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#131441 - 11/03/11 11:25 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rubberball103]
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Bud, please. I can't speak for anybody else but as for me we have nothing to argue because you still haven't given me anything to work with.

This is all you've said:

"...there could be changes."

"give up on the anachronistic concept of patriotism."

"Standard tactic - when you have no logical argument with people, call them bums, hippies, pot-smokers, and communists."

These are merely slogans and this last one is creating the classic Straw Man. Create something so you can tear it down when nobody has said anything like that.

You've said nothing concerning my questions, the main one being what changes are these protesters looking for. If you're not going to engage in some kind of dialog here, then I'm done with this thread.

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#131442 - 11/03/11 03:24 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: jazzmammal]
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#131443 - 11/03/11 09:23 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rubberball103]
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rubberball103, (aka Bud)<

It would've been nice if you'd taken the time to articulate to the rest of us what the "Occupy" movement is all about without using one liner pre planned plugs.

I'm sure there is more than a couple of us who would like to hear someone in favor of it actually talk about it without using "talking points".

Exactly what are you wanting people to do?
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#131444 - 11/04/11 06:49 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: bobcflatpicker]
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I wanting to occupy someplace WARM.

I'm against all greed and hording.

Good people, good music, and enhancements.


We shall overcome, someday.

But who's we?
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#131445 - 11/04/11 07:12 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: John Conley]
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I think they meant Wee shall over come , John !

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#131446 - 11/04/11 10:32 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: Tommyc]
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One of the great things about American politics is that it often doubles as entertainment. Given that most of network and cable television has devolved into so-called reality TV, it is getting pretty hard to distinguish between “entertainment” programming and political “news” coverage – especially where the occupy Wall Street protests are concerned.

On one hand we have strangers living in a house together with hidden cameras, arguing and having casual sex, and on the other we have what looks like a bunch of camping trips gone bad – complete with no showers, drugs and casual sex.

The former are usually paid to display their foolishness, so they know why they are there. But the later really can’t give a cogent explanation of why they are there and what they want to accomplish, other than that they are mad at “the man” and that they won’t leave until they get what they want.

Some members of the media, along with helpful liberal politicians, have compared them to the Tea Party, but there is very little in the way of comparison. The Tea Party protests were large, law abiding and about something other than sleepovers, specifically a political agenda of limited government and less spending. The Occupy crowd is smaller, mob like and unfocused. Further, their campsites have been the scene of assaults (sexual and otherwise), theft, drug abuse and sanitation hazards. And yet, the Tea Party was compared to “angry mobs”, while these people represent America? Please.

Recently, Democrat pollster Douglas Schoen conducted the first extensive survey of the Occupy protesters and, among other things, discovered the following:

Only 15% are actually unemployed, (meaning the other 85% must have union jobs giving them time off to protest). And 98% say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, ...

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#131447 - 11/04/11 01:42 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: GDaddy]
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They know the problems; they don't know the solutions. By asking for demands you are asking them for solutions and they don't have them.

Problem- the earlier article I posted on congessional audit of FedReserve. 27 Trillion in loans to save banks around the world. 550 billion for US banks was approved by congress. That's quite a large discrepancy in numbers .. yet because the Fed is private no laws were broke. How do you solve that? That's a lot of money leaving the country and with the instability in Europe banking it was risky.

Problem - we bailout large corporations who then (surprise!) give large sums in bonuses to execs. Because of contracts they think this is perfectly OK, most of us agree it is not. Solution? I dunno. Personally I'd let them fail. It's Capitalism! Someone would replace them, they just add to the cost of everything with the speculation anyway (silly rant).

Protesting problems and not knowing the solution does not mean there is no reason to protest.

Problem - too much corporate money influencing elections and therefore laws. Solution? I dunno. But I can see why they are upset.

Problem - cheap labor used overseas to keep profits high while unemployment here soars. Solution? Change import laws and labor laws? .. but corporate put up a lot of money to get who they want in the places they are, so not going to happen.

Problem - a government that is so stuck on being in control that there is no control and no progress. Solution? Replace them .. but how is that going to go over for a talking point when news is contolled by corporate who also funded their campaigns? That's why you see the silly coverage of something that a lot of people feel strongly about.

Problem - BofA donates $45 million to NYPD shortly after the pepper spray fiasco, then starts $5 fee for debit cards. Does not look good to avg Joe.

Lots of problems that have gone on too long and now solutions are very hard. If you have the solution to any of these problems, please speak up. Or even if you think they are not problems .. explain.
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#131448 - 11/04/11 02:25 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rharv]
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The only problem, in my opinion, is government.
It does what it's not supposed to do. (constitutionally)
The politicians we've had for the past 100+ years, actually think they're smarter than the founding fathers. You know...the guys that actually invented the United States.
These arrogant fools have had their way, & we pay. AND we re-elect them!!!

They have planned our economy since Woodrow Wilson. Take a look at economic charts before & after Wilson (& the Fed) It's pretty dramatic. Before Wilson, the dollar was actually gaining in value. After the Federal Reserve it has lost 98% of it's value.

Want to put up a fence in YOUR yard...you need a permit. (permission)

Want to cut hair? You need a license. (please don't come back with..."we gotta make sure you can do it.") Someone who can't won't be in business long.

Want to get married? You need a license. WTF???

If the gov. thinks it knows what the best use of YOUR land is...they can take it!

Want to renounce your citizenship? The gov. is not allowing that anymore. If you can get away with it, it will cost you 50% of your assets. (compliments of Barney Frank added to a military bill)

Want to eat unhealthy? There's a tax on that.

Want to drill a well on YOUR property for water? You need a permit.

I can go on & on. THIS IS NOT the United States that it started out to be.

We are living under the illusion of freedom. I have since woke up...
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#131449 - 11/04/11 02:28 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rharv]
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Gdaddy is now my source for ...sex.

I think his post is a record for here, unless you count those porn posts.

Just a 'casual' observation.

Maybe the we get a snowfall like last winter. The first one was 100 cm. (close to or over 5 feet).

I think the tents are done at that point, and they better soon move off the ice or they will wake up frozen into the dirt. LOL. Casually of course.
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#131450 - 11/04/11 03:03 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: John Conley]
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There were porn posts? Dang, I missed 'em!
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#131451 - 11/04/11 03:06 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rharv]
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Create the law Thursday afternoon and start enforcing Friday at 3 AM.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-29-occupy-nashville-protesters-capitol-plaza-163045782.html

I laughed out loud when I read how the Commisioner responded to the arrests at the jail..
at least one person involved had some common sense.




Greenest state in the land of the free. Not any more I guess.

Looks like TN has about 75 more state troopers than it really needs.
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#131452 - 11/04/11 03:08 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: John Conley]
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I agree Mick, we have seriously strayed and continue to do so. I guess that is part of the protest purpose also. Things are not as they should be, but again; if I asked you for demands (solutions) would you have them? Realistically? Because if you said repeal everything back to Wilson you'd be on Fox Noose quicker than you can blink, being ridiculed like the OWS is.

Maybe that explains a lot. We are so far off track that the solution is going to sound silly.
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#131453 - 11/04/11 03:12 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rharv]
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FWIW rubberball103, they tried again the next night, too, and the commissioner of the jail again shot them down, releasing everybody (with a ticket this time). He said they have no legal right to change the park law like they did. The comissioner is actually the night judge for the jail.
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#131454 - 11/04/11 03:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: rharv]
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I know many people who say, "I like Ron Paul, BUT...when he says ".......[fill in the blanks]"
Ron Paul is SO constitutional it isn't funny. The points, of his, that people disagree with, are the very reason we have the problems today. "I think we should abide by the constitution...BUT"....

It either is or it isn't. When we impose our own wishes upon it, we lose the country that was invented by the founding fathers. We, like the politicians, think we know better. Or that they must have forgotten something.
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#131455 - 11/04/11 03:43 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Occupy... [Re: Mick Emery]
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Want to put up a fence in YOUR yard...you need a permit. (permission)



Because your fence doesn't just impact your property but your neighbor's property as well.
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Want to cut hair? You need a license. (please don't come back with..."we gotta make sure you can do it.")



Well, that is exactly what you have to come back with. Someone who doesn't know how to do it properly can spread disease, and cause harm with dangerous chemicals that are used by the profession. By your logic we shouldn't license Physicians and Lawyers, because, well, the bad ones will not get enough customers to stay in business. Quite often the professional associations lobby for regulation to keep amatuers and quacks from giving the whole profession a black eye.
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Want to get married? You need a license. WTF???



Probably has something to do with the states not wanting Omar to marry off his 8 year old daughter to a 60 year old geezer for monetary consideration. At least it keeps a couple of 12 year olds from getting married to each other.
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If the gov. thinks it knows what the best use of YOUR land is...they can take it!



Actually the founders wrote that into the Constituion....in an amendment at least. Its called eminent domain.
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Want to drill a well on YOUR property for water? You need a permit.



As well you should. You share the water table with your neighbors. If you or the person you hire doesn't do it properly you can contaminant the water table for miles around. Folks who drill wells usually also need septic tanks and septic disposal fields for sewage. Place the well improperly in relation to the various componenets of your onsite sewage system and you contaminate the water table for everyone.

The reason that the government got involved in regulating most of this stuff is they saw the harm that was done when it was not regulated and stepped in to take control and maintain standards. Notice also that most of the regulatory action cited is the province and responsibility of the state and local governement, not the federal government, and pretty much all 50 states have developed codes to regulate these activies. It is pretty telling that 50 different state governments came up with the same or similar regulations.

For the record, I've spent the majority of my adult working years working for an agency that regulates onsite sewage, food service to the public, drilling of wells for drinking water, disposal of dead bodies, what you can do with your garbage, how your plumbing needs to be installed, places that take care of your kids, tatoo parlors, public swimming pools, exposure to second hand smoke, and yes, facilities that cut hair. There is no way that I would advocate total freedom to do whatever you want in any of these areas. Your hair would curl if you saw some of the things I've seen people try to do....And I get to see behind the curtain because of my regulatory authority, John Q. Public doesn't get to see the incompetence and lack of concern for consequences to others that I get to see.
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