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Posted By: guitarman Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 02:26 PM
Hi Everyone

A little bit of Country for a change.

It dosen't need any introduction,I didn't try to emulate the Pedal Steel as in the original
because the tune is played on guitar,and it didn't sound quite right.

Played on my homemade Strat with original 1986 Fender Pick-ups,through my Tonelab as usual.

Comments welcome,thanks for listening,have a nice day.

Alan

http://www.4shared.com/file/92469700/b5bc66ce/Stand_By_Your_Man_Test_Mix.html
Posted By: botma Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 03:13 PM
What can you say Alan. It's pro like. You have it down Pat.
Alan.... I always enjoy your posts Your Strat is sounding great, as is your playing!

One teeny gripe if I may.... There is a hamony note near the end, If going by the lyrics its on the word "can"
Keep giving all the love you CAN ....Stand by your man....

I'm just being picky The root note is Db and the harmony note is E An alternative for the harmony might be F on the word "can and moving up to F# on the next bar

Not suggesting you should change anything, it's just my opinion .

Good stuff buddy, keep em coming .....

Dave.
Alan,
Your playing is wonderful, reminiscent in some places of Chet Atkins on this song. However, it's all Mono. There is no seperation. All the players are standing in the same place on stage...it must be very crowded there.

I can't believe the backing tracks you are buying don't have the capability of pan and positioning for the individual tracks.

Where do you get them again?

Gary
Posted By: toucher Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 06:04 PM
Excellent work.
Posted By: guitarman Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 06:22 PM
Hi Guys

Many thanks for the comments,appreciated as always.

Dave,
I tried it both ways and thought the way it is sounded right.
I think it's personal preference.

Gary,He He you got a PM
I got the files off the Internet and some off ebay,in case anyone
else was wondering.
Wait till I post the next one,Oh eck!!!

Alan
Sounds nice and clean. Am I to understand that you purchased the backing tracks and then added your guitar? Where did you get the tracks?

Darren
Posted By: Noel96 Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 11:51 PM
Hey Alan,

What a great arrangement! I'm just about to hit "replay" to listen again.

Noel
Posted By: Don Gaynor Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/13/09 11:53 PM
another great rendition of an old country song. its a keeper. thanks.
i would love to hear you pick 'buckaroo' and 'chaparral' by don rich. what about it?
Posted By: edbulmer Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/14/09 12:21 AM

Excellent! Well done.
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/14/09 01:59 AM
Alan;

Great guitar work. Nice and clean. Good mix.
Posted By: Don Gaynor Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/14/09 03:37 AM
Here is chaparral:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9P738E0Zo

and buckaroo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHbNmHhEoI&NR=1

The late don rich was a great guitarist, fiddle player, and vocalist in buck owen’s band ‘the buckaroos’ until his untimely death in a motorcycle wreck.
Posted By: Skyline Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/14/09 12:03 PM
Bootiful, Alan! Guitar tone is perfect (for the genre) and your touch is as ever, immaculate.
Gary's right about the stereo picture, I can hear a rhythm guitar lightly off to the left but all the others seem more or less centre. A meagre point in the context of a first class piece, but I'd just pan the piano a tad (opposite side to the rhyhtm guitar) so the stereo picture is nice and 'full'.

John
Posted By: Stellina99 Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/14/09 12:41 PM
Hi,

Myself Snoreta from India! I am new here in this forum. I just want to say hello to all. I am glad to be a member here.

Snoreta

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Alan sent me some details on his setup, and how he tracked stuff. So, I made some suggestions for him.

One of the things that I did was to use the videos uploaded by Matt Finley on YouTube to demonstrate what 'sound stage' looks like.

Matt and his band, RioJazz playing 'Just A Little Bit Higher'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B0Rg7VJgbk

'Julia'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIcNSeuxiKw&feature=channel

'Jordan'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiby68YSbZI&feature=channel

I also suggested to Alan since he had the backing guitars panned both right and left that he pan them both to the same side, and put a little separation between them, so pan on Left 30 and the other Left 40 or 45.

But, I also had to apologize to Alan, because I made a huge mistake. I didn't realize that my left and right speakers were not connected, and I was only listening on the center speaker. It wasn't until later that I was listening again on headphones did I realize the error, and correct it.

Gary
Posted By: guitarman Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/15/09 09:17 AM
Thanks Gary

I always thought the placement of certain instruments was pre-determined,having
listened to the vid's and comments it appears that's not right.

Hopefully the next couple of songs will be an improvement,if not I will be
looking for a sound engineer with lots of patience,lol.

Thanks again to everyone for the kind comments,I'll be back soon.

Alan
Posted By: furry Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/15/09 05:09 PM
Alan that's simply magnificent ole buddy
Alan,
As a musician, you may be told 'stand here on this mark', or 'we're going to put you here in the mix', and you kind of have to do that. BUT, on the hand, wearing the Engineer hat, you get to put the instruments wherever you want. You are the boss, and the only rules that you have to obey are the ones that you want to.

Now, having said that, there are some basic guidelines for mixing that most people follow, because you want a certain sound.

Let's talk about The Ventures, because that's where a lot of your sound is modeled after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJUf4NMI...=PL&index=1

Notice that indeed, the drummer is behind the lead guitarist, and the rhythm guitars are off to either side. So, if you're playing a Ventures song, technically the way you set up 'Stand By Your Man' would be accurate to The Ventures sound. At least the VISUAL Sound Stage. Remember though that the outputs of drums and guitar amps are sent through a mixing board, and once in the hands of the Sound Engineer, can be panned right, left or wherever they want. In fact, I could with a console, put the left guitarist on the right, and the right guitarist on the left. I can even make them 'walk' across the stage, sonically, just by adjusting the pan of the tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR1ln52_ccM&feature=PlayList&p=B3AD0A46840A5379&index=6

Now, for this one, the drums appear on the hard right, and the guitarists are all left, but if you could hear it in stereo, it wouldn't be that way, because of the mixing going on in real time.

In this video of The Beatles 'Hard Days Night' you can see Ringo is back off to the right of the stage, there's a piano back on the left side of the stage, and John, Paul and George are all to the left of Ringo. Again, because it's not stereo, you won't hear that, but live, you would, and the engineer might play with the pan and volume controls to move them around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShrdKHeAel0&feature=related

So, don't be constrained by what you THINK you have to do, move things around to create what you WANT to hear.

Gary
Posted By: MarioD Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/17/09 03:09 PM
It's all been said.

OUTSTANDING as usual Alan.
Posted By: Superbron Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/17/09 09:07 PM
Quote:

It's all been said.

OUTSTANDING as usual Alan.


+1
Posted By: blueskygal Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/18/09 04:38 AM
Thank you Alan enjoyed your simple picking. So i have not bought BIAB yet - but assume you used it to mix it all together and play your solo? It really sounds good. Can't wait to get my mike and BIAB!
Posted By: jazzband Re: Stand By Your Man - Alan Instrumental - 03/18/09 08:05 AM
Hi Alan

You sound as though your back to your relaxed best,you always sound great but you where playing a bit tense so im glad every thing is good as it comes out in your music,you are better then anybody at your best well done

best wishes Dave
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