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Salve, sono nuovo.
Ho visto alcune demo del BIAB.
Bello, ma non capisco se sia possibile l'utilizzo come arranger comandato da master esterno.
In sostanza, da tastiera, si dovrebbero trasmettere via midi/usb gli accordi e, stabilito lo style (meglio se personalizzabile), farlo suonare dal BIAB in realtime.

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Band in a Box non è un arranger in tempo reale, serve a costruire delle basi musicali da suonare mentre ti esibisci o per suonare semplicemente insieme, e tante altre cose: comporre arrangiamenti, imparare a suonare, fare pratica su pezzi difficili, trovare gli accordi di un brano MIDI o audio, ecc.ecc.

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Mi rivolgo soprattutto a Maurig.
Conosco bene le motivazioni per cui PGMusic non implementa la funzione arranger e le condivido dal punto di vista strettamente musicale/professionale.
Ma BIAB fa migliaia di cose e non guasterebbe avere la funzione arranger per "giocare", senza nessuna pretesa professionale.
Magari se la chiede un "moderatore" si hanno più possibilita...
Un saluto.

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Sarebbe piaciuta anche a me, ma mi hanno sempre detto che non è quello per cui è stato pensato il programma.
D'altra parte, esiste sul mercato un arranger in tempo reale, One Man Band, che funziona discretamente e costa poco.
Io l'ho comprato, ma anche se ha ormai raggiunto un buon livello di semplicitá, nell'uso dimostra che l'uso di un pc come arranger in tempo reale è mooolto più scomodo rispetto a qualsiasi tastiera/arranger, anche economica.
Per cui, diamo a Cesare quel che è di Cesare, a BiaB quel che è di BiaB.

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Hai ragione, ma stasera ho un pò di tempo e vorrei approfondire l'argomento.
Solo per il piacere della discussione, se qualcuno vuole intervenire.
Il motivo per cui PGMusic non ha mai voluto implementare l'arranger in bb è che gli stili degli accompagnamenti sono ottimizzati per la durata dell'accordo sottostante. Per cui ci sono più versioni ottimizzate per la durata di 2 beat, 1 battuta, 2 e 4 battute. Siccome bb conosce la durata di ogni singolo accordo, sceglie quelle più appropriate e di conseguenza l'accompagnamento è ottimizzato, vario e non ripetitivo ( e quindi più professionale).
Lavorando come arranger, una volta riconosciuto l'accordo che stiamo suonando sulla tastiera, non saprebbe a priori quanti beat o battute durerà, per cui se sceglie la versione più breve corre il rischio di noiose ripetizioni mentre se sceglie la versione lunga il rischio è di troncarla senza un senso musicale compiuto.
Tutto vero, ma le tastiere arranger come fanno?
Io non ne ho mai usata una, ma non vedo un modo elegante musicalmente per evitare i problemi di cui sopra.
Ed è questa la ragione per cui auspico che PGMusic prima o poi ceda e ci regali l'arranger: non può essere peggio di quelli esistenti.
Certo non aggiunge nessun valore a bb, ma proprio bb ha un suo punto di forza nel fatto che affianca prestazioni professionali e una serie di utilities per giocare / divertirsi con la musica. E l'arranger non sfigurerebbe in questa categoria.
C'è qualcuno che ha esperienze in merito?
Saluti a tutti.

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