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Posted By: Charlie Fogle My Sad Story - 05/13/17 07:06 PM
My Sad Story


I can’t call my wife I can’t go home
I’ve stayed in this bar way too long
There’s no lie that will get me through my front door
So I tell the bartender my sad story
She tells me boy don’t worry
I’ve something in mind to help you pass the time

There’s a motel 6 just down the road
I’ll check us in we’ll be out of the cold
My loving arms will make your dreams come true
There’s a time and a place for everything
Tonight I’m not looking for a wedding ring
It sounded like a plan and I did what I shouldn’t do.

Three days later I finally went home
I pulled in my drive, and everything was gone
Not even my dog was there to keep me company
She had called on her mama and moved out of town
Took the kids, burned the house to the ground
I’m living, dying buried by this, my sad story
Yes, living, dying buried by this, my sad story
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Key=D , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=2:28
Style is _JJSHUFL.STY (Laid Back Country Shuffle w/ Aco)

RealTracks in style: ~539:Bass, Electric, Pop Sw 120
RealTracks in style: 2124:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm CountryShuffleJohn Sw 120
RealTracks in style: ~372:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Hank Sw 120
RealTracks in song: 2534:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, HeldChords
RealTracks in song: 1115:Fiddle, Background CountrySwingChops Sw 140
RealTracks in song: 1504:Pedal Steel, Soloist, CountryShufflePaul Sw 120
RealDrums in style: NashvilleBrushesClassicShuffle: a: Sidestick, Brushes b: Brushes,

Additional Real Tracks

609 – Resonator Guitar
610 – Mandolin
618 – Fiddle
1116 - Fiddle
1283 – Electric Guitar Soloist

Completed the instrument track completely within Band in a Box.

Enjoy
Posted By: floyd jane Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 07:29 PM
Classic!

Charlie, this is really well done! Everything about this "screams" the roots of Country music. Classic use of a steel opening and an underlying fiddle.

The background vocals are...well...classic! Jordanaires-like... the solos fit the genre, perfectly.

Your vocal is terrific. Authentic. Again, the roots of Country.

Good mix. Hard to believe you do all of that in BIAB.

A terrific "sad story write". Well done through and through....

floyd
Posted By: PeterF Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 07:34 PM
Charlie

A cautionary tale well told. Excellent production all round and the song sounds great.
Floyd said it very eloquently - great job.

Peter
Posted By: 44kfl Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 08:00 PM
yep, this sounds like the real thing

memories of growing up in the South

where this great sound was on every radio station

or so it seemed. I've missed you Charlie

glad you're back around

Kenny
Posted By: RnAM Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 08:04 PM
Charlie,

Now this is truly Country & Western in our book. Our book maybe kind of limited since we're from the Netherlands, but this is the kind of Country music we grew up with.
By the way that Pedal works great!

Rob and Anne-Marie
Posted By: Robertkc Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 09:09 PM
Charlie,
This sad story makes me feel kind of glad...like I`m sitting in a proper bar listening to a real singer and washing down the music with real ale.
Authentic! I enjoyed your vocals on the last song and this is just as good - with those background voices as a bonus.
Well done,

Robert
Posted By: Scott C Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 10:15 PM
Awesome toe tapper Charlie. Excellent vocal. Backtrack was very cool. Steel guitar was excellent
Posted By: Al-David Re: My Sad Story - 05/13/17 10:44 PM
Hi Charlie,

DI's doing some embroidery work soo I'm (Alan) listening by myself. As soon as this started playing, two classic country singers came to mind - Hank, Sr. and Webb Pierce.

This is the music I grew up playing (I'm 70 years old). Webb Pierce, Hank Thompson, Carl Smith, Faron Young, Billy Walker, etc. This is the real deal. Totally loved it.

It took me back to a day when I lived just outside St. Louis and my mother and I were listening to that old green Motorola radio, AM 730, KWRE out of Warrenton, Missouri in the middle 1950s. They played Webb Pierce's "Why Baby Why" and "I Don'y Care" back-to back on a one-hour show dedicated to his music. As soon as I heard the pedal steel kick-off on your song, that's the4 very first thing that came to mind. It was a really great memory - thanks.

And the song is true to the era. This was a real treat! Wishng you the best,

Alan

PS: Glad you're back and posting again!
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 03:17 AM
Excellent from every angle Charlie.

Fantastic lyrics, perfectly describing a sad tale of woes.

Fantastic melody, everything works so well, and delivers the story perfectly.

Fantastic choice of style, I doubt you could have found a better style to sit with the song.

Yep, excellent from every angle.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 08:21 AM
Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Classic!

Charlie, this is really well done! Everything about this "screams" the roots of Country music. Classic use of a steel opening and an underlying fiddle.

The background vocals are...well...classic! Jordanaires-like... the solos fit the genre, perfectly.

Your vocal is terrific. Authentic. Again, the roots of Country.

Good mix. Hard to believe you do all of that in BIAB.

A terrific "sad story write". Well done through and through....

floyd


Thanks Floyd. I feel I almost owe Don Gaynor a co-write. After listening to his fine cover of 'Crazy Arms' in another thread a couple of times, I downloaded his song and ran it through the ACW. It became the foundation of this song. His cover was authentic classic country and was the key to the vibe of this song, providing the authentic length and structure of a classic country song. His great rendition also put me in such a mood for the style that my lyrics literally flowed out in one quick session with the exception of the last line. I struggled with the last line a bit but was determined to write my song to the specific length and structure of his song.

The Jordanaires are an afterthought.... I completed the write and recording so quickly and was playing around with backing vocals to see if I could develop anything additional to add to the song. I initially overlooked muting the channels when I rendered the song. They made my wife laugh so hard when I was checking the playback that I decided to leave them rather than render the song again for publishing... Comic relief I guess...

I'm really enjoying working within Band in a Box for instrumentation. It's giving me a good workflow where I can concentrate on the arrangement and make changes and audition different instruments quickly and without leaving BIAB. Using multiple instruments on the same track has so far rendered excellent crossfades between the instruments. To date, I've not had any conflicts. Using the Stylepicker, I can quickly audition and locate suitable backing rhythm instruments and soloists from other styles. I use the stock PGMusic plug-ins and so far, have not found the need to export tracks to a DAW to improve what I've been able to generate in BIAB.

Thanks for the listen and nice comments.

Charlie

Posted By: tommyad Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 10:12 AM
Wow Charlie! You really captured a sound I remember so well from my youth. Very well written and a truly stunning vocal. A very authentic and well put together song. I enjoyed this immensely, Tom
Posted By: Jim Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 04:13 PM
Good sound. Reminds me of the times when a bunch of musicians would sit, play and make up songs on the spot. One musician would sing a verse, then pass the singing on to another musician and around and around the song would go until everyone got tired of it. Then they would start on another.

The photo Charlie used is not a stock photo. It is a photo of our (maternal) uncle on guitar, Grandmother hidden against the wall on mandolin and Grandfather to the right on 4 string banjo.
Posted By: Torrey Bliss Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 08:43 PM
Charlie, this is old time Country. Your vocal delivery very much reminded me of Hank Sr. The background vocals had a neat vibe to them. Thanks, Torrey
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/14/17 09:36 PM
Originally Posted By: PeterF
Charlie

A cautionary tale well told. Excellent production all round and the song sounds great.
Floyd said it very eloquently - great job.

Peter


Thanks Peter. I appreciate you taking time to listen and comment.

Originally Posted By: 44kfl
yep, this sounds like the real thing

memories of growing up in the South

where this great sound was on every radio station

or so it seemed. I've missed you Charlie

glad you're back around

Kenny


Thanks Kenny. I grew up with this kind of music too. I hoping to get into posting more often. I'm already working on another.

Originally Posted By: RnAM
Charlie,

Now this is truly Country & Western in our book. Our book maybe kind of limited since we're from the Netherlands, but this is the kind of Country music we grew up with.
By the way that Pedal works great!

Rob and Anne-Marie


I'm glad you liked it. I think there are a certain number of us here on the forum who wouldn't mind seeing this genre make a comeback.

Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Charlie,
This sad story makes me feel kind of glad...like I`m sitting in a proper bar listening to a real singer and washing down the music with real ale.
Authentic! I enjoyed your vocals on the last song and this is just as good - with those background voices as a bonus.
Well done,

Robert


Thanks for commenting Robert. You describe a nice backdrop to this beer drinking song.

Originally Posted By: Scott C
Awesome toe tapper Charlie. Excellent vocal. Backtrack was very cool. Steel guitar was excellent


Thanks Scott. Old style songs like this sound best with some good Pedal steel licks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Posted By: rsdean Re: My Sad Story - 05/15/17 07:27 AM
Charlie,

Great song and production. Loved everything about it.

Bob
Posted By: 90 dB Re: My Sad Story - 05/15/17 10:14 AM
Charlie,

You're really channeling Hank there, and doing it well.


Regards,


Bob
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: My Sad Story - 05/15/17 02:05 PM
I feel wrong about this song....because I really like Your Sad Story! smile

First I read the lyrics and thought what many have said, this sounds instantly classic. It's got to be, right? I mean those lyrics just put you there!

But now for the listen...this is going to be a REAL downer...I'm guessing. I'm not against that, just preparing for it.

Your treatment of the lyric with the music was REALLY cool! The feel is what caught me in a BIG way!

It's strange when you hear a song for the first time and it instantly brings you back to a time. Your Sad Story did that for me.

I'm still smiling at the feeling I got! Thanks Charlie. I really enjoyed this!
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/15/17 07:07 PM
Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hi Charlie,

DI's doing some embroidery work soo I'm (Alan) listening by myself. As soon as this started playing, two classic country singers came to mind - Hank, Sr. and Webb Pierce.

This is the music I grew up playing (I'm 70 years old). Webb Pierce, Hank Thompson, Carl Smith, Faron Young, Billy Walker, etc. This is the real deal. Totally loved it.

It took me back to a day when I lived just outside St. Louis and my mother and I were listening to that old green Motorola radio, AM 730, KWRE out of Warrenton, Missouri in the middle 1950s. They played Webb Pierce's "Why Baby Why" and "I Don'y Care" back-to back on a one-hour show dedicated to his music. As soon as I heard the pedal steel kick-off on your song, that's the4 very first thing that came to mind. It was a really great memory - thanks.

And the song is true to the era. This was a real treat! Wishing you the best,

Alan

PS: Glad you're back and posting again!


I have to tell you your comments are very inspiring. I don't know of anything better to hear than reviving old happy memories.

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Excellent from every angle Charlie.

Fantastic lyrics, perfectly describing a sad tale of woes.

Fantastic melody, everything works so well, and delivers the story perfectly.

Fantastic choice of style, I doubt you could have found a better style to sit with the song.

Yep, excellent from every angle.


Thanks for such nice comments. I appreciate them a lot and I'm glad you enjoyed your listen.



Originally Posted By: tommyad
Wow Charlie! You really captured a sound I remember so well from my youth. Very well written and a truly stunning vocal. A very authentic and well put together song. I enjoyed this immensely, Tom


Thanks for taking time to stop by and listen. I'm glad you like it. You are probably as familiar with the genre as anybody so you mentioning it to be authentic means a lot.

Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
Good sound. Reminds me of the times when a bunch of musicians would sit, play and make up songs on the spot. One musician would sing a verse, then pass the singing on to another musician and around and around the song would go until everyone got tired of it. Then they would start on another.

The photo Charlie used is not a stock photo. It is a photo of our (maternal) uncle on guitar, Grandmother hidden against the wall on mandolin and Grandfather to the right on 4 string banjo.


Jim, you're right on both counts. We've sat around for many hours at night listening to this type of music. And yes, you are correct about the picture. I thought there should be something displaying authentic country on the Soundcloud page and that picture fit the bill. Thanks for listening.



Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Charlie, this is old time Country. Your vocal delivery very much reminded me of Hank Sr. The background vocals had a neat vibe to them. Thanks, Torrey


Thanks for your kind remarks. I have so much respect for your musical and singing talent and appreciate your comments so much.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/16/17 08:49 AM
Originally Posted By: rsdean
Charlie,

Great song and production. Loved everything about it.

Bob


Thanks Bob.


Originally Posted By: 90 dB
Charlie,

You're really channeling Hank there, and doing it well.


Regards,


Bob


I appreciate you taking a listen and the nice comments.


Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
I feel wrong about this song....because I really like Your Sad Story! smile

First I read the lyrics and thought what many have said, this sounds instantly classic. It's got to be, right? I mean those lyrics just put you there!

But now for the listen...this is going to be a REAL downer...I'm guessing. I'm not against that, just preparing for it.

Your treatment of the lyric with the music was REALLY cool! The feel is what caught me in a BIG way!

It's strange when you hear a song for the first time and it instantly brings you back to a time. Your Sad Story did that for me.

I'm still smiling at the feeling I got! Thanks Charlie. I really enjoyed this!



I know you like for attempts to be authentic to a genre to be 'authentic'. I am truly pleased to read that I left you with such a good impression and your smile is bringing a huge smile to my face. Thanks for listening and sharing your thoughts.

Charlie
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: My Sad Story - 05/16/17 12:21 PM
Oh yeah! The real deal for sure. From the opening steel to the vocal to the harmonies everything is classic, i.e., good country.

Folks are still living out songs like this...so why the heck do so few write about it any more? Beats me.

To pull this off it took the "right" lyric, melody, arrangement and choice of RT's -- not to mention a great mix.

Outstanding!

J&B
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/16/17 11:40 PM
Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Oh yeah! The real deal for sure. From the opening steel to the vocal to the harmonies everything is classic, i.e., good country.

Folks are still living out songs like this...so why the heck do so few write about it any more? Beats me.

To pull this off it took the "right" lyric, melody, arrangement and choice of RT's -- not to mention a great mix.

Outstanding!

J&B



Old songs like this use to be as common as ticks on a dog. Their time is long gone but I couldn't be happier that it shook the dust off a few nostalgic memories from some of the forum members. I felt this would be one to catch your ear and was anxious to hear your's and Janice's thoughts. Thanks for listening and commenting.

Charlie
Posted By: animarorecords Re: My Sad Story - 05/18/17 03:26 AM
Hello, Charlie

Your vocals, pedal steel, fiddle, everything is great.
Since Japanese radio is never sending country tunes, I can not tell the details about country and western.
However, I felt the real thing in your song.
Very enjoyable listen.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/18/17 04:08 PM
Originally Posted By: animarorecords
Hello, Charlie

Your vocals, pedal steel, fiddle, everything is great.
Since Japanese radio is never sending country tunes, I can not tell the details about country and western.
However, I felt the real thing in your song.
Very enjoyable listen.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi


This is an older style song that has faded from popularity that details an encounter that still happens to people today. A song about a classic mistake in judgement use to be the heart of country music to my mind.

I always appreciate you taking time to share your thoughts and I'm glad you enjoyed your listen.

Charlie
Posted By: gruverider Re: My Sad Story - 05/18/17 07:12 PM
Love the harmonies. And the realtracks.


Well written and a treat to listen to.


much enjoyed!
Posted By: Greg Johnson Re: My Sad Story - 05/18/17 10:02 PM
Many others are far more versed in country music than I am but I love the authentic feel here!! This is just beautifully put together from the write to the production and the mix. Truly stellar!! Take care. Greg
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/19/17 07:53 AM
Originally Posted By: gruverider
Love the harmonies. And the realtracks.


Well written and a treat to listen to.


much enjoyed!



Thanks so much. I appreciate you listening.


Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Many others are far more versed in country music than I am but I love the authentic feel here!! This is just beautifully put together from the write to the production and the mix. Truly stellar!! Take care. Greg


Thanks for your kind comments Greg.

Charlie
Posted By: Noel96 Re: My Sad Story - 05/27/17 12:49 AM
Quote:
I can’t call my wife I can’t go home
I’ve stayed in this bar way too long
There’s no lie that will get me through my front door
So I tell the bartender my sad story
She tells me boy don’t worry
I’ve something in mind to help you pass the time

There’s a motel 6 just down the road
I’ll check us in we’ll be out of the cold
My loving arms will make your dreams come true
There’s a time and a place for everything
Tonight I’m not looking for a wedding ring
It sounded like a plan and I did what I shouldn’t do.

Three days later I finally went home
I pulled in my drive, and everything was gone
Not even my dog was there to keep me company
She had called on her mama and moved out of town
Took the kids, burned the house to the ground
I’m living, dying buried by this, my sad story
Yes, living, dying buried by this, my sad story


Hi Charlie,

I initially listened to this shortly after you first posted it. Since then, I’ve listened numerous times both here and at work. Every time I give the song a run-through, the same thought, “This is a terrific song!”, always passes through my mind.

What appealed me to most was the way you used rhyme to drive your lyrics’ movement. You’ve done it with great skill.

  • Before I talk about that though, I want to say that I’m really impressed with how competently you wrote in AAA. It’s a perfect story telling form and it’s one that I have never used because I can never get it to work as effectively as I’d like. After listening to “My Sad Story”, though, I think that you have given me a ‘leg-up’ with how to make it work. The six-line verses, in 4-4-5-4-4-5 meter, are excellent… just right to accommodate the tale of unfortunate liaisons.

Now on to my thoughts about your use of rhyme…

This really impressed me a lot. Your approach is meticulous in its planning and execution. The way I see it, verse 2 is the one that properly highlights the intended rhyme scheme. This is…

  • perfect rhymes on lines 3 and 6 (true/do)
  • less formal rhymes on lines 1 and 2 (road/cold), and 4 and 5 (everything/wedding ring)

Rhyming line 6 with line 3 (verse 2) with perfect rhyme is ideal for bringing the lyric flow to a full close before the instrumental interlude. Nice!

With lines 1 and 2 in verse 2, the only really noticeable aural relationship is the ‘d’ sound at the end of each word (road, cold). To my ears, this consonance is very effective at creating the grammatical equivalent of a comma. From a rhyming perspective, even though consonance almost passes by without being heard, it creates a sonic relationship. Because this relationship is weak, though, it maintains lyric momentum and keeps the lyrics moving forward.

  • When I read lines 1 and 2 (verse 2) aloud, I could feel this sense of momentum. If I stopped reading at the end of line 2, I felt a slight sense of discomfort in the form of “this can’t be the end, there’s got to be more to come”. Because of this, when I got to the end of line 3, I could feel a sense of relief.

Because ending line 3 (verse 2) with “do” now drives lyric momentum and the listener won’t be aurally satiated until “do” finds a partner, the feminine perfect rhyme between “wedding ring” and “everything” takes a bit of a back seat. To my ears, this rhyme had a very similar feel to the consonance in lines 1 and 2.

When I look at verse 1 from the perspective of verse 2, I see how things were meant to be. I can see and hear the same consonance rhyme between lines 1 and 2 with “home” and “long”. Interestingly, even though the “m” and the “ng” are different sounds and, as such, not really consonance, they belong to the same family of sounds called ‘nasal consonants’ (i.e. n, m, ng). Prof. Pat Pattison calls this ‘home/long’ relationship “family consonance”.

Now line 3 comes along and does it’s job to set up line 6. And lines 4 and 5 follow a similar pattern to lines 1 and 2 by having a minor rhyme in the form of a weak syllable rhyme using the ‘-ry’ sound in “worry” and “story”.

Then comes line 6 and you’ve set it up perfectly for verse closure with the hanging sound of “door” in line 3. All line 6 needs to do is partner that with something like ‘more, galore, store, shore, etc.’. BUT YOU DON’T!!! I repeat, YOU DON’T!!! Instead, you give us a cleverly executed feeling of lyric surprise. This is extremely effective and it’s a genius way of subtly foreshadowing what’s coming in verse 2. By ending verse 1 with an internal assonance rhyme between “mind” and “time”, you leave the listener longing for the rest for the story! At the end of verse 1, there is only an uncomfortable sense of vague closure. Also, the surprise factor that you’ve introduced here is a perfect match for the twist that you bring with verse 2. Lastly, because the rhymes of “mind” and “time” are so close in proximity, you’ve added lyric acceleration to the lyrics' flow and, as a consequence, an increase in momentum and thus an increase in listeners’ expectations.

  • By reading verse 1 out loud, it was very easy for me to hear just how much skill was used in assembling these words. Verse 1 was a major highlight.

In verse 3, we have the same pattern of minor rhymes at the end of lines 1 and 2 and lines 4 and 5. Line 3 also sets up the song’s closure by creating the expectation of a perfect rhyme for “company” or at least the ‘-ny’ sound in “company”. But then you throw surprise back into the mix again by putting “story” in the rhyming position for “company”! This is a masterstroke because the lack of perfect rhyme creates a sense of disquiet and is a perfect prosodic choice for emphasising that this tale is indeed a “sad story”. Repeating the last line of the verse adds emphasis and highlights the hook excellently.

Quite honestly, I marvel at how much attention to detail is on display in these lyrics.

Do you have a fan club? I wouldn’t mind signing up!

All the best,
Noel
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 05/27/17 09:39 AM
Noel, thanks for such a thorough and detailed review. My intention for the song was to present the listener with a nostalgic and familiar feeling when hearing the song. The lyrical scheme was paramount in achieving that nostalgic familiarity.

Reading through forum members posts, I feel I did accomplish my goal as several have commented how the familiar style takes them back in time.

Regarding your first point about the AAA, that is a very common format and rhyme structure from the 50-60’s time period I was trying to capture. This time period was about country moving from the very traditional (at that time) hillbilly/bluegrass sound to a more of a pop feel but country music had not progressed to the lush, Nashville highly produced sound that was coming.

My impetus to write this song came about from listening to Don Gaynor’s excellent cover of the country classic, “Crazy Arms”. He has it posted in another thread here on the forum. Don’s cover is a very authentic and genuine piece that is true to the time period.

In my attempt to replicate a similar but original song that would be true to the time period, I downloaded Don’s cover, ran it through the ACW and then searched the Style picker over Don's cover song chord chart for an authentic sounding style.

Once I had chosen a style I thought was appropriate, I added several more instruments, ( the best style turned out to be a piano style with sparse instrumentation) so additional RealTracks were auditioned and chosen that fit nicely with the style. Then I used F5 to bring the instruments in and out to complete my music track. The music was arranged, recorded and mixed entirely within the BIAB program much like recordings would have been done back during the time period I was attempting to emulate. There is no cutting/pasting or overdubbing. The tracks are arranged using F5 and rendered.

With my song structure complete, my arrangement complete, and my music rendered, I had an authentic musical bed that is structured for AAA lyrics, with an authentic instrument representation, and it is recorded to the authentic length the songs of this time period. Now I’m ready to write my lyrics.

I have two story lines to choose from for my song. Regardless of gender, songs from this era were mostly about pining for a love you don’t have – ie: “Crazy Arms” /”The window up above” or destroying the relationship you are in ie: “Walking the Floor Over You” or “Back Street Affair”. I chose to use the cheating song theme over the unrequited love theme to reduce the influence of possibly copying “Crazy Arms”.

With my framework of music and theme complete, my task is to write lyrics that fit within the structure, song length and time. I created a verse outline of verse one, create a predicament. Verse 2, make the predicament worse. The song structure places either another verse or instrumental break at this point and I chose to use an instrument break. Verse 3, resolve the predicament either to the good or bad.

Using this structure, line 3 of each verse is the pivotal line. It is the movement line that propels my predicament to another direction and tells me what line 6 will be. Using the 4-4-5-4-4-5 meter allowed me to focus on my storyline rather than losing momentum searching for strong rhymes. In my lyrics, line 3 is the only line I truly had to work at and constantly revise as the story progressed through my predicament.

Verse One: Lines 1, 2 establish my predicament which is reinforced by line 3 and sends me to 4-6 setting up making my predicament worse.

Verse Two: Lines 1, 2 establish the potential to worsen my predicament. Again, line 3 reinforces the potential and lines 4-6 lead me to worsen my plight.

Verse 3: Lines 1, 2 show how bad my predicament has evolved. Line 3 reinforces this and sets up the ending – which in my story; I choose to resolve the ending to be bad with no chance of reconciliation.

The story timeline is written so each verse gives the listener a different perspective. For instance, verse one is written in the first person in the present - It is written as if the speaker is sitting in the bar contemplating the predicament he finds himself in.

Verse two, while still written in the present, is purposely gender neutral, either the bartender or the speaker can be speaking in this verse. It's left to the imagination and point of view taken by the listener.

Verse 3 is again the main character, but is written in the past tense so the three verses each have given the listener a different perspective and view of the story.

With such a strong structure and foundation, the lyrics to this song came very quickly. Most of the work was on line 3 of each verse. The hardest part of the song was the last line. I could not find a suitable ending line to the song. That line had to resolve the predicament in a final way. I couldn’t find it; nothing would suitably end my song.

After a few days searching with no success, while at church, listening as the Pastor preached his sermon, he used the phrase “living, dying, buried… “within a sentence. With the words “my sad story” added, I had the ending resolved. I wanted to reinforce “my sad story” by using those particular words so rhyming was more focused on the “eee” sound of story (y) rather than the “neee” sound of company (ny)

Once I had the resolution last line, I was ready to record and finish my song.

Noel, I truly appreciate you providing such a detailed explanation of the mechanics of how my lyrics developed and why they worked. My lyrical focus was developing the storyline and the meter and rhyming were taken from established rules that songwriters of the time period all used so my genuine replication and authenticity all derived from me copying from songs I’ve heard all my life.

I am absolutely thrilled at your kind comments for this song.

Charlie


Posted By: HearToLearn Re: My Sad Story - 06/05/17 11:00 PM
This thread is AWESOME! I really like that we have people here that wrote the song for direct commentary and people who can dissect it from a different perspective.

The song itself and the discussions that occur after the write are what make this forum GREAT!
Posted By: lambada Re: My Sad Story - 06/07/17 09:25 AM
I haven't read all the comments, but I loved this song. Hank Williams Sn lives. Production etc seems great but I have no knowledge of this side of things except my ears. I loved this snippet.
"moved out of town
Took the kids, burned the house to the ground"
Classic
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 06/08/17 02:08 PM
Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
This thread is AWESOME! I really like that we have people here that wrote the song for direct commentary and people who can dissect it from a different perspective.

The song itself and the discussions that occur after the write are what make this forum GREAT!


You're right. It's a great forum and I've learned a lot since joining.

Charlie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 06/08/17 02:10 PM
Originally Posted By: lambada
I haven't read all the comments, but I loved this song. Hank Williams Sn lives. Production etc seems great but I have no knowledge of this side of things except my ears. I loved this snippet.
"moved out of town
Took the kids, burned the house to the ground"
Classic


You've put quite a smile on me. Thanks for taking time to listen and comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the song.

Charlie
Posted By: Deryk - PG Music Re: My Sad Story - 06/08/17 02:26 PM
Amazing song, Charlie. Subject matter, this is a great composition as well. Love the old school country sound on this! A great example of what can be accomplished using Band-in-a-Box. Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 06/09/17 07:05 AM
Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
Amazing song, Charlie. Subject matter, this is a great composition as well. Love the old school country sound on this! A great example of what can be accomplished using Band-in-a-Box. Thanks for sharing!

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Cheers,

Deryk



Thanks so much for stopping by Deryk. I'm glad you enjoyed the song. A lot of thanks for anything I do has to go out to PGMusic. Not only do they provide the vehicle for my musical journey, but through this forum, they are the vessel that allows me to share my music all over the world and be part of a great international family.

Charlie
Posted By: edshaw Re: My Sad Story - 06/11/17 10:18 AM
All good, Charlie. Thanks.

Takes us back to the days before the SOB that runs the trashmill got obsessed with portraying Americans as promiscuous, morally degenerate alcoholics, doing whatever they feel like, without consequences. To the contrary, with reward.
One theory holds that there is so much money flying around the underground heroin economy, the business is going around buying up the legitimate economy, the media being prime real estate.

Yeah, I'm talking about the days of Hank Williams, Porter Waggoner, that era.
Man has fallen, has sinful and depraved nature, but there is an ultimate price to pay for those who don't get right. "My Sad Story" captures that classic country theme.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: My Sad Story - 06/12/17 12:25 AM
Originally Posted By: edshaw
All good, Charlie. Thanks.

Takes us back to the days before the SOB that runs the trashmill got obsessed with portraying Americans as promiscuous, morally degenerate alcoholics, doing whatever they feel like, without consequences. To the contrary, with reward.
One theory holds that there is so much money flying around the underground heroin economy, the business is going around buying up the legitimate economy, the media being prime real estate.

Yeah, I'm talking about the days of Hank Williams, Porter Waggoner, that era.
Man has fallen, has sinful and depraved nature, but there is an ultimate price to pay for those who don't get right. "My Sad Story" captures that classic country theme.


Thanks. I appreciate you taking time to stop by for a listen and comment.

Charlie
Posted By: Jim Re: My Sad Story - 05/28/18 12:47 PM
Great country tune... I enjoyed it
Posted By: F.M.M. Re: My Sad Story - 05/28/18 07:13 PM
hi Charlie well done sir love it great mix everything fit perfect thanks for sharing eric
Posted By: David Snyder Re: My Sad Story - 05/28/18 10:22 PM

Charlie,

Thanks. I have lost my will to live.

But dang that was some old school country right there.

That's the way they used to do it back in the day.
Posted By: axeplayer Re: My Sad Story - 05/31/18 07:56 AM
Very nice Charlie,

The $100 note with "Good Song" on it is on its way to you,
Spend it well, Enjoy
Posted By: JoanneCooper Re: My Sad Story - 05/31/18 09:23 AM
HI Charlie
Looks like I may have missed this one before. Glad to have a chance to listen to it. Enjoyed your sad story very much!
Posted By: dani48 Re: My Sad Story - 05/31/18 03:48 PM
Hi, Charlie !:))


What a superb countrytune !
Surely this must be one of
your best at least in this
genré ! I like it very much !

Cheers
Dani
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