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#342996 - 04/02/16 12:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
This is a Wishlist for Product Improvements, not a lucky-dip wishing well.
Well, you could've fooled me! smirk
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#345167 - 04/15/16 03:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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I wish Peter said 'Thanks' or 'Good Idea' or at least something to this one....
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#345847 - 04/18/16 09:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 from me Trev
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#346005 - 04/19/16 06:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Mike. R.]
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Thanks Mike

Yours, and others ongoing support for this fundamentally very reasonable request is appreciated <hint> wink
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#349623 - 05/13/16 08:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 Count me in!
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#349645 - 05/13/16 10:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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BIG +1 !!!!

This seems like such an obvious and relatively easy one to tackle!

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#349653 - 05/13/16 11:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Sure, I'll +1 this again.

I like the suggestions by VideoTrack for the additions to the Count-in dialog. And I agree, I don't want to make it so complicated that this becomes hard for PG Music to implement. Having said that, I think it needs to offer something like these checkbox options:

__ Count-in will be played
__ Specify numbers of measures for count-in (pulldown)
__ First bar has emphasis on every second beat only (multiple bars only)
__ Count-in uses beat pattern in this number of measures (pulldown)
__ Play count-in when spacebar pressed in measure one

Something along these lines, not that I've provided a complete list. Note: the forum software doesn't seem to allow me to indent. The second checkbox would be indented and grayed out if the first is unchecked etc.
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#349919 - 05/15/16 06:19 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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))))) BIG +1 !!!! This seems like such an obvious and relatively easy one to tackle!

Yes, I thought it would be relatively straightforward, but apparently it must have them stumped.

Sigh. Well, we can only wish.

I've been a musician for a very, very long time, but I still can't get used to hearing a 4 beat count-in for a song that starts as a Jazz Waltz. Seems odd to still be doing this in 2016, doesn't it?



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#349939 - 05/15/16 10:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1, of course

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#351440 - 05/26/16 03:44 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: Cerio]
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EDIT >> Please disregard this post. I tested the wrong thing.
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I just tested this with 2 different Waltzes in BIAB 2016 (build 127) and it appears to be fixed. Proper 3/4 count-in.

Trevor, can you confirm that this is still broken in the Windows version, or has it been fixed?


Edited by zedd (05/27/16 05:12 AM)
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#351514 - 05/27/16 02:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: zedd]
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Originally Posted By: zedd
I just tested this with 2 different Waltzes in BIAB 2016 (build 127) and it appears to be fixed. Proper 3/4 count-in.

Trevor, can you confirm that this is still broken in the Windows version, or has it been fixed?

Hi Zedd
Thanks for the request
The problem is that if a song has a mixture of 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and starts in 3/4, a style with a 4/4 time signature must be chosen.

The first bar is set to play 3 beats. But the count in is in 4/4.

You can download this sample SGU I just created that demonstrates the problem.

The Count-in that is set from Preferences is Global, not local to a song.

Try this on your system. Download the song and play it. It starts with the first 4 bars as a 3/4 and on the second 4 bars it changes to 4/4. Listen to the count-in, then start playing. Whoa!

BiaB checks the style to determine the count-in to use. All BiaB has to do is check how many beats are in the first bar, and use that as the count-in. Easy? Well, that's what I thought. Apparently this must be quite difficult. 3+ years, stacks of support, not one disapproval, and we're still waiting...

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#351531 - 05/27/16 05:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
The problem is that if a song has a mixture of 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and starts in 3/4, a style with a 4/4 time signature must be chosen.

The first bar is set to play 3 beats. But the count in is in 4/4.

I'm so sorry to have troubled you with this. I wanted to +1 this thread, but thought I ought to try it out first to hear what's going on... but I forgot about testing something that had both 3/4 and 4/4 (which was the whole point).

Indeed it's not working, and could easily throw you off if recording or playing along. I wonder why this hasn't been addressed after all this time? It seems as though it should be such a simple thing to remedy.

+1 for fixing this.

Apologies again for my oversight. I read all the posts in this thread, and then proceeded to test the wrong thing like a nitwit.
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#351539 - 05/27/16 07:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: zedd]
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Originally Posted By: zedd

I'm so sorry to have troubled you with this. I wanted to +1 this thread, but thought I ought to try it out first to hear what's going on... but I forgot about testing something that had both 3/4 and 4/4 (which was the whole point).

Indeed it's not working, and could easily throw you off if recording or playing along. I wonder why this hasn't been addressed after all this time? It seems as though it should be such a simple thing to remedy.

Hey Zedd, no need to apologize at all.

Your post gave me a chance to create a sample of the issue that PG Music staff can now listen to and hear for themselves how problematic it is <hint>.
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#351609 - 05/27/16 04:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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I'm still leaning to the idea also of making the count-in selectable on a song by song basis, rather than global (it's currently either Off always or On always). Some songs don't need a count-in.
Something like this would resolve:


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#353032 - 06/07/16 12:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Something like this would resolve:

That is a very sensible solution Trevor. That ought to be fairly easy to implement, and seems like an essential addition.
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