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#122461 - 07/22/11 04:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi?
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Has anyone successfully used the LoopBe1 virtual midi cable program to send an extra midi signal to a synthesizer or harmonizer while using realtreacks and coyote in biab? I need help with settings. Midi/Audio driver setup recognizes that it is there and I have it set as midi in/ midi out. I have dxi checked (also tried without). I have biab setting for "vocalist" (ch5) and have set my vocalist pro to ch5 and "all" but no midi signal to the harmonizer so far. Any suggestions?

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#122462 - 07/22/11 04:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi? [Re: Mike Lucich]
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The LoopBe1 driver should not be selected for both In and Out. This will cause MIDI feedback. I believe it has a fail-safe that mutes the driver if it detects MIDI feedback, so that could be what is going on.

If you are using the driver for output, then you need another program to use it as input. For example, PowerTracks or RealBand could receive MIDI signals and play out through a DXi synth.

If the Vocalist is hardware, then the LoopBe1 driver would not be necessary. In that case their should be some kind of output driver available in the Band-in-a-Box MIDI output driver list.
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#122463 - 07/22/11 05:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi? [Re: Blake]
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Thanks Blake, but that is my problem. BIAB does not support multiple midi and therefore when playing realtracks you can't use another piece of midi hardware like the vocalist. That's why if I want midi instruments playing along side my realtracks I have to use the dxi setting (coyote) and it will not send a separate midi signal out using this configuration.
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#122464 - 07/23/11 09:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi? [Re: Mike Lucich]
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I don't have LoopBe1 but I've used MIDI YOKE. It's a virtual cable as well.You can have up to 16 virtual cables. You need only one.So here's what you do assuming your soundcard is OK with it. It should be.
1. Use midi yoke 1 as your output driver in BIAB
2. In your host program use midiyoke as your input driver for as many tracks as you need.And assign the approprite channels for those tracks that coincide with the BIAB instrument channels
3. assign each of those tracks to a particular DXi/VSTi
4. Route the audio from those DXi/VSTi to your sound card.
5. In BIAB route the audio to your sound card.RTs & RDs
6. In BIAB go to :OPT./PREFS/output channel
7. In this screen check off "output chords" as set up it'll output basic chords on channel 5.
8. In the host again set a track to receive midiyoke 1 on channel 5
9. set this track to output to your hardware midi interface that is plugged into the midi in of your Vocalist
10. Make sure the Vocalist is set to receive the chord info on channel 5.

This is how I did it in the olden days. Hope this helps.
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#122465 - 07/23/11 10:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi? [Re: silvertones]
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I'd get the midi out working first.

I clean out the soloist part.

I change the solo part to Midi ch 5

I set the output chords to Midi ch 5

You should just be able to plug a usb to midi cable into the computer, plug it into the harmonizer and it should work.

On my harmonizer there are presets numbered 1.1 to 9.9

If I embed using f5 at bar 1 a 32 it will set the harmonizer to 3.2 so you can change from one harmony to another on the fly.

I would the the above working, and set Midi out (No in yet) in Opts Prefs Midi Driver

I'd use all Realtracks and watch to see my box work on harmonies.

Once you get that working you can decide if you want to try going back in and using the Dxi, I have not tried that as I use a Ketron or My Jv1010.

I think one step at a time is best, like I said no midi plugged back in.

Once you get that to work I'd simply try clicking on the Dxi and see if the soloist track is still firing midi out on ch 5.
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#122466 - 07/23/11 08:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Has anyone had luck with "LoopBe1" for multiple midi? [Re: John Conley]
Mike Lucich Offline
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Thanks guys, but still no joy. I'll try again tomorrow. BIAB does list my vocalist pro (usb) under midi outs, so if I choose that and not select dxi it will get me through tonight's gig with my midi harmony. I'll just have to stick with songs that only use real tracks (or take the time to change the midi options for the songs with both realtracks and midi).
I really appreciate you taking the time to help!
Mike
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