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#180985 - 11/27/12 03:38 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Alesis S4 patch til BIAB
Topsy Offline
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Registered: 11/27/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Møn
Er der nogen der har prøvet at lave en
patch til BIAB fra bunden af ?

Har fundet ud af hvad type S4'eren er men
om jeg laver det korrekt er jeg lidt i tvivl
om.

Vedlægger lidt af hvordan jeg er begyndt.
Bruger TextEdit. Skal jeg gemme som HTML f.eks.?
Kan jeg bare smide dokumentet ind i BIAB's mappe ?

<patch/program change>.<bank0/controller#0/MSB>
0=Perihellon; synth
1=Rock Piano; keyboard
2=Orchestra; brass
3=Stereo6Str; guitar
4=WindEnsmbl; sax
5=Slap It!; bas
6=FireStrings; string
7=Quadratix; synth
8=D4 Pwr Kit; perc

Venlig hilsen
Topsy, Møn


Edited by lindbjerg (12/01/12 05:08 PM)

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#180986 - 11/28/12 11:11 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
lindbjerg Offline
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Posts: 909
Loc: Danmark
Hej Topsy

Det er ret modigt, at gå i gang med sådan en opgave, men det kan lade sig gøre. Jjeg kender ikke Alesis S4, men er den GM kompatibel? Jeg bringer et citat nedenfor, hvor der står lidt om patch filer

Band-in-a-Box Patch Maps

These files allow you to easily access patches on higher banks of your synthesizer, where patches greater than the basic 128 General MIDI (GM) patches reside. Most customers will find the default program settings sufficient, and patch maps for some common synths are included with the program.

Since PG Music doesn't have access to all of the various synthesizers available, most of the patch maps below have been generously provided by our customers. If you would like to report any problems with these files, or if you would like to submit a new or updated patchmap, please send us an email to [Email]support@pgmusic.com.[/Email]

Band-in-a-Box Patch Map Files (*.PAT) - These files can have any name as long as they have the .pat file extension. Save them in your Band-in-a-Box Folder, and choose them by going to the patches on higher banks dialog ("+" button

Jeg har åbnet en *.pat fil i Notesbloksom du kan se nedenfor:

[Roland SC-8850: SC-88 Map]
1.0.2= Piano 1
2.0.2= Piano 2
3.0.2= Piano 3
4.0.2= Honky-tonk
5.0.2= E.Piano 1
6.0.2= E.Piano 2
7.0.2= Harpsichord
8.0.2= Clav.
9.0.2= Celesta
10.0.2= Glockenspiel
11.0.2= Music Box
12.0.2= Vibraphone
13.0.2= Marimba
14.0.2= Xylophone
15.0.2= Tubularbell
16.0.2= Santur
17.0.2= Organ 1
18.0.2= Organ 2
19.0.2= Organ 3
20.0.2= ChurchOrg.1
21.0.2= Reed Organ
22.0.2= AccordionFr
23.0.2= Harmonica
24.0.2= Bandneon
25.0.2= Nylonstr.Gt
26.0.2= Steelstr.Gt
27.0.2= Jazz Gt.
28.0.2= Clean Gt.
29.0.2= Muted Gt.
30.0.2= OverdriveGt
31.0.2= DistortionGt
32.0.2= Gt.Harmonix
33.0.2= AcousticBs.
34.0.2= FingeredBs.
35.0.2= Picked Bass
36.0.2= FretlessBs.
37.0.2= Slap Bass 1
38.0.2= Slap Bass 2
39.0.2= SynthBass 1
40.0.2= SynthBass 2
41.0.2= Violin
42.0.2= Viola
43.0.2= Cello
44.0.2= Contrabass
45.0.2= Tremolo Str
46.0.2= Pizz.Str.
47.0.2= Harp
48.0.2= Timpani
49.0.2= Strings
50.0.2= SlowStrings
51.0.2= SynStrings1
52.0.2= SynStrings2
53.0.2= Choir Aahs
54.0.2= Voice Oohs
55.0.2= SynVox
56.0.2= Orch.Hit
57.0.2= Trumpet
58.0.2= Trombone
59.0.2= Tuba
60.0.2= Muted Tp.
61.0.2= FrenchHorns
62.0.2= Brass 1
63.0.2= SynthBrass 1
64.0.2= Syn.Brass 2
65.0.2= Soprano Sax
66.0.2= Alto Sax
67.0.2= Tenor Sax
68.0.2= BaritoneSax
69.0.2= Oboe
70.0.2= EnglishHorn
71.0.2= Bassoon
72.0.2= Clarinet
73.0.2= Piccolo
74.0.2= Flute
75.0.2= Recorder
76.0.2= Pan Flute
77.0.2= Bottle Blow
78.0.2= Shakuhachi
79.0.2= Whistle
80.0.2= Ocarina
81.0.2= Square Wave
82.0.2= Saw Wave
83.0.2= SynCalliope
84.0.2= ChifferLead
85.0.2= Charang
86.0.2= Solo Vox
87.0.2= 5th Saw
88.0.2= Bass & Lead
89.0.2= Fantasia
90.0.2= Warm Pad
91.0.2= Polysynth
92.0.2= Space Voice
93.0.2= Bowed Glass
94.0.2= Metal Pad
95.0.2= Halo Pad
96.0.2= Sweep Pad
97.0.2= Ice Rain
98.0.2= Soundtrack
99.0.2= Crystal
100.0.2= Atmosphere
101.0.2= Brightness
102.0.2= Goblin
103.0.2= Echo Drops
104.0.2= Star Theme
105.0.2= Sitar
106.0.2= Banjo
107.0.2= Shamisen
108.0.2= Koto
109.0.2= Kalimba
110.0.2= Bag Pipe
111.0.2= Fiddle
112.0.2= Shanai
113.0.2= Tinkle Bell
114.0.2= Agogo
115.0.2= Steel Drums
116.0.2= Woodblock
117.0.2= Taiko
118.0.2= Melo. Tom 1
119.0.2= Synth Drum
120.0.2= Reverse Cym.
121.0.2= Gt.FretNoiz
122.0.2= BreathNoise
123.0.2= Seashore
124.0.2= Bird
125.0.2= Telephone 1
126.0.2= Helicopter
127.0.2= Applause
128.0.2= Gun Shot


Prøv at lave den i Notesblok og gem med filnavn.pat

Held og lykke med projektet.

Venlig hilsen
Lindbjerg


Edited by lindbjerg (12/01/12 05:09 PM)
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#180987 - 12/02/12 08:46 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: lindbjerg]
Topsy Offline
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Registered: 11/27/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Møn
Hej Lindbjerg - tak for dit svar.

Nej Alesis S4 lydmodulet er ikke GM kompertibelt, det
er vist nok derfor jeg må lave en patch som er i overens-
stemmelse med S4rens instr. organisering.

Har fundet ud af S4 bruger Bank Select Command (controller 0)
og det er jo det samme som Roland, så jeg vil prøve at sætte
det op som du har skitseret.

Tak.

Venlig hilsen

Topsy

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#180988 - 12/12/12 03:00 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
Topsy Offline
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Registered: 11/27/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Møn
Hej igen igen Lindbjerg.

Nu har jeg smidt S4 patchen ind i mappen.

Når jeg vælger higher bank fra biab er den
greyed out hvorimod SC88 er anvendelig.

Så åbner jeg sæføli begge i TextEdit og der
kan jeg ikke se jeg har gjort noget forkert.

Kan du?

Vh

Torben, Møn

PS: Hvordan vedlægger jeg screenshots ?

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#180989 - 12/17/12 03:19 PM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
lindbjerg Offline
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Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 909
Loc: Danmark
Uuups
Jeg har simpelt hen ikke set, der er kommet en ny post. Jeg undskylder ydmygst og vil svare hurtigst muligt.
Vh
Lindbjerg
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#180990 - 12/18/12 11:40 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: lindbjerg]
lindbjerg Offline
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Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 909
Loc: Danmark
Her er svaret på hvordan man indsætter billeder:

For at tilføje et billede til din meddelelse eller signatur, skal du have et billede klar på en web server. Det kan f.eks. være et billede fra din personlige hjemmeside. For at anbringe et billede i en meddelelse, brug følgende Markup Tag:

[image]http://www.url_to_image.com/image_name.gif[/image]

Hvis du f.eks. har et billede som hedder cateye.gif og det findes på din hjemmeside på http://www.mywebsite.com/pics, skal du bruge følgende billed markup:

[image]http://www.mywebsite.com/pics/cateye.gif[/image]

Du kan gøre det samme med din signatur. Klik på muligheden, som findes på alle sider. Klik herefter på "Personlig information, email, password...". Se efter signaturboksen og tast den ønskede information, inklusiv billeder/markup, som ovenfor nævnt.

Bemærk: For at forumet skal fungere hurtigt for alle, anbefales det at billedstørrelsen ikke overstiger 35k.

Man kan altså ikke bare indsætte billeder, men det kan lade sig gøre.
Venlig hilsen
Lindbjerg
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#180991 - 12/18/12 11:52 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
lindbjerg Offline
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Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 909
Loc: Danmark
Her er en mere omfattende instruktion, som jeg har hentet på support siderne. Det er på engelsk, men det er formodentlig ikke et problem:

You can manually create a patch map by using a simple word processor, such as TextEdit. We will use the Roland SC8820 as our synthesizer example.

If you want to add comments to the PAT file you must insert a semi-colon. Here is an example:

; This is how you would add comments to a pat file.
; You can add as many comments into the file as you wish
; as long as you insert a semi-colon. It is a good idea to
; include some basic documentation - information about what
; synthesizer(s) the patch map can be used with, and what
; banks of sounds it allows you to access.

One thing you will need to know is which controller your synth or module uses to send bank changes. This information can usually be found in your synth documentation. As a general rule:

Roland uses controller 0 (MSB)
Yamaha uses controller 32 (LSB)
Korg will often use both or a combination
You enter patches into your patch map using the following format:

<patch/program change>.<bank0/controller#0/MSB>.<bank32/Controller#32/LSB>=PatchName

Your first bank should consist of 128 patches. In most cases this is the GM bank which is Bank 0. You do not need a header for Bank 0 like you would with the other banks, and you only need the patch number. For other banks, you need to insert a header, such as "[Bank 1]". Below is a sample patch map. Note that in this example, Bank 0 only has 7 patches. Normally there would be 128.

--------------------

; This is a sample patch map for the Roland SC8820
; The SC8820 Uses Controller 0, which is also known as MSB

1=Piano 1
2=Piano 2
3=Piano 3
4=Honky-tonk
5=E.Piano 1
6=E.Piano 2
7=Harpsichord

[Bank 1]
1.1=Upright Piano
2.1=Pop Piano
3.1=EG+Rhodes 1
6.1=E.Piano 3
7.1=Harpsichord2
8.1=Clav. 2
9.1=Pop Celesta

[Bank 2]
1.2=Mild Piano
2.2=Rock Piano
3.2=EG+Rhodes 2
7.2=Harpsichord 3
8.2=Atk. Clav.1
16.2=Santur 3
17.2=Ful Organ 1

--------------------

As an example, let's look at Bank 1. The first instrument is Patch number 1, Bank (MSB) 1, and the instrument name is Upright Piano.

Some synths or modules use controller 32, which is also known as LSB. It follows the same principle as above. Below is a sample patch map.

--------------------

; This is an example of controller 32, as well a synth that uses
; both controller 0 and 32.
; In this case, you do not need to enter a bank header like the Controller 0 patch maps

1=Piano 1
2=Piano 2
3=Piano 3
4=Honky-tonk
5=E.Piano 1
6=E.Piano 2
7=Harpsichord
1.0.1=Upright Piano
2.0.1=Pop Piano
3.0.1=EG+Rhodes 1
6.2.1=E.Piano 3
7.2.12=Harpsichord2
8.2.12=Clav. 2
9.2.12=Pop Celesta

--------------------

Again the first number represents the Patch number. The second number represents the controller 0 bank number, and the third number is the controller 32 bank number.

1.0.1=Upright Piano
Patch number 1, controller 0 bank 0, controller 32 bank 1.

6.2.1=E.Piano 3
Patch number 6, controller 0 bank 2, controller 32 bank 1.

9.2.12=Pop Celesta
Patch number 9, controller 0 bank 2, controller 32 bank 12.

Once you have finished creating your file, give it a name such as "MyPat.pat". "MyPat" can be any name you choose. Put your patch (*.Pat) file that you created into your Band-in-a-Box Folder (usually C:\bb), and you are finished. If you create a patch map that is not available for download on our website, and you would like to share it with other Band-in-a-Box users, please email the file as an attachment to support@pgmusic.com.
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#180992 - 12/20/12 11:39 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: lindbjerg]
Topsy Offline
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Registered: 11/27/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Møn
Hej Lindbjerg.

De er godt nok noet a en omvej for at sende et billed - tak for kaffe
hvorfor i alverden kan PG ikke gøre som alle andre ?

Og max 35 K - come on !

Jeg har tidligt læst alt det du sender til mig.

Du svarer ikke på billederne. Hvorfor er
den ene aktiv og min S4 patch passiv selvom de
står skreven ens ?

h

Torben
Møn

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#180993 - 12/20/12 11:40 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
Topsy Offline
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Registered: 11/27/12
Posts: 6
Loc: Møn
Og hvorfor i alverden står der fortsæt og ikke send ?

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#180994 - 12/22/12 07:01 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: Topsy]
lindbjerg Offline
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Loc: Danmark
Den engelske tekst var "proseed"
Lindbjerg
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#180995 - 12/22/12 07:18 AM [Dansk Band-in-a-Box bruger forum] Re: Alesis S4 patch til BIAB [Re: lindbjerg]
lindbjerg Offline
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Posts: 909
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Jeg har søgt efter en patch på nettet, men har ikke fundet nogen. Jeg ved heller ikke, om det er formålstjenligt at bruge en 'iikke' GM' hardware synth. Jeg har skrottet både min Alesis Q6 og min Roland Sound CanvasM -GS 64, da lydene fra gode softsynths og samlere er meget bedre. Men der kan selvfølgelig være lyde, som du ikke kan undvære. Jeg har aldrig selv prøvet at lave en .pat fil og kan ikke komme med flere gode råd. Måske er der andre her på forummet, som kan hjælpe? Ellers, - prøv at kontakte PgMusics support. De kan med sikkerhed besvare dine spørgsmål.
Glædelig jul
Lindbjerg
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