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#179047 - 11/15/12 05:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Audio Chord Wizard
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Hi All.

Sorry if this is convered somewhere else - but I couldnt find it. I did use the search ... honest.

Here's my problem. When I import a (MP3) song using ACW, I first need to set bar one. I've got that sorted I think, and once set correctly it all plays nicely in the ACW window. There is about 8 bars intro, then bar one, and then away.

But when I send it to BIAB, it loses the 8 bar intro, and all the timing is wrong. ANy ideas why this happens?

Thanks
Tom

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#179048 - 11/15/12 05:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: tommohawk]
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Two things:
1.Think about what you said."Set Bar One" then you say you set bar 9 as bar 1.Bar 1 has to be set as the first beat of the first full bar.This includes the intro.
2.To get the best results first set bar 1 then start playback and tap F8 on the 1st beat of every bar. DO NOT MISS ANY.Then send it to BIAB.
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#179049 - 11/15/12 07:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: silvertones]
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If you miss one it fills it in for you (and continues trying to fill them in until stopped). Sometimes it does a fine job after 2 measures of tapping.
If you're late tapping one you can go slide it into place later.

But setting bar one correctly is important. Selecting the correct choice in the popup when sent back is important too.
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#179050 - 11/16/12 08:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: rharv]
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I was thinking I'm in RB. It's ACW although the same is a little different in the way it works.That dialog when you send to BIAB is very important.It does a good job of making a tempo map to line things up.I use the ACW all the time to make covers. I don't remember the last time I sat and wrote out a tune on paper and then entered the chords one by one on the chord sheet. Wonderful toll once you get used to it.
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#179051 - 11/19/12 08:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: silvertones]
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Hi Guys

Thanks for replies, and sorry for slow response.

I tried setting bar 1 at first whole bar, ie skipping the upbeats, and this sounds fine in ACW window. All the bars come in spot on. Theres a grey bar marked 0 representing the upbeats, then off it goes on bar one.
BUT I still get a problem when i send to BIAB. The chord layout looks the same as it did in the ACW window, but without the upbeats bar. But when I play, the audio track start OK, but nothin happens on the chord screen for about 5 beats, so the chords screen is alwys 5 beats behind where it should be.
I've played around with this for ages - I cant see any other way of doing it. I'm also heartily sick of the track I was trying to play!!
Cheers
Tom

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#179052 - 11/21/12 07:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: tommohawk]
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"BUT I still get a problem when i send to BIAB. "

Slow down this process. When you send to BiaB, do you see a dialogue with options? Or does it just go back to BiaB?
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#179053 - 11/22/12 05:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: rharv]
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Hi. When I'm happy it sounds OK in ACW window, I hit the button marked ..... ahhhhh hold on.

I've just done this again, and as it imports I get a ACW utilities window with the option to "make a tempo map to sync auidio file with midi" or similar. I never did this cos I didnt think I was using a midi file.

However, when I hit that buttoms its all good! s I think I'm sorted - thanks for the pointer.

Just wonder why BiAB doesnt do this by default.

Many thanks
Tom

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#179054 - 11/22/12 05:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Audio Chord Wizard [Re: tommohawk]
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This dialog doesn't come up in RB.It's a little easier.MIDI is used as the clock to speed up and slow down the audio file that may not be of perfect tempo.This way you can add RTs or midi parts and they will follow those slight tempo changes.
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