Are there any helpful, comprehensive tutorials or courses (free or paid) about creating a "good" song with BiaB? (or, more specifically, leading someone on that path)

I know there's no "Holy Grail" of churning out great song after great song, but I would appreciate...something like a songwriting course employing BiaB as a main tool. It's unlikely that there's anything out there that fits that description, but perhaps that gives a good idea of what I'm looking for.

I'm familiar with basic music theory. I played violin for a few years and attempted to learn guitar and keyboard several times, as well as studying basic music theory to a decent extent.

I'm by no means much of a musician, only a very interested hobbyist. My passion for the last ten years has been learning to sing and I'd like to try my hand at writing some original songs.

I've scoured the forum for suggestions. I found links to the Berklee College of Music free courses (I'm signing up for music production) and Groove3 (haven't explored options there yet).

I'm sure that many of you are already music "experts" to varying degrees already and can experiment with BiaB to find what they are looking for, but surely there are many of us without that kind of musical knowledge who would benefit greatly from this type of course I have in mind.

Surely those that have worked with BiaB for a while have developed systems they use to create their songs.

Suggestions are much appreciated!

Groove 3 as mentioned will be an excellent starting point.

There are also many other 'How To' tutorials from PG Music at this link.

Also, Videos at this link

ThanX for the links...I've been going through the videos, but they are mostly just the technical side of BiaB.

I didn't know about the 'How To' tutorials; those will help, but they are again mostly technical. I did like the one on how to add an interesting bassline using the soloist, and this is more of what I'm looking for.

I'm looking for something more on the creative side, though, showing the process of creating a somewhat complex song from beginning to end, including how to refine that song from a creative viewpoint. I know that a writer's creativity can't really be taught, but hearing their process along the way would be a great framework to experiment with my own creativity.

I suggest you review some of the topics in the Songwriting Forum and look for posts by Joanne Cooper and Noel96 as they both have posted many comments regarding the creative side of BB. That's not meant to slight others but both Joanne and Noel have focused a lot of attention on newcomer's questions. Joanne writes a Blog on a regular basis that focus's on BB and RealBand as creative tools and provides tips, techniques and tutorials.

After searching the ENTIRE World Wide Web in less than an hour (!!!), here is the only candidate that I have come up with:

https://www.joannecooper.co.za/online-courses

It looks decent and for $10 it can't be a bad deal. There is also "unlimited support" from the course leader.

Any other suggestions greatly appreciated!

Thank you Charlie. As noted above, I've already found Joanne Cooper on the web. (Actually, when I made that post, it stated that a moderator had to review and approve my account...so it's not yet posted.)

I will search for her and Noel96's posts as you recommend!

Just type in Joanne Cooper and then hit enter or return

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then you will have a link to the stuff by


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Aha! I was searching the forum, which yielded a few results for Joanne...but this search opens up a lot of material. Thank you!

Here are some other interesting links I've discovered when searching for Joanne and Noel's forum posts:

https://www.secretsofsongwriting.com/ (will pick up his ebooks)
https://www.hooktheory.com/ (bought there first "book" already; great so far!)
https://www.coursera.org/berklee (free berklee school of music courses)
https://www.musical-u.com/ (linked to one of Joanne's articles; looks interesting)
https://www.joannecooper.co.za/online-courses (found previously & purchased)
https://mysongcoach.teachable.com/p/great-song-lyrics (will be getting this)

Joanne's course looks like it will fill my original requirements; now I just need to learn & re-learn theory and lyric writing. I've tried so many times to write lyrics, but never even came up with an idea that inspired me.

A couple of years ago there used to be Video Tutorial PAKs available from PG Music including "Songwriting with Band-in-a-Box" by Oliver Gannon. These tutorials were quite helpful as a jumpstart to using BiaB for songwriting purposes.

Unfortunately I currently don't see these Tutorial PAKs any longer on the PG Music website.

Maybe you could find them on third parties sites.