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#233315 - 01/06/14 03:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files
Tom Leparskas Offline
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I have 2014 BIAB installed plus sampletank 2.5.
Sampletank is authorized and I can hear sounds from it when running in stand alone mode.
All the audio files are in the C:\programfiles(x86)\IKmultimedia\Sampletank 2.5\Band In a Box sub-directory where they are supposed to be.

In BIAB selecting Hi-Q menu choice from mixer pop-up- BIAB will report files as missing:

for example a drum part:

Hi-Q 001 01 Drums, Acoustic, Rock Kit SampleTank.tgs ** not found in C:\Program Files (x86)\IK Multimedia\SampleTank 2.5\Instruments\Band-in-a-Box\

or strings:

Hi-Q 050 01 Strings, Ensemble, Movie SampleTank.tgs ** not found in C:\Program Files (x86)\IK Multimedia\SampleTank 2.5\Instruments\Band-in-a-Box\

Thanks,
Tom

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#233319 - 01/06/14 03:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Hi Tom,

Navigate to the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\IK Multimedia\SampleTank 2.5\ and see if you can find a subfolder called Band-In-A-Box in any of the folders in the SampleTank2.5 directory. If so, please let me know it's path.

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#233320 - 01/06/14 03:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Noel:

I just found a previous forum thread after I posted - sorry to duplicate.

The path is c:\Program Files(x86)\IK Multimedia\sampletank 2.5\Instruments\Band In A Box.

Sampletank work as a standalone.

Tom

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#233322 - 01/06/14 03:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Noel:

I started BIAB as administrator.

When accessing ST I got a yellow pop up menu suggesting I move the band in a box folder up one level and put it under "sampletank 2.5"

Does that sound right? I didn't get the pop up starting BIAB in normal mode.

I will try it.

Tom

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#233334 - 01/06/14 04:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Hi Tom,

I wouldn't put the BIAB files up a level. Sampletank needs to have the files it seeks all off the same level/directory. That's usually the default ...\Instruments directory.

Have you tried going to BBW.EXE in the \bb directory and setting its permissions to "Administrator"? This is done by right clicking on the file and opening the "Properties" option. If I recall correctly from an earlier post, setting permissions is worth trying.

Regards,
Noel
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#233384 - 01/06/14 08:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Noel:

OK, I've heeded your advice.

I set all permissions to 'allow' - - but when I try to adjust sST in DXI window it states I am not running ST in Admin Mode - restart in admin mode. It has full permissions.

However the issue of the 'lost' tgs files etc is not solved. BIAB still cannot find the sounds though they are in what seems to be the correct path.
Tom

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#233387 - 01/06/14 08:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Tom,

My files are in a sub-folder called Band-in-a-box. If your sub-folder does not have the above exact name with hyphens, try renaming it.

Also, at some point in time it might pay to shut down and reboot your computer (not simply start it up from hibernate/sleep).

Regards,
Noel
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#233456 - 01/07/14 07:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Noel96]
Tom Leparskas Offline
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Noel:

I'll check the path name, but wasn't it created by the installer?

I've given bbw full permissions, as well as all the files in the sampletank folder.

Have done a full re-boot and actually re-installed Hi-Q files. That didn't do it.

I'm at work, so will check actual path name when I get home.

Thanks,

Tom

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#233462 - 01/07/14 07:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Tom,

See how you go. If the problem persists, it probably means that you'll need to (re)set Sampletank's default path. I'll explain how to do that if you don't get any joy.

Out of curiosity ...

1. Are you using the free Sampletank that came with BIAB?

2. Have you authorized ST through IK Multimedia?

3. Have you used ST on earlier versions of BIAB?

Regards,
Noel
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#233468 - 01/07/14 07:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Tom,

I'm replying to your recent comments in the other thread. I've noticed from other posts over recent months that logging into your computer as administator is not enough. People have reported that it's actually necessary to go to the file bbw.exe and give it administration priviges by right-clicking on it and opening the files "Properties". Is that how you set BBW.EXE? If not, it's definitely worth trying.

Regards,
Noel
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#233469 - 01/07/14 07:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Noel96]
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Noel:
exactly as you say - I did it in properties : Allow read/write in all checkboxes. (for SYSTEM / ADMIN / and USER)

Tom


Edited by Tom Leparskas (01/07/14 07:53 AM)

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#233470 - 01/07/14 07:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Tom,

(I'm not sure if you saw this post above so I'm just putting it below in case it slipped past.)

Out of curiosity ...

1. Are you using the free Sampletank that came with BIAB?

2. Have you authorized ST through IK Multimedia?

3. Have you used ST on earlier versions of BIAB?

Also ...

4. How are you running BIAB (from your computer's hard drive or the USB drive?

5. What directory / folder do you have BIAB installed to?

Sorry for the questions but it's important for me to appreciate your set-up.

Kind regards,
Noel
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#233473 - 01/07/14 08:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Leparskas
Noel:
exactly as you say - I did it in properties : Allow read/write in all checkboxes. (for SYSTEM / ADMIN / and USER)

Tom

I think Noel means like this:


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#233474 - 01/07/14 08:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Noel96]
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Noel:

THIS may answer it - and I never thought of it.

Checking IK's FAQ's it turns out ST 2.5 is NOT a 64 bit plug-in.

I run Windows 7 64 bit.

It's not going to work no matter what..
IK has posted Sampltank 3.0 will be the 64 bit compatible plugin.

Amplitude 3 DOES run in 64 - so I've never had an issue with it.

OY!!

I wish PG Music had that info posted somewhere to save all these headaches. I'll just skip HI-Q for now.

Tom

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#233478 - 01/07/14 08:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: VideoTrack]
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Trevor:
I've discovered that ST 2.5 is not a 64 bit plug-in. It's in the IK Multimedia FAQ's.

I'm running Windows 7 64 bit Professional.

Dang - lot of trouble for nothing -skipping HI-Q for now.

Thanks,

Tom

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#233484 - 01/07/14 08:33 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Doesn't sound entirely right.

Lots of users running 64 bit OS's and the Sampletank included with BB, no?


Some few have reported troubles getting it going, though.

A Forum Search here should show both.



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#233492 - 01/07/14 08:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Mac, worth finding out.

I'm going by what I saw on IK Multimedia.

This question was for Logic Pro in 64 bit but the answer seems to include all 64 bit OS.

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Please note that Logic Pro X is a 64 bit only application. This means that there are some IK plugins which are not compatible at this time.

Currently, the following plugins are compatible with 64 bit hosts such as Logic Pro X:
AmpliTube 3
AmpliTube Custom Shop
T-Racks 3
T-Racks Custom Shop
Classik Studio Reverb
ARC System
ARC System 2


The following plugins are not compatible with Logic Pro X:
SampleTank 2 (L/XL/XT/Free)
SampleMoog
SampleTron
Sonik Synth 2
Miroslav Philharmonik
Miroslav Philharmonik Classik Edition
AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix
AmpliTube Fender
AmpliTube Metal
Ampeg SVX

For the individual AmpliTube versions listed above, you can host them inside of AmpliTube 3 or AmpliTube Custom Shop, which supports 64 bit. To do this, please launch AmpliTube 3/AmpliTube Custom Shop and click the 'Custom Shop' logo or launch the Custom Shop from your Programs (Windows) or Applications (Mac) folder.

This will open the Custom Shop application, login using your IK User Name/Password.

Click up top on the GEAR drop-down menu, select 'Restore My Gear'. This will load in your registered and purchased 'AmpliTube' models into AmpliTube 3/AmpliTube Custom Shop for use in Logic Pro X and other 64 bit only hosts.

If you do not have AmpliTube 3 or AmpliTube Custom Shop, you will find a free copy of AmpliTube Custom Shop available in your User Area > My Products on www.ikmultimedia.com.

For our virtual instruments such as, Miroslav Philharmonik, SampleMoog, SampleTron, SampleTank 2, and Sonik Synth 2, the move to support 64 bit will come in the form of SampleTank 3, a new version. Please stay tuned for updated release information and pricing on this upcoming version of SampleTank 3.

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Tom

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#233495 - 01/07/14 08:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Mac]
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I have been running ST2.5 on a 64 bit Win 7 Professional for a couple of years now in both Sonar and BiaB with no problems. If the forum search doesn’t help you may need to wrap ST2,5 with a program like J-bridge: http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

I use J-bridge on 32 bit VST and VSTis when Sonar’s automatic bit-bridge doesn’t. Sonar may have automatically wrapped ST2.5 on my system, don’t know. All I do know is that ST2.5, which I have had for quite a while now, worked from the git-go in BiaB.
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#233496 - 01/07/14 08:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Mac]
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I'm running Windows 7 / 64 with the SampleTank included with BB. I haven't had any issues, (well, not once I got through IK Multimedia's registration process).

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#233497 - 01/07/14 08:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB2014 doesn't see Sampletank files [Re: Tom Leparskas]
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Mario:

so it's a workaround?

Tom

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