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#119047 - 07/06/11 10:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: jazzwombat]
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That's $3k, people. And doesn't include the recommended software. Nuendo has some of the best automation out there--for $1500 to $2000 by itself. Naturally, you'll want a machine worthy of that, so there's another $2k to $3k, plus dual high-resolution monitors. And, of course, a multitrack interface and control surface--say $3500. Oh, wait--now you'll want 5.1 surround, too. Multiple speakers x4 plus a sub. Hmmm . . . since I don't have an ideal space to record in, I'll be wanting IK Media room-correction software and a reference mic, too. Do the maths.

I know. I have a close friend who has all of the above and even lets me play with it from time to time. What does he do with it? We don't even have a name for it. (I call it "acid Dixieland," code for 100% improvisation from individuals with varying degrees of talent and ability.)

Look, you can spend anything you want to at this. I think the point was to work with what we have courtesy of PG Music, with some good low-mid speakers, mics, and interface. Everything is going to end up in 16/44.1, anyway, and few of us have aspirations to the moonrock level of excellence. Maybe we should, but I suspect that most of us don't.

Wasn't that fun?

R.
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#119048 - 07/06/11 04:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: Noel96]
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Hi Bob,

Like Dan above, I now use Reaper as my DAW. I used to use Sonar (from versions 4 through to 7). Then I started hearing some terrific productions in the User Showcase forum on here where people used Reaper for the final product. Reaper has a great deal going for it. Once you learn to use it, the user interface is incredibly versatile and gives very professional results.

Also, the Cockos plugins that come with the software are excellent (these days I pretty much only use these plugins even though I have around 500 other ones).

Lastly, there is some terrific documentation available for Reaper to help you get the best out of it. I purchased a couple of PDF books from the Cockos website that are fantastic and I also purchased a hardcopy book through Amazon. Because of these books, I'm understanding Reaper in 12 months a whole heap more than I ever understood Sonar in 6 years.

What is amazing is that Reaper is incredibly cheap to buy.

Regards,
Noel




plug ins come with reaper? is that like the VSTs i read about, the bass, keys, and drums sounds?

i was not sure if reaper included these plug ins...i am just learning!

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#119049 - 07/06/11 04:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: vishnu]
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+1 for Reaper. It comes with some excellent ReaPlugs (effects such as reverb, compression, EQ, etc.), and there are many many good free VSTs and VSTi's that can be used with it. The online support community for Reaper is excellent and extremely helpful. As the OP said, for $40 you really can't beat it, and plus IMHO it is better than most other DAWs that I have seen for 10x the price.

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#119050 - 07/06/11 09:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: jazzwombat]
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FYI: Right now, I am leaning towards the M-Audio Fast Track Ultra and Sonar X1...

Best regards,

Bob aka jazzwombat




Bob, I leaning that way myself. I currently use Sonar 5.2. I’m planing on having a new 64bit Win 7 machine built. I’ve been researching USB, PCIe and FW audio interfaces and the Fast Track Ultra is the leader as of right now.

Let me know how you make out or if you have found anything better and I will do the same.
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#119051 - 07/06/11 09:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: MarioD]
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Hi vishnu,
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plug ins come with reaper? is that like the VSTs i read about, the bass, keys, and drums sounds?



Yes, plugins come with Reaper but they are effects and not the instrumental, MIDI kind. Instrumental ones like VSC, DXi, etc., can be used very easily, though.

Regards,
Noel
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#119052 - 07/07/11 09:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: Noel96]
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Hi vishnu,
Quote:

plug ins come with reaper? is that like the VSTs i read about, the bass, keys, and drums sounds?



Yes, plugins come with Reaper but they are effects and not the instrumental, MIDI kind. Instrumental ones like VSC, DXi, etc., can be used very easily, though.

Regards,
Noel




One question about Reaper: Is it and its VSTs Window 7 64-bit compatible? I've read in a few forums that several VSTs don't work in a 64 bit OS. Just curious,

Bob aka jazzwombat
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#119053 - 07/07/11 09:31 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Help me spend my money: advice on USB audio interface and DAW software [Re: jazzwombat]
bharris Offline
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Reaper is Windows 7 64-bit compatible (there is a separate version for 64-bit systems). If you are concerned about third party VSTs, however, 32-bit Reaper works absolutely fine on a 64-bit system.

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