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#122061 - 07/20/11 11:16 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: Matt Finley]
redguitars Offline

Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 618
Loc: US
I switched to Bing a long time ago.
Every virus and fake anti-virus infection I ever got was from a Google search.
Even though everything shows green on my search results I'd get infected.

After 3 times last year I switched to Bing. I like peeking into the pages with Bing.
I hope this isn't going to be bad. Most people still use Google, right?

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#122062 - 07/20/11 11:19 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: rharv]
redguitars Offline

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Posts: 618
Loc: US
Interesting, I have DSL and my IP address stays the same.
Maybe I'm the only one in my town that has broadband.
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#122063 - 07/20/11 12:11 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: redguitars]
rharv Offline

Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 18673
Loc: Marysville, Mi. USA
That's why I used the qualifier "in these parts", meaning the area I live in.

Modem has to be shut off for 2 minutes minimum, then the old IP is dropped into the pool of available IP's for the provider and when you get back online you get a new one.
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#122064 - 07/20/11 12:32 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: rharv]
Tommyc Offline

Registered: 01/08/11
Posts: 2487
If everybody checks this often we will make Google the most used search engine in the world.
I Google'd boogers and found they have antibiotic properties ! Isn't that special !

Edited by Tommyc (07/20/11 12:35 PM)

#122065 - 07/20/11 12:45 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: Tommyc]
eddie1261 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4039
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Your IP is "leased" to you for 24 hours. DSL and cable will vary, as will how your IP is handled. I can be shut off for 24 hours and power on and have the same IP. At 24 hours and one minute, if my cable modem was powered off when the lease was set to renew, I will get a new IP. I would also get a new IP if their side resets the router I am connected to. Being behind a home network router, my local (LAN) IPs are the same always because I have them hard set in each computer. The outside (WAN) IP that comes from the internet provider is what changes. You, with DSL, would get a different IP if you leave your modem off for a few minutes as rharv said.

The way to test is to visit or (and there are many others) and that will show your WAN IP, so IF you have a router in your house sharing your connection, your LAN IPs will be or depending on your brand of router. DO not confuse router, which is a device to SHARE a connection and connect networks, with modem, which is a device to MAKE a connection. Many people use modem and router interchangeably, and that is not correct. If you have a home router, that router connects your "network" to your ISPs "network".

Now I am seeing a great deal of emphasis put on whether Google tracks and stores. Understand that log files "track and store", but it's not like someone is sitting there actively scanning what YOU do. That kind of logging is there in case someone disgruntled sax player sends you a death threat and you get a subpoena to track where the message came from. After 3 1/2 years working for an ISP, I learned a lot about that side of things. "Tracking" by itself is nothing nefarious.
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#122066 - 07/20/11 12:51 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: eddie1261]
John Conley Offline

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 8333
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
Most of the major news services are now picking this up. I'd wager it's not an 'old' post just rerun in the Newspaper. The Post is way up the credibility scale.
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#122067 - 07/20/11 12:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: John Conley]
Ryszard Offline

Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 3891
Loc: Kennesaw (Atlanta) GA

"Tracking" by itself is nothing nefarious.

Of course it isn't. Storing the information indefinitely and sharing or selling it (or having it hacked and stolen, which always happens in the end) is.
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#122068 - 07/20/11 03:54 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: eddie1261]
KeithS Offline

Registered: 06/09/03
Posts: 875
Loc: Mobile, Alabama

Most of the people doing it are in Russia and there is no jurisdiction....the US government can not touch them, and the Russian legal system has nothing in place to make it illegal. Even if you track down the emanating IP address, they can't do anything about it.

Everything Eddie says here is absolutely true. I wondered for a long time how these crooks could hold you up for an extortion payment in exchange for returning control of your computer. The fact is, that even within Russia, Latvia, and the other places they do business they are constantly changing financial institutions so if someone did want to go after them civilally as oppossed to criminially it is hard to do even that.

One journalist interviewed a list of people who were scammed into paying money, and out of several hundred people that he talked to who used a credit card online to pay the scammers, not one reported the incident to their credit card company. Since they could have challenged the charges as well as taken steps to cancel their cards (they did after all just turn their credit card number, expiration date, and security code over to obvious crooks)it seemed odd to the journalist that they had not reported the fraud to their credit card company. Most of them said that they did not want to admit that they had been so stupid has to fall for the scam.
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#122069 - 07/21/11 10:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: rharv]
Jim Offline

Registered: 06/16/00
Posts: 100
Loc: Texas

Clear your history in your browser every so often, and don't remain signed into gmail, google, facebook, etc. log out so public cookies aren't helping keep track of what you do.

Also, don't forget to delete the ".sol" tracking files created by Adobe Flash.

In addition, I'll pass along a link to an short interesting article I came across this morning.,1518,775218,00.html

#122070 - 07/21/11 11:28 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: Jim]
eddie1261 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4039
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
SO much misinformation out there.....

Cookies are stored on your computer. When you visit a site that has a cookie, all the cookie does is remembers any account information you had to set up for that site. The cookie itself is not dangerous and they never have been. The history again is just a browser tool to say you typing. It doesn't "reach out" to anything. Cookies are NOT malicious in any way. Yet the media says so.

The reason you would delete anything like that is to speed your browsing up. If you have 10,000 sites in your history, you make your computer look through 10,000 lines asking "Do I have this? Do I have this? DO I have this?" There is some convenience to the browser remembering but there is a point of diminishing returns.

All your really need to do is download Malwarebytes and let it run. It will block any malicious attempts to reach you, and yes, there are port scanners running that are looking at your computer 24/7. Whether they get IN or not is another story, but some robot port scanner program somewhere is scanning every IP looking for open ports they can exploit. I used to do this when I was young. I know very well how it works. Thus I know how to stop it. And Malwarebytes is the best real time tool right now. Super AntiSpyware is the best "as you run it" tool right now. I still run Norton in the background too. Never had a virus.
If you say "I can't" ..... I'm pretty sure you won't.

#122071 - 07/21/11 12:20 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: eddie1261]
musiclover Offline

Registered: 08/13/09
Posts: 1448
Loc: Ireland
Well one good thing about a fake antivirus infection is at least it will pop up and you know you are infected (unless of course you know virtually nothing about computers)

I think that anyone who does online banking in their general surfing computer is asking for trouble. I have a windows 7 partition that is used for that only, means I have to reboot to bank but I think a little bit of inconvenience to stay much safer.


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#122072 - 07/21/11 01:10 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Google warns of massive malware outbreak [Re: musiclover]
Charlie McG Offline

Registered: 07/08/03
Posts: 599
Loc: Sulphur Springs, TX
Here's what I do when I get a message I don't want to respond to. On windows.

Do a ctrl-alt-del.

Windows Task Manger will pop up. Make sure you click the Applications tab.

Click your browser (IE, FF, Chrome, etc.) and highlight it. There may be multiple instances. Click End Task. Do this repeatedly until all browser instances close.

Works for me when I get a message of any kind I don't like.
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