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#120501 - 07/11/11 11:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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There is a great deal of power in F5, and much in right-click, too. Not to mention that, for every new version, I take time to look at every menu option, and I continue to be amazed at all that is in this program.

Just play with everything for awhile and have some fun taking it all in.
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#120502 - 07/12/11 02:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Matt Finley]
Brian K Offline
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Thanks Matt.Will do.

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#120503 - 07/13/11 08:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Noel96]
Brian K Offline
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Hi Noel,

I made a copy to practice on,went in and made some track edits but when I tried to play back have no sound on this new copy at all. The original plays fine.

What could I have done?

Thanks

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#120504 - 07/13/11 09:00 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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How did you make the copy of the songfile?

I would use Explorer to highlight, Copy and Paste the file to another folder. I would then change its name slightly so I could tell the two apart.

Attempts to Copy and Paste from inside BiaB are not likely to copy all the data needed, such as Patches, etc.

Also, be advised that attempts to Copy an already corrupted song file would likely only copy the corruption as well. Sometimes a song file becomes corrupted from heavy editing sessions or perhaps running out of resources during long sessions - or if the program crashes or freezes while working on that particular file - and the only cure for that I have found is to hit New and start all over again, entering the song from scratch.

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#120505 - 07/13/11 03:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Mac]
Brian K Offline
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Mac,

Thanks for your response!

Here's what I did:

from the original song file which was then and is now fine I went to file, clicked "save song as",changed the name and clicked save.I got a new version named as requested. I do not remember if I tried to play it before going into bar settings and setting up some mutes and return to normal entries for the solo acoustic guitar track. (It's a bluegrass style and I added a RT shuffle style fiddle on the melody track which made the stock Guitar track too busy...that's why I'm pulling the guitar in and out)

After doing three Mute-return to normal entries I tried to play it back and got no audio. Then I went back to the original and it plays fine as do all other works in progress in the BIAB song folder.

As far as saving a song file another way such as your suggestion to use explorer..I do not know how to do that and was not aware that the save method I'm using could lead to trouble.

Thanks!

Brian

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#120506 - 07/13/11 06:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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Hi Brian,

Below are some thoughts that occurred to me regarding your problem given all that we've so far been through.

It could be that the "Mute" for "all instruments" was accidentally activated at bar 1. To double check this, go to the Bar Settings on bar 1 and have a look at the very top setting of the Mute/Normal box.

Another possibility is that the style has inadvertently been disabled. If this is the case, it can be seen as a black cross next to the style name. (See picture below.)



To enable the style, simply click in the style name and a menu will pop-up that will allow to you activate the style.

If it turns out that neither of the above is the culprit, the below is what I'd try.

Use F5 to get into Bar Settings (or right-click on the chord sheet) and then "Reset all bars". Now generate the song by hitting the play button and see if any sound is heard. If not, it sounds like the file is faulty.

In this instance, I'd simply open the original saved file (this is the beauty of always keeping the original file intact) and create another version of that original file to work from. (For some reason, every once in a while, faulty files arise. I've found that it's usually a whole lot simpler to re-start from scratch rather than try to find the "why is this so" solution. I know that this approach is a bit of a pain but it is often the quickest solution in the long run.)

Also, before going through and adding the "mutes" and "back to normal" settings, I'd generate the song. This shouldn't make a difference that I'm aware of, but maybe it does. It's worth a try as a different approach.

Hope these thoughts help.

Regards,
Noel.

P.S. You're really starting to learn about BIAB now


Edited by Noel96 (07/13/11 07:54 PM)
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#120507 - 07/14/11 12:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Noel96]
Brian K Offline
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Thanks, Noel.

The problem was that BIAB was failing to create a full and functional copy using "save song as" so I could change the name and not risk my "master".I was getting copies that showed the new name and the chord chart but they would not produce any sound. Also strange was that the file copy was reduced from 93.4 MB to 19.4.

I kept deleting the copies and trying it again. Same. Then I tried unfreezing the tracks before saving and the program locked up so I clicked "end program" and reloaded the master. Everything came back intact so I tried another duplication with new name and that time it worked so I went ahead with the new copy and edited the guitar leaving the shuffle fiddle constant throughout and the end result is an excellent bluegrass track. I'd need a really good band to do better...amazing what this program can deliver...and I'm just getting started!

What happened? Who knows? All's well that ends well! Sounds like a temporary glitch in the anti matter influx sub-quadrant divider to me! Hate it when that happens.

Thanks for your help...again!

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#120508 - 07/14/11 12:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for the update. Sure can't trust those anti matter flux dividers

By the way, my next question was going to be about frozen Realtracks! You're a mind reader!

Please keep in mind that when you do the bar settings, it is necessary to unfreeze the Realtracks and then generate the song. The concept of "freezing" is used to keep a Realtrack exactly the same; freezing stops a Realtrack from being modified in any way whatsoever. This means that any changes to the song can not be reflected in the song until all necessary tracks are unfrozen and the song is regenerated.

By "necessary", I mean that if the change only affects (say) the Piano track, it's only necessary to unfreeze the Piano track and regenerate.

Regards,
Noel
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#120509 - 07/14/11 12:48 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Noel96]
Brian K Offline
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Noel,

Interesting...I did not know that and did not unfreeze the lead acoustic....the changes recorded perfectly!

I didn't unfreeze because the take from BIAB was the one I wanted to work with...and still it worked! Computer "logic"! Next time I'll do the same and see what happens...I'll let you know.

Cheers
Brian

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#120510 - 07/14/11 12:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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Brian,

It's good hear that it's all coming together! I look forward to hearing how it worked out for you.

Regards,
Noel
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#120511 - 07/14/11 10:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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Quote:

...After doing three Mute-return to normal entries I tried to play it back and got no audio. Then I went back to the original and it plays fine as do all other works in progress in the BIAB song folder.







Maybe you did not first push PLAY button in order to have the new songfile generate the parts before trying to edit...


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#120512 - 07/14/11 06:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Mac]
Brian K Offline
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Good thought...maybe that's it.

Thanks Mac

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#120513 - 07/15/11 10:32 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Brian K]
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Or maybe you're just dumber than a salesperson...


YOU OWE EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM AN APOLOGY, DUDE.


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#120514 - 07/15/11 04:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Mac]
Brian K Offline
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Ok,Mac. You're right. My apologies.

Brian

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#120515 - 07/15/11 11:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Formatting the song structure [Re: Mac]
Brian K Offline
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Actually, Mac I've been thinking this over and I think your comment to me was more insulting than mine to Peter.

So why don't YOU apologize to me since we are so into apologies.

Just who do you think you are? The apology god?

You know,Mac...with the number of anonymous visitors on this site every day who are trying to decide whether or not to buy into this program it might be wise of you, who obviously supports the product as do I,to be a bit more civilized yourself. I have already admitted my own guilt as to not being infallibly immune to confusion and frustration leading to perhaps imprudent expressions of emotion. (You can look that word up...from what I've seen of your posts it might not be in your vocabulary)

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#TechTipTuesday - Band-in-a-Box® Patch Updates

If you're ever experiencing an issue with your Band-in-a-Box program, make sure you have the most recent patch update for your version - this can be done at http://www.pgmusic.com/support.updates.win.htm.

Patch updates are released frequently, and are created by our development team to fix any reported bugs, tweak existing features within the program, update demos and other files as needed, and more!

To find out which version of the program you have, visit Help | About Band-in-a-Box within the program. You will see the full version number listing as:
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows
Version 2018 (512)

The number in parentheses is the build number. As you can see, my Band-in-a-Box is up to date and will continue to stay that way because I've selected "Automatically check for updates every 7 days" within the Help | Check for Updates.... option (you can set the number of days to a different number). This window will also look to see if you're version is up to date, so you don't technically have to visit http://www.pgmusic.com/support.updates.win.htm if you didn't want to!

Once you've installed your patch update (make sure the program is closed when you're doing this), give it another try - if you are still experiencing the same issue you can report it by contacting us directly, or you can post your result to the Forum thread that also announces the patch update, like our recent Band-in-a-Box 2018 Build 512 Update (Feb 15) post.

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RealBand 2018 Build 5 Update Available!

RealBand 2018 customers can download the latest free patch update here: http://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#2018_5

Summary of Changes for Build 5
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Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Build 512 Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows customers can download the latest free patch update here: www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#512

Summary of changes for Build 512 since 510 (Feb 15 2018):
Fixed: "Load SoundTrack Song" and "Load song with RealDrums Audio" buttons in the Sound Track dialog were not working.
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PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is here! PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 includes many new features and enhancements:

Windows Audio (WASAPI) driver support. This allows for low latency audio recording/playback without requiring ASIO. Note that this supports 1 stereo input plus 1 stereo output at a time. For multiple inputs/outputs, you should continue to use either MME or ASIO.

ABC Notation format support. You can save a track of notation in a popular ASCII text format to import into other programs, or you can paste this format into a user forum as a way of sending the track (usually the melody and chord symbols) to other users without having to attach a file.

The built-in Audio Chord Wizard detection in the Chords window automatically detects the chords of the song, based on the audio data from all non-muted audio tracks. This works similar to the standalone Audio Chord Wizard, except that it uses the current bar lines of the existing song.

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...a full list of the new features in PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is available at http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.features.htm

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