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Posted By: David Snyder Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/15/16 11:08 AM
Whether there is a contest going on or not, I have some user tracks in a drop box folder I could share a link to. I use them as an "easy touch" backing on my stuff and they include soft classical finger picking, and finger picking on an Ovation and a Taylor. If this would be of interest, let me know contest or not and I will share.
Posted By: jford Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/15/16 02:33 PM
Most folks who have created user tracks post them to share to the "User Tracks (and other add-ons)" forum. Look over there and you'll find a whole bunch of them.
Posted By: rodipoet Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/15/16 06:45 PM
Hi David,
fingerpicking guitar and especially classical nylon styles are filling a gap in my collection.
I hope to see/hear your efforts soon.
regards from the netherlands
Rob
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/16/16 09:24 AM
I have wondered if any interest would be generated for User Tracks created from unique and rare instruments. Similar to the sampled piano software suite from Garritan Abbey Road but of course they would be User Tracks of instruments.

In my case, I have a rare,vintage Gibson Double neck guitar. For User Tracks, it provides two different neck configurations, a twelve string neck and a six string neck. Each neck has two PAF humbucker pickups that I learned from my Antiques Roadshow appraisal of the guitar are worth thousands of dollars each were they to be removed and sold separate from the guitar itself. Each neck offers the selection of the bridge pickup, neck pickup and both pickups. The guitar offers six variations of uniquely different tones from each setting.

It would take many hours to develop useful User Tracks and I'm not sure it would be worth the time if no one was interested enough to download and use them. Garritan charges $199 for Abbey Road piano recorded with Abbey Road room ambiance and Abbey Road equipment.

I'm guessing that the prestige of having a recording that uses an actual piano recorded at Abbey Studios is as much if not more of the value of Garritan's product as the actual tone. Most people listening to a recording of the piano will not be able to distinguish the Abbey Road piano from other sampled pianos recorded in a similar fashion unless they are told it is an Abbey Road recorded piano.

I think the uniqueness and prestige of User Tracks created with a rare, vintage Gibson Doubleneck valued at tens of thousands of dollars would be an attractive draw for BIAB users in a similar manner.

My dream of course, is that it would draw such interest that I would get a call from Peter Gannon to strike a deal to have PGMusic create actual RealTracks with it. Now that would be cool. I personally think that a RealTracks set of a instrument that has a documented history and uniqueness would have a similar draw and interest to a featured artist RealTrack set.

Anyone want to share their thoughts?
Posted By: Jim Fogle Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/16/16 04:31 PM
Links pointing to new UserTracks are always welcome.

I believe UserTracks to be an untapped mother lode for users. I believe this so much I started an independent music forum on Yahoo. New members are always welcome.

++ Link to UserTracks group ++

I would enjoy having a spirited discussion on identifying UserTrack limitations and how limitations can be overcome.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/16/16 10:56 PM
yes please post your tracks - there are user tracks and drums on http://www.realband.org/ - the drum making tutorials are helpful - there is a list with all the current user tracks in you can download.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/16/16 11:01 PM
"I would enjoy having a spirited discussion on identifying UserTrack limitations and how limitations can be overcome."

so what are the limitations 3/4, holds, shots and over transposing ?
hopefully they are working on them now ?

*** also pickup notes, count ins, intros for bars -1 & 0
Posted By: Jim Fogle Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/17/16 10:40 PM
Pipeline,

Thanks for listing the limitations known so far. Like everyone I will be glad when fixes are released in an update.

Transposing is one area that I think is ripe for experimentation. My thought is transposing is affected by two values, duration and complexity. If you take one bar of sound I think a whole note will transpose better than four quarter notes. I also think single notes or simple chords will transpose better than a complex chord. I haven't investigated my thought though.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Are User Tracks Still Wanted? - 03/17/16 11:47 PM
yes, I find the main problem is it's transposing when there is no need to, like during rhythm it plays the same rhythm an octave up or down that throws you off, also on beat 3-4 of a chord.
It's understandable to transpose solo playing to give a lot more playing over different chords.
The only way to get better user tracks and less transposing is more playing not just the standard template that pg supply, like 1min 10min is nothing when you compare it to the amount in real tracks.
I think once they get all the problems ironed out you might get 3rd party user tracks as they will be competitive with real tracks.
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