Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#180985 11/27/12 01:38 AM
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
T
Topsy Offline OP
Newbie
OP Offline
Newbie
T
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Er der nogen der har prøvet at lave en
patch til BIAB fra bunden af ?

Har fundet ud af hvad type S4'eren er men
om jeg laver det korrekt er jeg lidt i tvivl
om.

Vedlægger lidt af hvordan jeg er begyndt.
Bruger TextEdit. Skal jeg gemme som HTML f.eks.?
Kan jeg bare smide dokumentet ind i BIAB's mappe ?

<patch/program change>.<bank0/controller#0/MSB>
0=Perihellon; synth
1=Rock Piano; keyboard
2=Orchestra; brass
3=Stereo6Str; guitar
4=WindEnsmbl; sax
5=Slap It!; bas
6=FireStrings; string
7=Quadratix; synth
8=D4 Pwr Kit; perc

Venlig hilsen
Topsy, Møn

Last edited by lindbjerg; 12/01/12 03:08 PM.
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Hej Topsy

Det er ret modigt, at gå i gang med sådan en opgave, men det kan lade sig gøre. Jjeg kender ikke Alesis S4, men er den GM kompatibel? Jeg bringer et citat nedenfor, hvor der står lidt om patch filer

Band-in-a-Box Patch Maps

These files allow you to easily access patches on higher banks of your synthesizer, where patches greater than the basic 128 General MIDI (GM) patches reside. Most customers will find the default program settings sufficient, and patch maps for some common synths are included with the program.

Since PG Music doesn't have access to all of the various synthesizers available, most of the patch maps below have been generously provided by our customers. If you would like to report any problems with these files, or if you would like to submit a new or updated patchmap, please send us an email to [Email]support@pgmusic.com.[/Email]

Band-in-a-Box Patch Map Files (*.PAT) - These files can have any name as long as they have the .pat file extension. Save them in your Band-in-a-Box Folder, and choose them by going to the patches on higher banks dialog ("+" button

Jeg har åbnet en *.pat fil i Notesbloksom du kan se nedenfor:

[Roland SC-8850: SC-88 Map]
1.0.2= Piano 1
2.0.2= Piano 2
3.0.2= Piano 3
4.0.2= Honky-tonk
5.0.2= E.Piano 1
6.0.2= E.Piano 2
7.0.2= Harpsichord
8.0.2= Clav.
9.0.2= Celesta
10.0.2= Glockenspiel
11.0.2= Music Box
12.0.2= Vibraphone
13.0.2= Marimba
14.0.2= Xylophone
15.0.2= Tubularbell
16.0.2= Santur
17.0.2= Organ 1
18.0.2= Organ 2
19.0.2= Organ 3
20.0.2= ChurchOrg.1
21.0.2= Reed Organ
22.0.2= AccordionFr
23.0.2= Harmonica
24.0.2= Bandneon
25.0.2= Nylonstr.Gt
26.0.2= Steelstr.Gt
27.0.2= Jazz Gt.
28.0.2= Clean Gt.
29.0.2= Muted Gt.
30.0.2= OverdriveGt
31.0.2= DistortionGt
32.0.2= Gt.Harmonix
33.0.2= AcousticBs.
34.0.2= FingeredBs.
35.0.2= Picked Bass
36.0.2= FretlessBs.
37.0.2= Slap Bass 1
38.0.2= Slap Bass 2
39.0.2= SynthBass 1
40.0.2= SynthBass 2
41.0.2= Violin
42.0.2= Viola
43.0.2= Cello
44.0.2= Contrabass
45.0.2= Tremolo Str
46.0.2= Pizz.Str.
47.0.2= Harp
48.0.2= Timpani
49.0.2= Strings
50.0.2= SlowStrings
51.0.2= SynStrings1
52.0.2= SynStrings2
53.0.2= Choir Aahs
54.0.2= Voice Oohs
55.0.2= SynVox
56.0.2= Orch.Hit
57.0.2= Trumpet
58.0.2= Trombone
59.0.2= Tuba
60.0.2= Muted Tp.
61.0.2= FrenchHorns
62.0.2= Brass 1
63.0.2= SynthBrass 1
64.0.2= Syn.Brass 2
65.0.2= Soprano Sax
66.0.2= Alto Sax
67.0.2= Tenor Sax
68.0.2= BaritoneSax
69.0.2= Oboe
70.0.2= EnglishHorn
71.0.2= Bassoon
72.0.2= Clarinet
73.0.2= Piccolo
74.0.2= Flute
75.0.2= Recorder
76.0.2= Pan Flute
77.0.2= Bottle Blow
78.0.2= Shakuhachi
79.0.2= Whistle
80.0.2= Ocarina
81.0.2= Square Wave
82.0.2= Saw Wave
83.0.2= SynCalliope
84.0.2= ChifferLead
85.0.2= Charang
86.0.2= Solo Vox
87.0.2= 5th Saw
88.0.2= Bass & Lead
89.0.2= Fantasia
90.0.2= Warm Pad
91.0.2= Polysynth
92.0.2= Space Voice
93.0.2= Bowed Glass
94.0.2= Metal Pad
95.0.2= Halo Pad
96.0.2= Sweep Pad
97.0.2= Ice Rain
98.0.2= Soundtrack
99.0.2= Crystal
100.0.2= Atmosphere
101.0.2= Brightness
102.0.2= Goblin
103.0.2= Echo Drops
104.0.2= Star Theme
105.0.2= Sitar
106.0.2= Banjo
107.0.2= Shamisen
108.0.2= Koto
109.0.2= Kalimba
110.0.2= Bag Pipe
111.0.2= Fiddle
112.0.2= Shanai
113.0.2= Tinkle Bell
114.0.2= Agogo
115.0.2= Steel Drums
116.0.2= Woodblock
117.0.2= Taiko
118.0.2= Melo. Tom 1
119.0.2= Synth Drum
120.0.2= Reverse Cym.
121.0.2= Gt.FretNoiz
122.0.2= BreathNoise
123.0.2= Seashore
124.0.2= Bird
125.0.2= Telephone 1
126.0.2= Helicopter
127.0.2= Applause
128.0.2= Gun Shot


Prøv at lave den i Notesblok og gem med filnavn.pat

Held og lykke med projektet.

Venlig hilsen
Lindbjerg

Last edited by lindbjerg; 12/01/12 03:09 PM.

Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
T
Topsy Offline OP
Newbie
OP Offline
Newbie
T
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Hej Lindbjerg - tak for dit svar.

Nej Alesis S4 lydmodulet er ikke GM kompertibelt, det
er vist nok derfor jeg må lave en patch som er i overens-
stemmelse med S4rens instr. organisering.

Har fundet ud af S4 bruger Bank Select Command (controller 0)
og det er jo det samme som Roland, så jeg vil prøve at sætte
det op som du har skitseret.

Tak.

Venlig hilsen

Topsy

Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
T
Topsy Offline OP
Newbie
OP Offline
Newbie
T
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Hej igen igen Lindbjerg.

Nu har jeg smidt S4 patchen ind i mappen.

Når jeg vælger higher bank fra biab er den
greyed out hvorimod SC88 er anvendelig.

Så åbner jeg sæføli begge i TextEdit og der
kan jeg ikke se jeg har gjort noget forkert.

Kan du?

Vh

Torben, Møn

PS: Hvordan vedlægger jeg screenshots ?

Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Uuups
Jeg har simpelt hen ikke set, der er kommet en ny post. Jeg undskylder ydmygst og vil svare hurtigst muligt.
Vh
Lindbjerg


Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Her er svaret på hvordan man indsætter billeder:

For at tilføje et billede til din meddelelse eller signatur, skal du have et billede klar på en web server. Det kan f.eks. være et billede fra din personlige hjemmeside. For at anbringe et billede i en meddelelse, brug følgende Markup Tag:

[image]http://www.url_to_image.com/image_name.gif[/image]

Hvis du f.eks. har et billede som hedder cateye.gif og det findes på din hjemmeside på http://www.mywebsite.com/pics, skal du bruge følgende billed markup:

[image]http://www.mywebsite.com/pics/cateye.gif[/image]

Du kan gøre det samme med din signatur. Klik på muligheden, som findes på alle sider. Klik herefter på "Personlig information, email, password...". Se efter signaturboksen og tast den ønskede information, inklusiv billeder/markup, som ovenfor nævnt.

Bemærk: For at forumet skal fungere hurtigt for alle, anbefales det at billedstørrelsen ikke overstiger 35k.

Man kan altså ikke bare indsætte billeder, men det kan lade sig gøre.
Venlig hilsen
Lindbjerg


Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Her er en mere omfattende instruktion, som jeg har hentet på support siderne. Det er på engelsk, men det er formodentlig ikke et problem:

You can manually create a patch map by using a simple word processor, such as TextEdit. We will use the Roland SC8820 as our synthesizer example.

If you want to add comments to the PAT file you must insert a semi-colon. Here is an example:

; This is how you would add comments to a pat file.
; You can add as many comments into the file as you wish
; as long as you insert a semi-colon. It is a good idea to
; include some basic documentation - information about what
; synthesizer(s) the patch map can be used with, and what
; banks of sounds it allows you to access.

One thing you will need to know is which controller your synth or module uses to send bank changes. This information can usually be found in your synth documentation. As a general rule:

Roland uses controller 0 (MSB)
Yamaha uses controller 32 (LSB)
Korg will often use both or a combination
You enter patches into your patch map using the following format:

<patch/program change>.<bank0/controller#0/MSB>.<bank32/Controller#32/LSB>=PatchName

Your first bank should consist of 128 patches. In most cases this is the GM bank which is Bank 0. You do not need a header for Bank 0 like you would with the other banks, and you only need the patch number. For other banks, you need to insert a header, such as "[Bank 1]". Below is a sample patch map. Note that in this example, Bank 0 only has 7 patches. Normally there would be 128.

--------------------

; This is a sample patch map for the Roland SC8820
; The SC8820 Uses Controller 0, which is also known as MSB

1=Piano 1
2=Piano 2
3=Piano 3
4=Honky-tonk
5=E.Piano 1
6=E.Piano 2
7=Harpsichord

[Bank 1]
1.1=Upright Piano
2.1=Pop Piano
3.1=EG+Rhodes 1
6.1=E.Piano 3
7.1=Harpsichord2
8.1=Clav. 2
9.1=Pop Celesta

[Bank 2]
1.2=Mild Piano
2.2=Rock Piano
3.2=EG+Rhodes 2
7.2=Harpsichord 3
8.2=Atk. Clav.1
16.2=Santur 3
17.2=Ful Organ 1

--------------------

As an example, let's look at Bank 1. The first instrument is Patch number 1, Bank (MSB) 1, and the instrument name is Upright Piano.

Some synths or modules use controller 32, which is also known as LSB. It follows the same principle as above. Below is a sample patch map.

--------------------

; This is an example of controller 32, as well a synth that uses
; both controller 0 and 32.
; In this case, you do not need to enter a bank header like the Controller 0 patch maps

1=Piano 1
2=Piano 2
3=Piano 3
4=Honky-tonk
5=E.Piano 1
6=E.Piano 2
7=Harpsichord
1.0.1=Upright Piano
2.0.1=Pop Piano
3.0.1=EG+Rhodes 1
6.2.1=E.Piano 3
7.2.12=Harpsichord2
8.2.12=Clav. 2
9.2.12=Pop Celesta

--------------------

Again the first number represents the Patch number. The second number represents the controller 0 bank number, and the third number is the controller 32 bank number.

1.0.1=Upright Piano
Patch number 1, controller 0 bank 0, controller 32 bank 1.

6.2.1=E.Piano 3
Patch number 6, controller 0 bank 2, controller 32 bank 1.

9.2.12=Pop Celesta
Patch number 9, controller 0 bank 2, controller 32 bank 12.

Once you have finished creating your file, give it a name such as "MyPat.pat". "MyPat" can be any name you choose. Put your patch (*.Pat) file that you created into your Band-in-a-Box Folder (usually C:\bb), and you are finished. If you create a patch map that is not available for download on our website, and you would like to share it with other Band-in-a-Box users, please email the file as an attachment to support@pgmusic.com.


Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
T
Topsy Offline OP
Newbie
OP Offline
Newbie
T
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Hej Lindbjerg.

De er godt nok noet a en omvej for at sende et billed - tak for kaffe
hvorfor i alverden kan PG ikke gøre som alle andre ?

Og max 35 K - come on !

Jeg har tidligt læst alt det du sender til mig.

Du svarer ikke på billederne. Hvorfor er
den ene aktiv og min S4 patch passiv selvom de
står skreven ens ?

h

Torben
Møn

Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
T
Topsy Offline OP
Newbie
OP Offline
Newbie
T
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Og hvorfor i alverden står der fortsæt og ikke send ?

Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Den engelske tekst var "proseed"
Lindbjerg


Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,140
Jeg har søgt efter en patch på nettet, men har ikke fundet nogen. Jeg ved heller ikke, om det er formålstjenligt at bruge en 'iikke' GM' hardware synth. Jeg har skrottet både min Alesis Q6 og min Roland Sound CanvasM -GS 64, da lydene fra gode softsynths og samlere er meget bedre. Men der kan selvfølgelig være lyde, som du ikke kan undvære. Jeg har aldrig selv prøvet at lave en .pat fil og kan ikke komme med flere gode råd. Måske er der andre her på forummet, som kan hjælpe? Ellers, - prøv at kontakte PgMusics support. De kan med sikkerhed besvare dine spørgsmål.
Glædelig jul
Lindbjerg


Musiker. Har lille musikproduktions virksomhed (nodeskrivning, undervisning, studie, oversættelse af bl.a. BIAB). Hvis du synes Band-in-a-Box er vanskelig at komme i gang med, kan jeg tilbyde undervisning via Skype, - også i Cubase. Se min Facebook profil Lindbjerg Musikproduktion
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...

2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:

Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed

Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,399
Posts732,551
Members38,442
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
danielsk, Mark Morgan, zagrajbarke, Ernest J, Izzy
38,442 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 199
Al-David 132
DC Ron 115
rsdean 85
dcuny 83
Today's Birthdays
(charlie), WobblyGstring
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5