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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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If you are using Band-in-a-Box or RealBand with ASIO, please post your results here. We're looking to start a database of user experiences. There are a lot of different ASIO drivers, and audio interfaces out there, so we want to know which ones are causing problems (with which programs, OS's, and drivers).
Please list in the following format:
Program(s): e.g. Band-in-a-Box 2011, e.g. RealBand 2011
OS: e.g. Windows 7
ASIO Driver: e.g. ASIO4All, e.g. m-Audio FastTrack
Audio Interface: e.g. built in soundcard on PC, e.g. m-Audio Fast Track,
Results: e.g. Problems Encountered etc.
PLease stay on topic in this thread, it is just to summarize your results. It should be useful as a resource for users, and also for our support staff.
Here is a sample entry:
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows 7/64 bit
ASIO Driver: ASIO4All
Audio Interface: built in soundcard on PC
Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 10ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO).
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Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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Joined: Feb 2008
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows XP SP3
ASIO Driver: Echo ASIO driver, ASIO4All
Audio Interface: Echo Indigo IO Cardbus
Results: Works well. ASIO4All works fine. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 10ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO). However the echo ASIO driver doesn't work. No matter what settings I try it still gives an intermitent and distorted output. I'd love to see a fix from either PGMusic or echo, wherever the problem lies.
BiaB 2013 b366, RB 2013 b4, WinXP Pro SP3, Toshiba M70, 1.8GHz 2GB RAM 100GB HD. Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, Ketron SD2. BiaB Wiki
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011, RealBand 2011
OS: Windows 7 HP SP1 64-bit
ASIO Driver: M-Audio ASIO driver 5.10.0.5074
Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496 PCI
Results: Works well.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Hi Peter,
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011 (Both up to date with latest versions)
OS: Windows 7/64 bit
ASIO Driver: Focusrite USB ASIO Driver
Audio Interface: Focusrite Saffire 6 USB
Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 10ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO). NOTE: You have to use the same USB Port that the Focusrite was first installed. If you change the USB Port you have to reinstall the Driver for the new Port.
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Best regards
George
Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2023 1006, Realband 2023 (1)
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 413
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Programs: Biab 2011, Realband2011
Os: win 7 sp1 64bit / winxp sp3 32bit
Asiodriver: Audiotrak Maya 1010 1.07 64bit/ tried xp drivers, switched to asio4all
Audiointerface: Audiotrak Maya 1010 PCI
Results: works fine in win7 / did not work under winxp, had to use asio4all
Rob de Klerk, Dutch singer-songwriter https://www.robdeklerk.nlBiab 2023, Cakewalk, N.I. Komplete 14, Win 10,64, Ozone 9 elements suite, Presonus studio 24c
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: May 2003
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011 OS: XP SP3 ASIO Driver: Third party--Native ASIO driver for AC'97 compatible Audio Controllers http://members.home.nl/nahutec/AC97ASIO/ac97asio.htmAudio Interface: built in soundcard on PC ASIO Driver: Third party--KX Project drivers for Creative cards Audio Interface:Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 4ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO). Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011 OS: Win 7 x64 ASIO Driver: Third party--KX Project drivers for Creative cards Audio Interface:Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 4ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO). PS I don't use ASIO at all though as I don't need it.
Last edited by silvertones; 06/09/11 05:21 AM.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Jan 2011
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Program Band-in-a-Box 2011 everything pack upgrade from 2004 Mega Pack
OS: Windows XP sp1
ASIO Driver: 5.10.00.3516 m-Audio Mobile Pre USB
Audio Interface: m-Audio Mobile Pre USB
Results: Everything Works Perfect
I can use 2 programs at once ,but not if biab is one of them. Just tried Cool Edit and Wave Lab together and they work just fine. Never needed 2 programs opened at once to notice before.
Never tried Real Band
P4 3.0 gig 3.0 gig ram
Last edited by Tommyc; 06/08/11 05:57 AM.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,161
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Programs: BIAB 2011,RealBand 2011, PTW 2011.
OS: Windows 7 Home Edition
ASIO Driver: Creative
Audio Interface: Creative X-Fi Titanium Soundcard.
Results: Works OK and can support more than one device at a time. I use Creative and VSampler together.
ASIO Driver in this edition is superior to previous versions.
My problem with the Soundcard is with the MME driver "What You Hear" which does not appear to record at 44.1k.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 366
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011, build 317 -- and RealBand 2011, build 4
OS: Windows XP, SP3, Pentium 4, 2.8GHz
ASIO Driver: M-Audio Drivers
Audio Interface: M-Audio 2496 PCI Card
Results: ASIO sputters and clicks for me in BIAB 2011. It worked fine until V. 2011. Had to switch to MME. No problems encountered with MME drivers in BIAB 2011. Can drive CPU to 80% with no problems with MME. ASIO starts sputtering and clicking at 40% -- ASIO works fine in RealBand. Latency is about 12ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO).
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 165
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Programs: Band In A box
OS: Windows XP sp3
Asio drivers Presonus Fire Studio Project3.5.5.10705
or MME
Latency 46 ms with ASIO or 107 with MME
VST: Cakewalk TTS
Performance: Very good and can run several other audio programs simultaneously including Sonar, runs Garritan JBB3 within BIAB. Rendering audio seems slower than expected. Drag and drop works fine.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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If it's any help, after a huge effort to make the ASIO and asio for all thing work, I vowed to never tough the thing again. And that was with 2 version, as in XP and Vista.
I think I don't need to try again, everything is working perfectly, and I actually have NO need for ASIO, my gear goes to the mixer, and band in a box does too. I have no need to try and play my ketron with my keyboard, it's great on it's own.
And I'm having too much fun, it must be illegal.
John Conley
Musica est vita
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011 latest patches
OS: Windows XP SP3
ASIO Driver: M-Audio driver for delta 24/96 PCI card
Audio Interface: Delta 24/96 PCI card
Results: Works well. ASIO works fine with the exception of CPU usage. I uses a bit more that MME, but is still very stable. Can't use but one program at a time with ASIO as usual
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows XP SP3
ASIO Driver: M-Audio Delta drivers, also have used ASIO4All
Audio Interface: M-Audio AP-2496
Results: M-Audio drivers Work well. ASIO4All works fine. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 10ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO).
--Mac
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and, infrequently, RealBand 2011 OS: W7x64 ASIO Driver: W7x64 Beta Driver 6.0.1.1246 Audio Interface: E-MU 161PCI Results:  In BIAB - No apparent latency, perfect.  In Real Band (I just tried this now and did a little tweaking, but don't use RB much) - Typical latency, about 200 ms. Fiddled, no joy. Selected ASIO Direct Monitor and got feedback zap.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 32
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows 7 Pro SP1 (Dell laptop)
ASIO Driver: Echo ASIO driver, ASIO4All
Audio Interface: Echo Indigo IO Cardbus
Results: Neither driver works. I'd ALSO love to see a fix from either PGMusic or Echo, wherever the problem lies.
Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows 7 Pro SP1 (clone AMD desktop)
ASIO Driver: M-Audio ASIO driver, ASIO4All
Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta 2496 PCI card
Results: Both ASIO drivers work fine.
On both my machines, I now use MME for BIAB (2011), and ASIO versions for Forte Ensemble, my VSTi input. In Forte, the ASIO drivers work well. Using this combination is very satisfying.
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Joined: Dec 2007
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011 (Both up to date with latest versions)
OS: Windows 7/64 bit
ASIO Driver: MOTU PCI-424 ASIO Driver
Audio Interface: MOTU 2408 mkIII
Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is 1ms @ 32 samples per buffer. I can use Bandinobox as a base and Kontakt 4 for soloing in the same time without any problem
Sergino
Bandinabox 2024 standard (2020 Audiophile)
VST3 plugins on Studio One Pro 6.1
Windows 11(SSD) - AMD Radeon R9 5950X - 32GB RAM
MOTU: 2408 MkIII - 24i - Traveler - MIDI Express XT
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Program: Band-in-a-Box 2011
OS: Windows XP Sp3
ASIO Driver: RME Asio Drivers
Audio Interface: RME Hammerfall Multiface 2 (with PCIe card)
Results: Absolutely perfect, Latency below 1ms
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 (build 318)
OS: Windows XP Pro (SP3)
ASIO Drivers: Delta v5.10.0.5069-------TonePort UX2 v4.2.4.4
Audio Interfaces: M-Audio Delta 66 PCI/Line 6 TonePort UX2 USB
Results: Works rather well. No problems encountered. Latency is usually less than 10ms and sometimes as low as as 3ms. Cannot use more than one ASIO program at once (as expected with ASIO). In cases, where I am using BIAB 2011 in "DAW Plugin" mode I set it to use the Line UX 2 ASIO and my main DAW apps (REAPER & SONAR X1) use the Delta 66 in ASIO. This allows me to drag and drop directly from BIAB to my DAW's timeline.
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Program: Band-in-a-Box 2011, Read Band 2011
OS: Windows 7 SP1
ASIO Driver: M-Audio USB ASIO
Audio Interface: M-Audio Fast Track Pro
Results: Occasional crash on BIAB or RB startup. ASIO driver not supported message. The rest of the time it works flawlessly with low latency. When I use BIAB DAW plugin, I change BIAB to MME with good results.
John
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Program(s): Band-in-a-Box 2011 and RealBand 2011
OS: Windows 7/64 bit
ASIO Driver: Edirol FA-66 ver. 1.0 64bit Windows 7
Audio Interface: Edirol FA-66
Results: Works well. No problems encountered. Latency is less than 10ms. I can use more than one ASIO program with this driver. I can play iTunes, Sonar, BIAB at the same time.
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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