Why does it sometimes not allow you to change the number of bars per page shown in notation view? It seems to happen after you copy and past some of the bars. It gets stuck on 2 bars per page and won't change.

You should be able to change it with the following option. Does that not work?

It is not working.

https://youtu.be/uXEblz2xjfY

I can see and definitely agree that it's not working for you.

I tried to create the same situation as you, with the same style, edit mode, clean mode, mono mode, etc.

How did you create the Melody?

It's working for me:
Anybody?

This control is working correctly for me also. What version of BIAB, and what build, are you using? Do Help, About to see this.

I'm using Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Version 2018 (504)

I opened a new file and entered the notes by hand -- by clicking on the staff lines with my mouse. The third bar is the same as the first, so I used "copy - special" to copy the first bar to bar 3. After that it wouldn't let me change the number of bars per page. Closing the file and re-opening it doesn't help.

Lesley,

Go to the below link and download and manually install update 508. This may solve your problem.

http://www.pgmusic.com/support.htm

To install...

1. Right-click on the exe file.

2. Select 'Run as administrator'

3. Check that the \bb and \Realband baths are correct when you get to that part of the installation.

4. Install.

BIAB needs to be closed for updating.

Once updated, it's necessary to enter into Stylepicker so that the Styles can be updated.

Regards,
Noel

I did what you said, Noel, but it still won't change the number of bars in that song. Maybe I could send the file to one of you, to see if it works for you?

Upgrade to Build 508 and try.

Lesley,

I've sent you a private message with my email address so that you can send the file.

Once I get it, I'll see if I can work out what might be the issue.

Regards,
Noel

Hi Lesley,

Thank you for sending the file. It helped a great deal.

The problem arises because you have a part marker every two bars and BIAB is set to break to a new line when part markers are involved.

This is normal behaviour and can be verified by deactivating the "New line for every section" found in "Display Options" (see graphic below).

To get more bars viewed on the screen while keeping the "New line for every section active", one approach would be to...

1. When the part markers are in place at every two bars, generate the song.

2. Now freeze all tracks.

3. Remove the blue part markers, except for bar 1 which is always present.

Because the tracks are frozen after generation and before the part markers are removed, the part markers will still play even though they are not present on the score.

Regards,
Noel

Thanks Noel for the update.

I guess in hindsight that this would have a been a good one to have had a screen capture of the chord sheet as well.

Thanks again for the detective work!

Ok, thanks, Noel. I made the change in options, and now it lets me change the number of bars per page.

I didn't mean to put the sections in. I wonder if the section marker got copied when I copied bar 1 to bar 3.

Yes. That's catches me out from time to time, too. Section markers are usually copied.

While it's possible to use "Edit | Copy Special | Copy from... to..." and deactivate 'Bar Settings' to avoid copying section markers, I find it is often quicker just to copy everything, part markers included, and then just remove the part markers.

Glad you're up and running now!

Regards,
Noel

Thanks!
Are section markers what you need if the key changed in the middle of the song?

I just upgraded so now it is 508. Good to know what that number is. Do they send out a message when new upgrades come online?

I wonder if they will fix the problem of the played note not turning red in lead sheet or fake sheet view.

All new updates to BIAB are announced at the top of the BIAB for PC or BIAB for Mac user forums as appropriate. They are always a sticky post (they stay at the top).

As to this, you should start a new thread: problem of the played note not turning red in lead sheet or fake sheet view.

No. To change the key, select the bar and press Function key F5 (or right-click the bar), then change the key using the Bar Settings dialog:

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Part marker and key changes are independent, but there is a good reason to use them together. One of the things the part marker does is call for a fill in the measure before. It usually sounds good, and appropriate for a key change.

I am trying to enter the notes for a song that has a has a fill between key changes. Is there some way to indicate that the notes are a fill, and not to be played or sung? (I am making a "play along"). And is there a way of independently controlling the volume of the notes in the fill?

Another question. The part of the song after the fill is the same as the irst part of the song. If I copy the first part of the song into the second part, will it be transposed when I change the key? I want it to be transposed.

This forum has amazingly helpful people. I am so grateful.

1. You could use a text box to enter some text like "not sung" or "instrumental".

2. The volume of the notes is controlled by velocity. There are a few ways to change this. If there aren't too many notes, the easiest way is via right-click on the note head and select "Edit Note" when in Notation Editor.... once there, just set the velocity to (say) 70, if the velocity is set to 90.



Copy the notes first using "Edit | Copy Special | Copy from... to...", then transpose using 'Edit | Transpose | Transpose from... to..." and, lastly, add the key change.

Regards,
Noel

• a BIAB song I co-wrote with Steve Young: One More Day

Ok, Noel, I copied the music and transposed it. How do I add the new key signature in the middle of the music?

Click on the bar where the key change occurs and press F5 (Bar Settings) to set the new key. (See Videotrack's graphic above.)

That should do the job for you.

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I am trying to enter the notes for a song that has a has a fill between key changes. Is there some way to indicate that the notes are a fill, and not to be played or sung? (I am making a "play along").
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....Not sure I understand.

BiaB creates the fill notes when you press "generate," but only in the bass, piano, drums, guitar and strings tracks. BiaB does not create anything in the Melody or Soloist tracks.

If are entering the notes for a song in the Melody or Soloist channels, BiaB will not enter the notes of the fill.

If you are entering notes in another channel, freeze it first. Write whatever you want. Take out the fill notes if you like. Freezing will prevent BiaB from changing what you wrote.

What would be the purpose of having fill notes marked "Do Not Play?"


This forum has amazingly helpful people. I am so grateful.

You got that right! It would be a good idea to experiment with Noel's advice. Its a very useful tool.

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Right. Thanks Noel, that worked-- the key changed from C to D and then to Eb.

I had to go back and add the bars for the fill, and I think parts markers (caused from copying) are causing problems. How do you delete them?

I'm trying to make it look like the sheet music I am copying it from, so I can play along with it.

To delete part markers...

... simply click on the bar number until there is no part marker.

For example
One click on a bar number without part markers will add a blue part marker to that bar.

A second click on the bar number now enclosed in a blue box will turn the part marker to a green one.

A third click on the bar number now enclosed in a green box will remove the part marker (unless it's a style that has more than two part markers available).

Now I'm wondering if I am not dealing with a parts marker. Clicking on the bar number doesn't seem to do anything. There is a red square outline around the bar number in notation mode. Does that indicate a parts marker?

In the chord mode there is a red line under the bar number. When I click on the number in chord view the box around the number changes colour, as you say, but I can't get he red underline to go away no matter how many times I click it.


On another question, is there anyway to make some of the notes smaller, about the size of grace notes? I want all the notes for several bars to be that size. This is what the notes on the "fill" are like on the music I am copying from.

Thank you!

The red underline indicates a Bar Setting (Function Key F5) is in place.

The Part Markers are demonstrated here on bars 2, 6 & 10. Each time a part marker is clicked the next available part marker type is selected, usually in this order:
- No Part Marker,
- a: Blue: Part marker type 1,
- b: Green: Part marker 2