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#179512 - 11/20/12 12:39 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Don Gaynor]
jphillips Offline

Registered: 05/28/08
Posts: 344
A nylon-string Silvertone mail ordered from Sears in 1964. I loaned it to my brother a few years ago. Maybe I'll ask him to bring it to Thanksgiving dinner so I can see how it's doing.


#179513 - 11/20/12 01:41 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: jphillips]
ROG Offline

Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2467
Loc: York, England
When I was seven, I really wanted an electric guitar and I gave my parents no peace until they finally took me down to the local music store. My hands were still too small even for a 3/4 size guitar, so even though what I really, really, wanted was a Fender Stratocaster in red, I ended up with a Uke.

I've lost count of the number of guitars I've had over the years, but I've still got that same uke.


#179514 - 11/20/12 02:21 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: ROG]
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Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5532
Loc: Florida
A (used) 1960 Harmony Monterey Leader for my 14th birthday ($25). The guitar Elvis played in "GI Blues" and smashed to pieces in "Roustabout" (No, eddie, not the SAME one). Found it in a closet a few months ago and had to glue the bridge back together. Still sounds pretty good.
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#179515 - 11/20/12 03:07 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: floyd jane]
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It was a used Kay acoustic that had telephone wires (13-58s if I remember correctly) for strings and ultra high action, I forgot what I paid for it but it wasn’t much! Six months later I went to a music store and bought a new Harmony acoustic that still had the telephone wires for strings but the action was good enough that I could play it!

From there it was a Fender Jaguar, a Country Gentlemen, a Carvin double neck 6/12 to now a small collection of inexpensive guitars. But it is funny that today my jazz box is strung with 12-52 flat wounds! That is the best way, IMHO, to get a smooth jazz sound.
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#179516 - 11/20/12 03:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: MarioD]
jazzband Offline

Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 1826
Loc: Kent UK
on sunday lunch time i heard george Lewis playing "when the saints" on family favortes on the radio and i was hooked first thing monday morning i got my father to take me to jennings a local music store and brought a clarinet on hire purchase sent the fdamily mad practising 20 hours a day and within 3 month i was playing in a new orleans jazzband not bad for a fifteen year old

Dave Hoskins

Edited by jazzband (11/20/12 03:58 PM)
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#179517 - 11/20/12 03:59 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: MarioD]
Danny C. Offline

Registered: 03/18/04
Posts: 6459
Loc: South Louisiana

Great question, great topic. In fact so good that it has me on a quest to find my 1st instrument, an old square neck Spanish acoustic that I think came with my ancestors on their initial trip from the Canary Islands. I am told that a cousin of mine has kept it since I gave it to him when we were children . . . the saga begins.

I will post findings as they occur.

Danny C.

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#179518 - 11/20/12 04:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia USA

Conn Victor trumpet, 4th grade, supplied by the school

Not counting the flutaphone, used in third grade to determine who got issued the band instruments.

Mac, was your Olds cornet an Ambassafor? I have one of those as my knock-around practice while travelling horn. Thing is built like a tank. I bought it from Eddie and fixed it up.

Love that typo in Ambassador. "What's that Ambassafor?" -- "Why it be for makin' music!"

Yes, bear in mind that it was a used horn that Pop brought me. Don't know where he got it or from whom and wish I still had it, only had it for a little over one year when it was obviously time for something a bit better and Pop took it out of my hands one day and returned with an old silver plated NY Bach "Apollo" model trumpet that featured a bell with a gold lining. That horn soon turned into a brand new NY Bach Strad ML bore that I had for at least the next twenty years.

Horns. Too many have passed thru these hands by now...

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#179519 - 11/20/12 04:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Danny C.]
Lawrie Offline

Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 1439
Loc: NSW, Australia
Hmm, I was around 8 or 9, and the first instrument I actually learned was piano accordeon - don't panic, being a gentleman I no longer try to make noises on one (apologies to Furry)

But that was my sisters', then I tried to learn a bit of piano on my grandmothers piano, but my teacher wasn't really helping and I was lazy anyhow, eventually I got hooked by the local brass band and learned trombone.

Finally, when I was about 14 my mum bought me my very own trombone, a Besson Academy 403 (professional level). I still have that horn and it still sounds great, shame the slide is so ordinary

Current stable has grown a bit but the 2 horns I play most are my Bach 42A (big bore) and my custom Rath R10F (small bore).

One of the surprises of my collection though is a King trombone from about 1918 - can't be exact about the date - that was made for the US Navy, engraved U.S.N. at the factory. I even have the original case, also with U.S.N on it in what looks like it might have been gold leaf, but someone painted over it

This horn sounds amazing and I plan to use it more often, especially for the odd Dixie gig I do, but my absolute favourite is my Custom Rath - the thing almost plays itself
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#179520 - 11/20/12 06:42 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Lawrie]
pwarren Offline

Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 826
Loc: BC, Canada
I guess my first instrument was a violin my parents bought me when I was around ten or so. It was used and I don't remember the brand. I played it for a year or so until I found out violin wasn't a 'cool' instrument.

I didn't play anything until I was in my 20s and wanted to jam with some musician friends. Since there was a drummer and a couple of guitarists I decided bass might be the way to go so I bought an Odyssey bass and started trying to learn to play it. I consider this to be my real 'first' instrument.

I have since owned a number of basses. A Fender P-Lyte and Rickenbacker 4001 both of which I've since sold. I currently have a Gretsch Committee, Tunebass Maniac and Ibanez SR500 and SR300.
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#179521 - 11/20/12 07:14 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Lawrie]
eddie1261 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4019
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
My first instrument. I was 4 yrs 10 months old when I started music lessons.

If you say "I can't" ..... I'm pretty sure you won't.

#179522 - 11/20/12 11:12 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: eddie1261]
JohnJohnJohn Offline

Registered: 06/25/12
Posts: 2069
like others have said, I had limited access to family instruments like an old archtop and an out-of-tune piano received from the church that closed down the street. But the first instrument that was mine was a Harmony Rocket my dad bought me in the 70's. The one in the pic looks like it but my first one had only a single pickup. It got stolen from the backseat of my 64 Rambler and I went to a local music shop and replaced it with the dual pickup version. Later gave it to a buddy when I bought my Les Paul.

Just the other day I thought I'd pick one up cheap on the internet for old times sake and was shocked at how much they go for!

Edited by JohnJohnJohn (11/20/12 11:14 PM)

#179523 - 11/21/12 12:30 AM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 7255
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO, USA
Knackered old upright in the basement that had to have been built into the house. We had to disassemble it to get it out of the house.

Never held tune, missing a couple hammers, ivory pieces broken off in various degrees in middle 3 octaves or so. But we used it until we got a Baldwin in the family room upstairs.

3rd grade recorder.

5th grade garage sale Olds trombone.

12th grade Peavey Milestone Electric guitar for graduation present.

#179524 - 11/21/12 10:51 AM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: eddie1261]
Notes Norton Offline

Registered: 07/06/00
Posts: 4258
Loc: Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.

<...>I am in the school that instruments should be played and not displayed like museum piecs, so it gives me joy to know someone skilled is using it.

Which is why I sold my Modele 26 and even my Mark VI tenor - I really preferred the H.Couf. Perhaps the favorites of all I owned. I'm now playing a custom finished MacSax that I dearly love. The intonation is much better than either the VI or the Couf, the tone is big and bold, and it is very free blowing. I can't make a direct comparison with my old saxes, but I'm glad I didn't keep them.

I have a 1970 Gibson ES-330 that used to be my favorite guitar. As soon as prices for collectibles goes back up, it's on the auction block. I love my Parker so much, I hardly touch the Gibson anymore. BTW, slightly on-topic, it was my first electric guitar. I also had a Japan Epiphone flat-top, the model number has long since faded from the blue tag inside the body.

Every once in a great while I have a little nostalgia for my old instruments, but other than the resale value of the VI (which has been blown out of proportion for the horn), I'm glad I sold them because if they were here, they would just collect dust. An instrument needs to be played.

And many of those first instruments, the Silvertone/Danelectro, the Harmony, or Kay helped a youngster learn about music and in the hands of someone with talent, were able to make great music. Some of the high-end instruments of the not-so-distant past were hard to play, had poor intonation, but were used to make great music.

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#179525 - 11/21/12 01:13 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Notes Norton]
Mac Offline

Registered: 05/29/00
Posts: 38502
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia USA
Hey you know what?

I forgot about what was my real very own "first instrument".

It was a plastic "Flutophone" -- a late 40's or early 50's marketed thing that was basically a Recorder made of plastic with more of a police whistle type mouthpiece and a large bell at the bidness end.

Worked fairly well for figuring out songs in the key of C that were based on the Major Scale.

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#179526 - 11/21/12 02:57 PM [Off-Topic] Re: What was the first instrument you owned? [Re: Mac]
Curmudgeon Offline

Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 2689
Loc: Henderson, NV

I forgot about what was my real very own "first instrument".

I did too. Actually it was my brother's baritone horn, which was bigger than I was. In 6th grade, a woman teacher came after school and taught us to play using the do re me scale. When I got to junior high school, the band teacher gave me a little test. He pointed at a note and said, "What note is that?"

I hesitated a bit and said, "Let's see."

He said, "Your right, it's C. You're in."

Needless to say, I didn't last.

Don S.
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