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Dr. Gannon,
Another milestone in a great company. The joy, time and
acceptable results have allowed me to work way beyond my
playing abilities.
Am still downloading with HD on it way, but grateful
for all of the work that you, your staff and the rest of
the employees have done on this new music system.
Thank you and your staff again!
Frank J Blecha
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... and an equally heartfelt Thank You to all be Beta Testers. We'll never know how much time and effort they put in on our behalf, and oft times I'm sure, sacrificing time with their families.
THANKS FOLKS!
LLOYD S
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Hello
I am very exiting to ear the new BIAB 2014 and I am ready to order it but I just want to say something about the way PG Music is charging Customer for the new release.
I have the BIAB 2013 Everything and I was ready to upgrade to BIAB 2014 Everything it looks like I have 2 options
1 - BIAB 2014 Everything pre installed on a USB2 HD (159$)
2 - BIAB 2014 Everything Direct download (159 $)
I found strange to have these 2 version at the same price as they don't really cost the same for PG Music (no USB HD provided, time taken to install (duplicate) the content on the HD so why the Downlowding version is not cheaper thant the HD one ?
I also want to make the potential customer (specially thoses ordering from Europe) that it is not really the same amount if you order BIAB 2014 pre installed on a USB 2 Drive
a - They have to pay for the UPS shipment
b - They will be Tax changed at delivery in some country which could increase the price significantly (around 60 euros 80 USB in total.
I think it would be fair to have this information clearly indicated when ordering to avoid surprises and frustrations.
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Fred
Dedicated DAW - i9 9880H - 32Go Ram - BIAB 2023 UltraPak
Mac Mini M2 Pro 32 Go RAM & Mac Mini M2 Pro - Cubase Pro 12 - Dorico 5 - Camelot Pro 2 - RME Fireface UFX - NuRAD (Berglund Instruments)
@+ SaxFred
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Saxfred: I am under the (unconfirmed) impression that the 2014 PlusPAK download for $99 is the way to go for most users that have the 2013 UltraPlusPak or the 2013 EverythingPak. I guess you would need to know if there is anything "extra" in the 2014 EverythingPak that is not in the 2013 version.
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Peter
Salivating at the prospect of this making it over to Mac in the near future!
Paul
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Saxfred: I am under the (unconfirmed) impression that the 2014 PlusPAK download for $99 is the way to go for most users that have the 2013 UltraPlusPak or the 2013 EverythingPak. I guess you would need to know if there is anything "extra" in the 2014 EverythingPak that is not in the 2013 version. I had this very same question and spoke with PG support before I upgraded. They told me all I needed was the $99 upgrade. Below is our conversation, Kallum: Welcome to PG Music's Live Help. How may we assist you today?
John: Hi! I currently own Band in a Box 2013 UltraPlusPAK. I want to upgrade to 2014. Should I purchase the 2014 PlusPAK for $99 or the Upgrade from 2013 for $139? I am not clear on what the difference is in these two packages.
Kallum: The PlusPAK contains the new RealTracks, RealDrums, MIDI SuperTracks and the 2014 updates to the program. The $139 upgrade refers to the UltraPlusPAK. If you already have an UltraPlusPAK or higher, the only difference will be the PlusPAK comes as DVDs or a download, whereas the UltraPlusPAK comes on a hard drive or as a download.
John: so, just to be sure I understand...if I buy the 2014 PlusPAK for $99 or the Upgrade from 2013 for $139 once I finish the upgrade I will have the same identical version and RealTracks and everything else?
Kallum: That's correct.
John: I am curious...why would anyone who already has 2013 UltraPlusPak buy the $139 upgrade? is it sinmply to get everything on a single drive?
Kallum: That pricing is for people who don't already have an UltraPlusPAK.
John: Oh, OK! Thanks very much for your help!
Kallum: You're very welcome, have a great day.
Last edited by JohnJohnJohn; 12/02/13 09:49 AM.
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Thanks for that confirmation, John -- quite helpful!
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When I talked to the sales staff the other day if you buy the everything pack, you can download immediately but they also send you the USB drive. A convienent backup. That's why they are the same price....
Biab 2019 ultra pack
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Thanks Kevin and John... like Fred, I also have the 2013 EverythingPAK. So it's good to know we'll still have 'everything' by upgrading to the $99 2014 PlusPAK!
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Something don't sound right here? Always seemed there was a valid reason I had to pay the extra in the past to maintain my everything pak. However, now that the licensing limits the abilty to move a HD from machine to machine, perhaps this is the way to go.
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Jazzmandan, I don't think we know that, do we? The activation will factor in if you install to multiple machines, but what if you just travel with the supplied hard drive from machine to machine? There's another recent thread on this, too, called Three Times.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Yes, I am watching all the treads on this topic. I think the answer is beginning to come into focus - something like this: only 3 machines, but you can remove and restore. And there is a 30 grace period for activation on any one machine. So it does sound like it may be pretty flexible. Just something new to deal with. Does look like you need internet to do the switching. Otherwise, No problem here.
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I think you are correct, Dan. I'm sure the full details will emerge shortly. The great news is, if you need to do something that hasn't been anticipated, just give PG Music Support a call and they should be able to figure out a solution.
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The 2014 BIAB features overview video stutters throughout.
At least it does on my system.
The strange thing is that ALL of the other features overview videos for previous BIAB versions etc. work beautifully without stuttering.
TIA
BIABguy
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There is a possibility that the file is fragmented.
Fragmentation after install of a lot of large files, such as when installing a proggie like band in a box, can happen.
Of course, if you are speaking of the online webstreaming video, that would not be the case. Could be congested servers at the release, try agaio later, try a reboot of the puter and try again also.
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Of course, if you are speaking of the online webstreaming video, that would not be the case. Could be congested servers at the release, try agaio later, try a reboot of the puter and try again also.
--Mac
Yes I'm talking about the online video. Let's try an experiment. Can you play it without stuttering?
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The 2014 video is a HD video, and previous ones weren't. So this one likely requires more bandwidth. On my tests, it plays fine, including on PC's and iphones. The one on the main page is flash (if you have it), or mp4 (if you don't have flash, such as using an iphone). The video is also linked from this page... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.demos.htmOn that page, there is an option to download the mp4, where you could then play it stutter-free. http://demos.pgmusic.com/video/bbw/BB2014_NewFeaturesRT.mp4Note that this download is 90MB for a 12 minute video, which means that the bandwidth is about 130KB/second. So a slowish broadband connection might stutter on that.
Last edited by PeterGannon; 12/02/13 10:48 PM.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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Yes I'm talking about the online video.
Let's try an experiment.
Can you play it without stuttering?
Yes, it played just fine here, the other day, I watched it within minutes of its appearance. This kind of issue can be different for everybody, though, since it is an HD High Definition resolution video, each ISP situation can be a lot different from user to user. PGMusic should consider publishing another of the same done in lower resolution for folks to be able to make a choice. 360p --Mac
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BTW, the solution for playing the video at lower bitrates, is to play the youtube version.... Band-in-a-Box 2014 for Windows new features https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Y6vfjDIn8Note that, as with other youtube videos, you can select a resolution, from 240p (loRes) to 720p (High Def)
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
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For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
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Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
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If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
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The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
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We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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