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I know just what you're talking about Eddie. I've hung up on my ISP a lot until I got someone who didn't talk to me like I was an idiot.
But the check the plugs or connection thing, I had to relearn again with my USB problems. It seems some devices just want to be in the same port all the time and other want to be moved after something changes.
I don't have a USB hub card, but I did have a USB powered hub that plugged into a USB port. I thought it would save the day for me. One computer loved it and another one just wanted to spit it out.
Go figure. Yes, I love that "Have you unplugged you modem?" or "Do you know if you are plugged in or wireless?"
Usually by that time I'm just wired. lol
Wayne,
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Hi Ron,
Does power cycling it mean, completely shuttin down and pulling the plug?
I was told to do that sometimes and pull the power cord out of the CPU and hold in the power button. After about a second or 2 I hear a little click inside. They told me that was to dump everything that coud be left in there.
Wayne.
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.......... I never power cycle it. And of course, power cycling rests everything, so..... Add that to taking the USB hub out of the loop.... voila....
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But you haven't put the hub back into the loop for testing as a couple of us have suggested. Being a problem solver (like many of us), aren't you curious to know for sure whether the issue was in the hub or in the MAudio interface? I know I am, and it's not totally idle curiosity, either. It could help with future configuration/purchase decisions. -Ron
I was one of those suggesters. You know why? It defies any logic that recording was happening in Sonar & not RB using the Hub.One of a few things is amiss either:
1. It wasn't recording in Sonar
2. It was recording in RB but some miss setup by the OP was at fault.
3. The USB is meant to save face
4. FM is at work
OK now I like Bob want to like you as I think you are basically a nice guy and a former PM about your treatment and respect for animals puts on the top of my respect list but I've got to tell ya straight:
YOU PISS ME OFF when you start on your rants about the program. If you can't keep this to yourself & work constructively and listen to the experts, like they say on Shark Tank "I'm out!"
Your choice.
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"My studio computer has been in place since early June and has been powered off and on exactly 3 times after Windows 7 setup"
I find that if something is not working right one of the first things I try is reboot the computer.
Musiclover
Not only that, but despite my admiration for Windows 7, I reboot every week or so. Any badly written software with a memory leak can bring the OS down in time. Periodic reboots can keep that from being bothersome. BIAB itself used to cause this problem many years ago, where the computer would crash after repeated reloads.
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But you haven't put the hub back into the loop for testing as a couple of us have suggested. Being a problem solver (like many of us), aren't you curious to know for sure whether the issue was in the hub or in the MAudio interface? I know I am, and it's not totally idle curiosity, either. It could help with future configuration/purchase decisions. -Ron
I will do that in a bit when I go up there. I am equally curious if it was the hub or the power cycle that iin essence reset the M-Audio interface.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
1. How much did you make in 2023?
2. Send it to us.
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So is it all working and everyone (almost) is happy?
Eddie, if so, you should go back to post #1 and post the fix. That would be a great help to newcomers who stumble upon this big thread.
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Kevin, you mean respond to the very first post where I laid out the issue and quote the issue and the resolution?
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
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Kevin, it's a good idea, but you can't edit a post here after too much time has elapsed. I think two days is too long for Eddie to go back and do so. The SONAR forum, among others, does allow this and we do make use of it there as you suggest.
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In that a lot of you are using this Sonar, are you expected to be a decent sailor first, or can anyone who can paddle a canoe go looking for uboats?
I think this is where (yes, William Shatner is giving the thumbs up), I say,
"Up Periscope...wait doc that's a whatzit scope...don't lube my a.....NOOOOOO"
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Musica est vita
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Hi Ron,
Does power cycling it mean, completely shuttin down and pulling the plug?
I was told to do that sometimes and pull the power cord out of the CPU and hold in the power button. After about a second or 2 I hear a little click inside. They told me that was to dump everything that coud be left in there.
Wayne.
Hi Wayne, this is getting far afield, but quickly: I think Eddie was talking about power cycling more in the context of peripherals. I have the M Audio 2496 (internal card). "Recycling" it seems never to have been an issue, but I think a simple reboot accomplishes a power recycle for the busses (including USB). If I ever need to replace the card I'd look at USB products (hence my interest here). When I have ISP issues that a reboot doesn't resolve, I unplug (the power) first the modem then the router for 10 secs, then reverse process. That's a full power cycle to me.
That procedure you describe for the entire computer is what I do before opening it up. Holding in the power button while unplugged is to clear static charges from the circuitry. That delayed click you hear, I'm guessing is the spring delay that keeps us from accidentally hitting the button and instantly shutting down. I think I read you want to continue depressing for a few more secs after the click.
Incidentally, Matt and others make excellent observations about rebooting Win7 (x64 sp1 in my case) either routinely or when there's a problem. It's so stable, there's a tendency to let it go and go. (Which I do myself, sad to say.) I think MS intended us to reboot more often. I do keep track of cpu and core usage with a desktop widget.
Anyway, back to regularly scheduled kibbitzing.... -Ron
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Eddie: I meant edit the original post, but as Matt has pointed out -- that seems to be an impossibility (except for the moderators, I guess).
Back to your regularly scheduled programming ....
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Eddie: I meant edit the original post, but as Matt has pointed out -- that seems to be an impossibility (except for the moderators, I guess).
Back to your regularly scheduled programming ....
I do belong to some other Forums were they ask you to do a couple of things.
1. Enter a subject line that is meaningful--such as "Can't get RB to record" as opposed to "I quit"
2. We can't do it here but it's a nice feature that may be able to be implemented and that's the ability to be able to mark a thread as "SOLVED"
Makes doing searches for issues much nicer.
I don't think we know yet what the real remedy was. Haven't heard back yet how reinstalling the HUB in the chain worked out.
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Since I can't edit the original, let me sum things up.
I started to experiment with Real Band after using BIAB for a few months. I had someone helping me via remote connection to my computer. Things went well while he was connected. When he disconnected, I tried to add real time audio to an empty track. That is where the problems started. The tracks would show to be recorded, but there was no wave data showing. Through my experimenting, many suggestions offered, and a great deal of (quite likely unneccesary) frustration fueled venting, I finally tried one last thing, which was moving my M-Audio MIDI interface connection from my USB hub to a USB port on the computer and restarting. As a result of moving to a new USB port, the restart also redetected the interface, and reloaded the existing drivers for it. Started Real Band again, and it worked. I have not been up there yet today, but will go up later and move it BACK to the hub and see of it was really the reconnection to a direct USB port that resolved it or power cycling the computer. I really suspect it is a combination of the two, but if it works when I plug it back into the hub, then it was the power cycle.
I will keep you posted.
I'll go up right after this next helping of crow....
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Thanks, so what I do is Power cycle. Like you do with a modem.
Good to know. I reboot this machine every morning when I wake up. I use it 24/7 and it's on playing DVDs, streaming movies and every internet thing, photo editing and music recording. Plus I stream NPR Jazz radio all night while I sleep.
Every night this machine has a scheduled full scan. 365 days a year. I back up weekly or more if I add a bunch of stuff. And then weekly maintenance. Defrag and Diskcheck.
Since it's our everything PC, I figure why not do a daily scan while I sleep. I never power down the monitors with the power switch.
I lost 2 monitors in the past 8 years, LCDs and they both popped when I hit the power button, which I used to do everyday. So now both our machines are on 24/7. Sometimes they sleep sometime never.
Wayne,
I also reboot after some long sessions recording with PTPA. After awhile it gets a little quirky, so I reboot and everythings back to normal.
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Now living in the South I've learned to eat it barbecue style.
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To Wayne, thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your thoughts, and you are right. Just to clarify my point i was not trying to smack you at all, I was just saying that if you use PTPA to move song over to from BiaB, why not use RB, since it is PTPA with more features, that is all. I guess i said it all bassackwards. Sorry. It really does not matter where you want to do things, that is the beauty of choice.
Go make a song! And stop listening to my feeble rantings! Hey i think i will go make a song!
Hey Eddie, go make a freekin song Too!!
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Now living in the South I've learned to eat it barbecue style.
Do you prefer the tomato type sauce like in Western NC or the vinegar based like in the east?
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Mustard based like down in central South Carolina!! uuuuummmmm good!
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Well seeing as I live as far West in NC as you can get.........tomato
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Oh wow, John, you over in the Asheville area? The most beautiful place in the USA?
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
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