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I agree that it is a cool feature to have especially for what you are doing with the program.
I use Realtrack all the time, and yes they open in RB after being created in BiaB. It tkae a few seconds sometimes a minute, as they have to regenerate, but once the process is done it doesn't have to do it again. I love BiaB, but once i have a song built, i don't go back to BiaB, RB has way to many tools. I practice in RB, it does not have to regenerate every time, just once.
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I bought a behringer mixer that has main and aux outs. I send both outputs to my studio monitors, amp or PA. BIAB output goes to main and my playalong goes to AUX.
This lets you play along in realtime, and it offers some other advanatages too. You have knobs to adjust volume for each part. If the mixer has effects, you can add an overlay of reverb to everything to smooth out the slight differences in sound inherent to real tracks, MIDi and your own playing,
This is a solution you can implement today without having to wait for a program change.
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I have been practicing at school through an amp. Which makes due for the meantime. Still I hope they give us this feature
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Dallon, You have my vote, I miss Biab input monitoring too. Every Daw I know has that option, so why would biab be an exception? Loading in Realband works but it costs a few minutes per song to make it ready for playing. A waste of time.
Rob de Klerk, Dutch singer-songwriter https://www.robdeklerk.nlBiab 2023, Cakewalk, N.I. Komplete 14, Win 10,64, Ozone 9 elements suite, Presonus studio 24c
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I don't really care about recording, I use a daw to record= Cubase. Realband is incredibly weak compared to Cubase.
So, I think they should focus on developing BIAB with better features, and a more updated, modern looking interface."
Does anyone know how to get PG Music to respond to this request?
Wow. Your choice of words here is interesting. You insult the product then ask them to dedicate development time specifically to serve your wants.
Metaphorically, that's a bit like saying "*****, you're way inferior to all the other girls I know, so I spend most of my time with them, not you.. And your wardrobe is out of date, you need some better clothes if you expect me to spend any time with you. Now, How can I get you to make dinner for me?"
The point in a request like yours or in my metaphor is not so much about the truth as you see it, as it is about having the good sense not to insult the person you are about to ask for a favor.
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"Does anyone know how to get PG Music to respond to this request? "
Yeah stand on your head wiggle your ears, and hold your breath. When you start to see pink mice your getting close!
It is constantly funny how folks call out RB as weak. I dare them to generate one freakin' RT or RD with Cubase, let alone generate a midi track from a style! Weak my shiny back side!
Sure Cubase is far older, and more mature in SOME areas. The facts is Cubase is weak in the audio/midi generation development.
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Why would I need to generate tracks? I am a musician, I record my own tracks, I just like to practice with chord changes when I am not with other people.
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If you record all your own tracks, you are right you do not need track generation. Also you can use any DAW you want since none of the fancy features are needed. So i see why you want this in BiaB.
Rodipoet, RB is only slow on the first generation, after that it can be quite fast to re open any song.
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It`s stupid that BIAB don`t have direct input monitoring!!
This is a REALLY REALLY important, obvious and essential point.
Please give us DIRECT INPUT MONITORING.
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It`s stupid that BIAB don`t have direct input monitoring!!
Don't you mean "It's stupid that BIAB doesn't have" ?
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Keith that is pretty good for an ....... Alabamian!
Ducks and covers !
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Hmmm, so it has been years since I posted about having direct live input monitoring, and it is still not available?
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Hmmm, so it has been years since I posted about having direct live input monitoring, and it is still not available? Welcome back Dallon426! Five years is a long time between posts. I don't know if PG Music implemented real time audio input monitoring yet. I do not use the program as you described. I can tell you though there has been a bunch of changes since 2012. What version of Band-in-a-Box are you currently using? I agree that real time audio input monitoring might be a nice feature to have so ... +1.
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As a possibility and not a promise, you may have too quickly discarded the Record Audio button in Biab. I have version 2017 Biab/RB and have a Realtek soundcard with Windows 7.
I have confirmed that Biab will record audio from other programs output. With my soundcard set for Stereo Mix, Biab will record the output of RB or Audacity or Media Player with MME settings on my system. In each program I loaded an audio file, played it and upon staring recording audio in Biab, Biab recorded the audio input along with the generated style while I could hear both in my headphones.
I did not address latency at all in my experiment.
What you should be able to do is to input your instrument into RB, Run a VST and send the output to the audio recording input of Biab. Both programs can be open and running at the same time without issue on my system.
In theory, you should be able to load a song in Biab for practice, generate the song, Select Record Audio and play along with the Biab song using your instrument playing through RB and hearing the RB audio output of your instrument in Biab recording onto the Audio Track along with the Biab backing track. At the end of the song, hit stop. When the Save Window opens, select the 'Take Again' button so the song and audio are not saved and disc space wasted...
Load and generate another song, select Record Audio and repeat.
Disclaimer: I repeat that I only confirmed Biab will hear and record RB audio output. I know that I can hear my instrument without recording in RB so theoretically for practice, one should be able to play a Biab track while hearing their live instrument output from RB at the same time. Latency may be an issue when using a VST. Don't know.
This is only a suggestion for those who may be interested in further research to see if this is a viable option to practice a live instrument with a Biab track. If it doesn't work for you, you've wasted less time than it takes to read this thread.
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Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 07/31/17 08:47 AM.
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Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
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Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
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Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!
We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!
Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.
You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.
See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.
Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
New with the DAW Plugin Version 6.0, released with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows: the Reaper® Panel!
This new panel offers built-in specific support for the Reaper® DAW API allowing direct transfer of Band-in-a-Box® files to/from Reaper® tracks!
When you run the Plugin from Reaper®, there is a panel to set the following options:
-BB Track(s) to send: This allows you to select the Plugin tracks that will be sent Reaper.
-Destination Reaper Track: This lets you select the destination Reaper track to receive media content from the Plugin.
-At Bar: You can select a bar in Reaper where the Plugin tracks should be placed.
-Start Below Selected Track: This allows you to place the Plugin tracks below the destination Reaper track.
-Overwrite Reaper Track: You can overwrite previous content on the destination Reaper track.
-Move to Project Folder: With this option, you can move the Plugin tracks to the Reaper project folder.
-Send Reaper Instructions Enable this option to send the Reaper Instructions instead of rendering audio tracks, which is faster.
-Render Audio & Instructions: Enable this option to generate audio files and the Reaper instructions.
-Send Tracks After Generating: This allows the Plugin to automatically send tracks to Reaper after generating.
-Send Audio for MIDI Track: Enable this option to send rendered audio for MIDI tracks.
-Send RealCharts with Audio: If this option is enabled, Enable this option to send RealCharts with audio.
Check out this video highlighting the new Reaper®-specific features: Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Video
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