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Hi All,

Josie and I wanted to share our latest song and video. This song is called "Radio Days" and is comprised of all RT's and was mixed in GarageBand '11.

Thanks for listening

Song: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10638138

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBmRa6jgN3M

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"Radio Days"
Copyright © 2011 Josie Beck, Robert Dean

Perfect sky summer afternoons
Transistor nights in my old room
Feel the music and be led away
Ummm play it over again
 
Chorus:
Too young to rock radio days
Too old to stop radio days
Dialing out the morning haze
 
Endless hours and window panes
Waiting to fly in the fast lane
Traffic lights - who'll race the moon
Ummm play it over again
 
Chorus/break
 
Falling fast at the speed of light
High on you and out of sight
Heard our song spinning slow tonight
Ummm play it over again
 
Chorus/Chorus/end

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Unfreakin believeable- I had a whole post typed up and the board threw an error. That gets me so pissed. Anyway...

I like this track a whole lot! The BGV are very good and very creative. The lyrics are first rate, as always. I have two observations on this one. First, I listened to this one the first time with no lyrics- just listening. A number of lines were unintelligable for me. I watched the video second- nice video- and it has lyrics. That helped me when I listened again without them a second time. But the first 'blind' listen- it was hard to pull out a number of lyrical lines.

Second is much more subjective. I felt it could use a bridge that took the music in one other direction, and then find it's way back to the main chord structure. It's a nice chord passage- very pleasant & catchy. But a left turn in there somewhere could add interest and contrast.

I really think this a great track- perhaps the most ambitious one yet from 'the duo'! Very good song and nice video too. Keep up the hits!

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Hi Josie & Bob,

This is the best song that you have done together (in my opinion)

Bob, I would bring your vocals just a little bit more up-front as you have a nice voice.

Josie, I just love how you cut "Radio Day" short, it makes it standout.

Well done to both of you.

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Clearly a lot of work went into this one, particularly in the vocal accompaniment. They deliver some variety in what would otherwise be a slightly one-paced piece.

The video is very cleverly conceived and put together too.
Technical question – what software did you use to make the video?

There is something I find troubling about the backing gtrs sound – right there on the intro. Maybe too much of an effect, which is making the sound cloudy. On the other hand I like the short clean gtr phrases.

Lyrically reminds me very much of ‘Yesterday, once more’.

All the best

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Dan,

Thanks for listening and your comments - "unintelligable", maybe it's my vocal and phrasing - I am a bit of an acquired taste in that department...

Again, thanks for your thoughts - Josie and I appreciate it.

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George,

Thank you for listening and for your kind words/comments. Josie and I are really glad you enjoyed the song and appreciate the support.

Bob

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Marc,

Thanks for your thoughts. We used an electric guitar track to support the rhythm on this one. The overall mix was a bit complex for this song and we went through several before selecting this one.

The video was built in iMovie '11. A lot of nice features with this media package.

Again, thanks - Josie and I appreciate the feedback and kind words.

Bob

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Hi Bob and Josie,

It's yet another "wow" from me. You guys are fast becoming a marathon songwriting team. Your work is exceptionally consistent and always enjoyable to listen to. I admire your skills on all fronts - writing, arranging, vocals (foreground and background) and mixing.

All the best,
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Nice song guys, as usual!
I loved the vocals although it seemed to me the key was a tad low for you Bob and your best timbre wasn't coming through. A compromise m/f key perhaps?
Also, my head was hearing a guitar solo between 2:07-2:30 which would have perked things up in what is otherwise a bit of a flat spot, what do you think?
Did you master it all? The level seemed low and I think some compression, limiting and high end EQ would give things more punch and sparkle.
Please don't think I'm being too critical - you know I'm a fan and I still really enjoyed this track!

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Noel/John,

Thanks for listening and for your comments. Josie and I really appreciate it. We have remastered the song and think the quality of this new version is much better.

The Soundclick link is the same, but we had to replace the video link - the new one is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnadgTgS-M8

Thanks again everyone for your comments.

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Bob & Josie,

Once again, I like this one! You guys are on a roll! I like the feel of this one. And a very fine job on the background vocals! Keep it up!

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Steve,

Thanks - we appreciate that!

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Hey Ya'll,
I want to chime in here and say thank you for listening and the thoughtful and helpful comments. Dan, Michee, Marc, Noel, John, Steve - your ears and time are so very much appreciated!

This is my favorite song we've done so far - because I grew up glued to the radio and because it's the new baby. LOL. What can I say, love the vibe of it - takes me back to the "it's got a good beat and you can dance to it" days.

We thought about a bridge but decided to go with the harmonies to give it a little twist of variety spice there without losing the flow. I Ilke bridges but sometimes in an effort to be different they can throw the vibe of the song off - so that was a subjective choice.

The distorted guitar was well - interesting - to deal with for a couple of relatively unseasoned mixers. I think the new mastered version really makes it jam.

Anyway, on behalf of my partner in rhyme, Bob and myself. Thank you!

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So the link is now to a newer version? I think it's sounding better- hope it's not just my ears playing tricks on me! What rate is this mp3 Josie? Is the link for sound click the highest rate mp3? I ask because it seems a bit warbly, like a lower rate mp3. Try and never go below 160kbs. Even 128 is not good and any lower like 96 is unacceptable. 160 and higher is the target. If sound click is limiting you then find another site. And if your mp3 version sounds much better than the uploaded one on sound click, they are encoding it very low-fi and that's a no-no from them too.

But I do like this song a bunch too!

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Hey Dan,

Thanks for the heads up but must've been a SC glitch. I did get an error when I went to check so they could be having issues tonight. I went back and triple checked and I hear some SC hiss that's not on the original mp3 but no warbling. The same mp3 on Bob's site - http://www.robertdeanwordsandmusic.com - is cleaner and the same mp3 is on the youtube video. Not hearing any warbling.

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It’s all been said. Great job on a great song!

All I can add is “SugerLand” you’ve got some serious competition!


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Hey Mario,

Thanks for the great compliment. Josie and I appreciate that.

Bob

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I have liked every one you guys have done together - but they do just keep getting better all the time.

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Thanks for sharing a part of you.

I really liked this song. Man the people in the forum are good... makes me want to hang up my limited song writing skills and start a flower shop... "I'm not worthy"

I really enjoyed this piece of work... thank you...

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Powderman & Paul,

Thanks very much for listening and commenting. Josie and I appreciate the kind words and support.

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Bob and Josie,
Great song! I particularly liked the backing vocals. Also the subject of the song hit home with me. I sure remember listening to my old transistor radio and loving every minute. Thanks for sharing.

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Quote:

Hey Dan,

Thanks for the heads up but must've been a SC glitch. I did get an error when I went to check so they could be having issues tonight. I went back and triple checked and I hear some SC hiss that's not on the original mp3 but no warbling. The same mp3 on Bob's site - http://www.robertdeanwordsandmusic.com - is cleaner and the same mp3 is on the youtube video. Not hearing any warbling.



Guess it was a glitch. Sounds the same on SC and Bob's site- but I think Bob's site is a bit better sound quality actually. Close call on that. Congrats- great song!

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SpaceDog,

Thanks. We are very glad you enjoyed the song and appreciate your comments.

Dan,

We thank you again for the comments and support. I do believe SC adds a bit of compression and from what I can hear, youtube adds even more.

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You tube is a tough one. When you make a vid with audio, when rendering in your movie editor be sure to make the audio the best quality you can with the render. It won't add all that much to the file size and will help greatly.

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Thanks again Dan!

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Bob/Josie -

Just have to I loved the song. The video images brought back some good memories of artists and albums I've always loved.

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John,

Thanks so much - Josie and I really appreciate that. The video was a lot of fun to put together.

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Nice work, as usual. In particular, I thought the chorus was strong.

There's something about the mix that's bugging me. I thought it might be my ears (I've got an ear infection), but I've listened through speakers and headphones, and it sounds like there's a lot of lossy compression, especially with phasing on the drums. It lacks crispness and punch - Marc used the word "cloudy", and I think that's right.

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Thank you David. I'm glad you enjoyed the song.

I have to disagree on the mix. Number one if it was that bad, I wouldn't have let Bob post it. The first mix was a little muddy and we removed it and this second one is much clearer.

And this is not just directed at your comment David. I don't believe I've suddenly gone tone deaf.

So if anyone else wants to comment on the mix. I would ask you to be specific as to exactly where you are hearing what because I'm not hearing it.

The mix is not perfect - nobody claimed it is but it's not as bad as some of the comments on here are implying.

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It doesn't come down to the mix being bad. I've had quite a number of listens to this track because I like the song. I can hum the melody no problem! THAT is an idication of a good song! Everything else, such as mix things, comes down to a work in progress and a learning experience every time for ALL of us. If you're asking for anything specific Josie, I have what I'm hearing narrowed down to the lead vocal. The music bed sounds fine when there is no vocal. The BGV's sound fine. The lead vocal sounds like there may have been some heavier eq'ing choices- perhaps to try and brighten or unmuddy the vocal in some way. Perhaps some deep cuts or big boosts at certain frequencies were applied. Without knowing anything that was done, I'm just guessing it might be an ambiance effect such as a room or reverb, the eq of that effect, and/or the eq of the vocal itself. Maybe if compression was appiled, it's amplifying it but I'm not picking up on vocal compression. Perhaps you have it applied lightly or just not there at all. But it for sure comes down to the lead vocal and something is causing it to sound phased or comb filtered. Eq'ing in certain ways will bring on phasing issues, and recording the vocal in certain spots in a room, such as too close to a wall[s] or something, will bring on comb filtering- another sort of phasey sound. Whatever the case may be, it's the lead vocal and as far as I can hear after easily, 10 listens now, it's only the lead vocal.

I only bring it up so maybe it will help your ear to zero in on the sound and recognize it. I've never heard any of Bob's leads sound like that on other tracks, so it's probably what I mention or a culmination of things in the mix contributing to it. Also, this kind of thing can happen when just one overall eq is applied to the stereo mix to try and slant the bass or high freq's a certain way. But is it ruining things? Certainly not. I don't listen to tracks past one time if it's truly unlistenable, and I don't bother to try and help get to the bottom of something if I don't think the people on the other end are capable of 'getting' it or caring in the first place. So you ask, I mention! LOL! One thing to try with future mixes is to bring up vocals right away when you start. Mix bass, and drums AROUND and in conjunction with the vocals right away. Too often vocals are a last thought, or the last faders to be brought up. That makes carving a spot for vocals very very tough and there's usually lots of compromises to be made at that point. So it's something to consider trying.

All this crap though- it's just ongoing conversation about sound. The bottom line is always the song. Anybody can make sounds and comment about sounds. Few can nail the writing of great songs even worth listening to how they sound. You two, both collectively and on your own, write FIRST RATE songs. No doubt! And with every single mix, they sound better and better. Keep up the GREAT work!

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Hey Dan,

Thank you. I've had a eureka ah-ha moment after that most excellent explanation, I can hear what you're talking about. So can Bob. And after this ear awakening moment we of course think now - well crap why didn't we hear that before. LOL.

We'll either fix it or Bob just got a new Blue mic that sounds really good on his voice and he'll re-sing the track.

This has been quite frustrating, so thank you so much for hanging in there with us until we got what you're saying.

And David, you are right there was still a problem with the track you heard - we just weren't focused on the same problem.

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Love the song as usual. Music is well balanced and backup vocals well placed too.
I can understand why some are calling it cloudy or not crisp, maybe lacking presence, but I just think before I can comment on the sound of the lead vocal, it needs to be much louder.
I like to have the vocal way up. To me it's the most impotent part of the song to me. EQ and or Comp it after you have it loud enough so you can hear every word clearly. I find the song's mix well balanced but I'm straining to hear what Dean is singing.
Just my opinion. I like his voice a lot and it's just too low for me to enjoy it.
Hope this helps and doesn't hurt.

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As Dan said so well, none of this really detracts from the song in a major way. And I'm sorry I used the word "mix", because I don't think that it was helpful. The bulk of my comment talked about the sound only because I was trying to detail what I was hearing - not because it was the most important bit!

And I should add a big thanks for consistently being on be "bleeding edge" and showing what can be done with BiaB. You're not the only ones, but it's certainly an inspiration to hear what the two of you are doing.

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Wayne,

Thanks very much. We appreciate your feedback.

Dan/David,

As always, thanks for the feedback and advice. Josie and I appreciate it. We're getting there with this one. Stay tuned, we'll have a new version up soon. Hope you'll come back and listen to it.

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Thanks again to everyone that commented and provided feedback. We have cut a new version with hopefully better mixing/mastering. If you have a moment, please give it a listen.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10638138

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Call it done- sounds good!

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Hey Dan,

Thanks for coming back for another listen. We appreciate your support on this.

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