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You're right about the midi ports Paul.
I tried to save the song I referenced above, then opened another song without any ReDirect in it. Then went back to the referenced song and opened it. None of the redirect parts (piano and trumpet from the ReDirect) AND none of the VSTi assignments were making a sound.
When I hit the "SYNTH" VSTi button in BIAB all of the assignments for the ReDirector, as well as the VSTi's, are all there but there is no sound on those tracks. If I click on each one, momentarily change it to another port and then go back to the original port; all is well and they all sound as they did originally.
Was not expecting this as I pretty much have my system hardwired in that I never make any changes to USB's, cables, audio or midi interfaces or synth setups.
Do you think that this is the problem you mentioned with port volitility or do I have some other issue going on?
I think I know what might be causing this. You can't set the number of ports until the VSTi has loaded but unfortunately by that time it has trued to set the port(s). So the port number can be higher than the apparent number of ports. I think I have a workaround for this. I set the max number of ports to ten during creation of the VSTi then set to max ports later. That way it should work. hopefully.
Anyway, download this version and give it a try. If it works I'll update the zip file.
MidiRedirect.dll
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OK, sounds good Paul. Give me a few hours on the new .dll as I want to play with the original a bit here this morning to see if I can duplicate the issues I was having last night. Actually, just need a few more cups of 'joe so I can think through this and not mess it up!!
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Very cool initiative pwarren
I appreciate your efforts.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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OK, Paul here is what I'm finding out:
1. Using the original .dll and trying to duplicate the situation from last night:
a. I can still run multiple instances of the ReDirect and send data out to multiple different hardware synths as well as using internal VSTi's. In this case, I am using the Roland TTS-1 selected from the "Default Synth/Plugins" pulldown and in the Midi/Audio driver setup window, I have the "Use VST/DXi Synth" checked as well as having the "Route Midi Thru to Midi Driver" checked. With the ReDirect, I am sending the piano track to the Yamaha Motif Rack XS and sending the Bass track to the Roland Fantom XR. No problems with this setup...all play and sound normal.
b. Whether I save as "Save As" or "Save +", when I reopen the song all of the ReDirects produce no sound. To get sound, all I have to do is to open the "VSTi/Synth" button, go to the track that has the ReDirect and double click on the ports associated with each redirect. Note that I have to open the ReDirect ports to click on the port, I cannot click on the port that is showing in the window "Select a Midi Port"...I have to actually open the window and reselct the same port that the window shows.
2. Using the new .dll referenced in your Friday Feb 1st posting above:
a. Wow...you did it Paul! The new .dll is able to save the midi ports whether I use "Save As" or "Save +". If I go to a completely different song, play it or regenerate it, and then go back to the song with the multiple hardsyhths and VSTi; the midi ports are correctly called up and dead on...sound perfect!
Great job Paul...don't know how you do it but you've got it....redirects to multiple hardware synths, multiple VSTi's...all at the same time....and saves it all...it's a winner!
Many, many thanks for all of your hard work and efforts.
I sure hope Dr Gannon and crew are following this post!
Jeff
Last edited by MountainSide; 02/02/13 10:41 AM.
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2. Using the new .dll referenced in your Friday Feb 1st posting above:
a. Wow...you did it Paul! The new .dll is able to save the midi ports whether I use "Save As" or "Save +". If I go to a completely different song, play it or regenerate it, and then go back to the song with the multiple hardsyhths and VSTi; the midi ports are correctly called up and dead on...sound perfect!
Great job Paul...don't know how you do it but you've got it....redirects to multiple hardware synths, multiple VSTi's...all at the same time....and saves it all...it's a winner!
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Well that's great news Jeff. I'll have to package the dll ASAP. Monday most likely. Meanwhile anyone that wants can download the upakaged dll from the link above. Anyway, thanks for your help testing it.
Paul
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Just to inform you all, the wiki is updated to version 1.01 which should have all the fixes. Just be sure to check the zip file is VSTiToMidi v101.zip and that the included text file has the appropriate Last Modified statement. My ISPs server caches files and sometimes it's possible to get an old version, although it's unlikely in this case.
Paul
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Hi there Mac sent me your way. wanting to send a midi signal from biab to a pc light controller. Looks like this might work. I'm trying this on my old pc first with vista I beleive is 32 bit. this one is still running biab 2012 which if I understand right will stillo work not 2013 ver. Will this midi track still be heard if I export out of biab? I was thinking of using the bass track. also could I run say the strings track also to another lighting channel for some really cool efect?
thanks for your time
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