Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
seeker Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
I currently own 2011.5+pak and RB of course, along with Power tracks 2011.
Exceedingly happy with all of the software and anxiously waiting for Christmas.

Have Cubase LE-5, which to me was complex beyond the amount of time
wanted to spend to learn it. Seemed overly complex. PG has spoiled me.

Cakewalk has a $69 special with few extra free goodies-Title of post.

Have a lot more to learn about PG products, but.

Is this Special offer something that would substantially enhance my toolbox ?

For recording, mastering(yet to handle well) and creating music.

Again not in lieu of PG stuff, but to compliment it.

Some of you folks already own Sonar, so would appreciate your
guidance, as always.

Thank you,

Seeker

Last edited by seeker; 10/28/11 03:25 PM.

FrankB

Down The Street vs2015 12-03-2014
Win7, AMD QuadA8-5500,16GB,2TeraHD, Komplete 10
PG Ultra Plus 2016,Alesis 12USB, Sonar Platinum
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,803
R
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
R
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,803
Sonar is a great package, but my question is what do you need that RB does not do?

Are you missing some feature, or process? If you are at the limit with RB, maybe, but if you have not tapped all that RB can do, then wait and see.

Mastering is a deep subject, and can be done in just about any DAW if you have the knowledge, skills and tools. RB can do it, just as Sonar can, but you have to know what and how. Just buying Sonar will not give you or I that skill set. Do a lot of research, and see what it is you think you need, and discuss it here.


Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,816
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,816
Hi Seeker, (a possible Terry Goodfind fan?)

The only reason you would need to upgrade to Sonar X1 Essentials would be if you have some time/tempo based VST or VSTis as RB can not handle them. Essentials is only 32 bit so you would not gain anything ram wise, this is of course assuming you are running a 64 bit OS. IMHO eventually every DAW will be 64 bit and that’s a good thing. Ram is beautiful!

My advice would be to pick a DAW that currently suits your needs, that maybe RB don’t know, and learn it inside and out. Constantly jumping from one DAW to another can get very frustrating.

PS- I have been using Cakewalk DAWs for years and currently am running 64 bit SonarX1 Studio. I hope to upgrade to Producer soon as I used Sonar 5 Producer for 6 years without upgrading and I hope to do that with Producer.


Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
seeker Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
RobH, MarioD,

Very good advice. I already have some very nice plugins for RB
and have not fully learned about them. Thanks to all you folks.

RB...tapped out, not hardly, your right on having too much in front of me.
Ownership or possession of many things does not make an expert.
Not trying to be expert, just want to have decent knowledge.
Am extremely happy with the BIAB, RB, PT tools and the really "free" pro type
plugins. Also my PSR 3000 is a joy to operate with all these tools.

Not missing any meals, but try to watch where the $$$ go. Am planning on
PG upgrades around Christmas, so will stick to those plans.

Most of you folks have been on this journey for quite awhile.

I certainly appreciate your guidance.

Thank you,

Seeker


FrankB

Down The Street vs2015 12-03-2014
Win7, AMD QuadA8-5500,16GB,2TeraHD, Komplete 10
PG Ultra Plus 2016,Alesis 12USB, Sonar Platinum
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Seeker,

I find that when I am in "tool accumulation mode" I don't get anything else done but buying stuff.

Once I settle on the tools I'm going to learn and get down to the business of learning them, simplicity is golden. Too many options = brain freeze.

After reading your posts in this thread, you strike me as a guy who is already well-positioned to "grow into the clothes you've got "

The time to buy new stuff is when you've maxed out your possibilities on the old stuff. Speaking for myself, each new version of BIAB keeps me learning longer than the upgrade cycle. I'm more productive focusing my limited play time on one package rather than dividing it between many.

YMMV

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®

The Bob Doyle Media YouTube channel is known for demonstrating how you can creatively incorporate AI into your projects - from your song projects to avatar building to face swapping, and more!

His latest video, Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box, he explains in detail how you can use the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box with ACE Studio. Follow along as he goes from "nothing" to "something" with his Band-in-a-Box MIDI Melodist track, using ACE Studio to turn it into a vocal track (or tracks, you'll see) by adding lyrics for those notes that will trigger some amazing AI vocals!

Watch: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box


Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!

Paket | Was ist Neu

Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!

Add updated printing options, enhanced tracks settings, smoother use of MGU and SGU (BB files) within PowerTracks, and more with the latest PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 update!

Learn more about this free update for PowerTracks Pro Audio & download it at www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_pt.htm#2024_5

The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!

The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!

Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.

This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245

The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option

Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!

Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,633
Posts735,246
Members38,521
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
SYOTR, Bpnsrinu, DanyLevy, vasilich, maxrob61
38,520 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 180
DC Ron 100
dcuny 86
DrDan 73
Today's Birthdays
Bernard Rasson, John Temmerman
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5