... go Windows or Mac.

Linux is for the adventurous geek who likes to tinker and try to make things work. A worthy endeavour, ... unless of course you just want to make music and use your computer!




I hear ya, Bob.

I have a Windows 7 based home studio where I make music the normal way. I'm using my newish iPod Touch to make music the abnormal way. Now this laptop was given to me because the restore discs failed to reinstall Vista. Ubuntu was free and felt like I could experiment with it instead of throwing the laptop back in the closet.

I have installed several music related apps today but haven't spent any time with them other to see if they work. Downloading Wine now.

Thanks for the discussion.
Posted By: jcspro40 Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 01:33 AM
Reaper works fine with Linux, and it even has it's own "OS" called Remix OS. It is already setup with a low latency kernel.

On the previous version of this OS (both x32 x64) BiaB 2011 run totally fine with all features, but with the newest release it has some issues when creating Real Track arrangements.

The version of WINE in this OS is tweaked really well, and has let me load a lot of software that I "must have" that don't have Linux equivalents yet.

AV Linux is another Linux-based Studio setup that has a ton of native Linux software for both audio & video,runs BiaB well, and the newest 5.03 is running great on this system.

Both are Free downloads, and both are Live DVD's, so no installing it to your HDD, just pop in the DVD & reboot. If your system can boot from a CD/DVD or USB stick you should be able to have a play with them.
Posted By: Lawrie Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 01:47 AM
Yup, tried really hard to download Remix OS, but I don't read Russian and can't find a download link that doesn't take me to a site I can't read...
Posted By: Oren Fisher Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 02:23 AM
I'm going to pretend I didn't see that goo-roo remark... ...

Haven't come across this "Remix OS" before - looks cool! The download links do, indeed, take one on a merry Russian ride. Perhaps a little help from jcspro40 would point us toward where a current download site resides...

"AV Linux" requires BitTorrent software or FTP capability to download. Otherwise, it seems quite accessible.

Starting your Linux journey with Ubuntu is still probably the most prudent approach - they tend not to assume any previous Linux experience on the part of a new user.
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 03:09 PM
All seriousness aside Oren! You be the Roo! If you use Linux for all audio stuff you have some mad skeeyullz! I tried for a long time to configure Jack, and all that stuff, but i could never get it stable. I mean it works, and i have Reaper on my Fedora box, but you could never rely on it. I tried Rosegarden, and two or three others as well.
Posted By: Tommyc Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 03:28 PM
What about Wine Rob, have you tried that? Try this link and see if their way works for you.
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/8266-use-band-in-a-box-under-linux
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Linux - Ubuntu - 02/24/12 06:35 PM
I not only have the latest wine version, but i bought a program called Crossovers that takes wine to a higher level with support.

Personally i do not want to really use linux for recording, there is just too many programs, and plugins that i use under windows, and they all work great, and i have no real problems. To me linux is a great surfing, daily use OS, and does 90% of what i want, but for DAW work i will stay in Windows.
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