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#120620 - 07/10/11 10:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] F5 Problem
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Hello all.


I am trying to compose a song, and keep running into a problem. I write the intro in one style, then try to use F5 to use another style for the verse, but after selecting another style, I get the following error message in a yellow box at the top right of the screen:

"Playback generation is already in progress. Load another song if this message persists."


What am I doing wrong?


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#120621 - 07/10/11 12:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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You make the intro the main style and then click on the bar you want it to change at and F5 to change the chorus's style . Works for me , hope this might help .

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#120622 - 07/10/11 12:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Tommyc]
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You make the intro the main style and then click on the bar you want it to change at and F5 to change the chorus's style . Works for me , hope this might help .






That's what I'm doing, then I get the error message.
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#120623 - 07/10/11 12:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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Works OK here as well.
Return to factory settings.
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#120624 - 07/10/11 01:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: silvertones]
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Works OK here as well.
Return to factory settings.





I did that as well. What I have is an intro consisting of just a piano track, then I'm trying to change the following bars to another style. It recomposes the entire song with the changed style.
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#120625 - 07/10/11 01:24 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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Sounds like you're hitting the F5 after you hit the play button. Use your chord sheet and place the cursor in the measure where you want to change styles, then hit F5.
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#120626 - 07/10/11 01:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Robert Coy]
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Sounds like you're hitting the F5 after you hit the play button. Use your chord sheet and place the cursor in the measure where you want to change styles, then hit F5.







That's what I have been doing. I tried it again, and it worked. It starts the song at the beginning, and the styles change at the correct measures now. Is there a way to just start composing from the changed measure without recomposing the previous bars?


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#120627 - 07/10/11 02:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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No, and you would likely not want to. BIAB needs to see the whole chord progression to make some sense of it when it generates. You should try RealBand.

A possible workaround in BIAB would be to leave a long rest in a track, freeze it, and then work with another track to 'fill-in' the missing part until you get what you like. To my knowledge, though, it could not all be done on one track.

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#120628 - 07/10/11 02:15 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Matt Finley]
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No. And you would not want to. BIAB needs to see the whole chord progression to make some sense of it when it generates.


t.



Thanks Matt. Do you have any idea why I am getting that error message? Have you ever seen it before?
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#120629 - 07/10/11 02:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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No, I have not seen that message in normal operation. I think I did see it once as suggested above, by accidentally pressing F5 after clicking on Play, but that was user error (mine).

By the way, I edited my prior message with a few other clarifications; take another look.
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#120630 - 07/10/11 02:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Matt Finley]
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Thanks. I am using RB, but mostly just to add instruments to the BIAB tracks, then exporting the WAV's into Sonar.. Aside from that, I haven't done any composing in RB. Is it easier?


I have only just begun to scratch the surface of these programs.


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#120631 - 07/10/11 02:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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I am using RB, but mostly just to add instruments to the BIAB tracks



You don't have this right. You don't use RB to add anything to BIAB. The RTs & RDs live in BIAB folders.You can do a song in BIAB & then open it in RB to add more but not the other way around.
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#120632 - 07/10/11 02:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: silvertones]
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Quote:

I am using RB, but mostly just to add instruments to the BIAB tracks



You don't have this right. You don't use RB to add anything to BIAB. The RTs & RDs live in BIAB folders.You can do a song in BIAB & then open it in RB to add more but not the other way around.






Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. That is what I am doing; originating the song in BIAB, then opening it in RB to add instruments.
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#120633 - 07/10/11 03:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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I tried it again, and once again, I got this error message; "Access violation......".



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#120634 - 07/10/11 04:07 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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Different problem entirely here. This is not the yellow warning from BIAB you referred to earlier.

Try Opt., Return to Factory Settings. and if that doesn't help, Reboot the PC.

If that doesn't help, please describe your system: OS, BIAB version, MIDI output choices, and the steps you took that led to this error. Is the error always repeatable?
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#120635 - 07/10/11 04:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Matt Finley]
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Different problem entirely here. This is not the yellow warning from BIAB you referred to earlier.

Try Opt., Return to Factory Settings. and if that doesn't help, Reboot the PC.

If that doesn't help, please describe your system: OS, BIAB version, MIDI output choices, and the steps you took that led to this error. Is the error always repeatable?








Yup, this is another problem.



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I am using the Cakewalk TTS-1, as I prefer it to the Coyote. Yes, the error message is repeatable - it's happening constantly. I have tried "Factory Settings" - ad nauseum), and rebooting. It happens when I try to compose a song.


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#120636 - 07/10/11 05:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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That's a really good description so far, thanks.

When you say it happens "when you try to compose a song", does that say anything about it NOT happening if you just playback another song? Composing one particular song, where the file might have become corrupt, or any new song? Or is BIAB dead in the water immediately whenever you press Play?

If you use another soft synth instead of the TTS-1, does the problem go away?

My first thought was to check the FAQ here: http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq23.htm#78 but you said you are using MME. Also look at FAQ #120.

I'll bet PG Music Support could get this solved.
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#120637 - 07/10/11 05:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Matt Finley]
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That's a really good description so far, thanks.

When you say it happens "when you try to compose a song", does that say anything about it NOT happening if you just playback another song? Composing one particular song, where the file might have become corrupt, or any new song? Or is BIAB dead in the water immediately whenever you press Play?

If you use another soft synth instead of the TTS-1, does the problem go away?

My first thought was to check the FAQ here: http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq23.htm#78 but you said you are using MME. Also look at FAQ #120.

I'll bet PG Music Support could get this solved.








It doesn't happen when I play back another song. It happens intermittently. I just tried composing three different songs – no error. I will continue to try to get it to give me the error message again, and make note of all preceding moves.

Thanks for helping.
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#120638 - 07/10/11 05:25 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: 90 dB]
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OK. The problem is becoming much clearer. Good luck.
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#120639 - 07/10/11 05:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: F5 Problem [Re: Matt Finley]
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OK. The problem is becoming much clearer. Good luck.








I'm glad it's much clearer to you. It's driving me crazy!
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