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#233974 - 01/09/14 04:39 PM [User Showcase] Jesus On The Mainline (floyd jane collab)
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Jesus On The Mainline

About a week ago I mentioned to floyd jane a public domain gospel song that Janice and I have wanted to work up for a long time. While the origins are not known it's roots thought by some to be with a 1920’s African-American blues and/or spiritual song. Many gospel, rock, Americana, blues and country versions have been done over the years.  Hey, believe it or not, Aerosmith did a version.

The reason for my mentioning it was the group of backup singers, "The Fabulous BIABettes," that floyd always has on 24 hour call...so I wondering if he (amongst floyd/Janice vocals and the BIABettes) could create a gospel choir.

He thought it was worth pursuing so I proceeded with several things in mind - in addition to the choir I wanted to use a slide guitar (lap steel), a piano and an a cappella verse.  I thought the slide would be incongruous with the choir in a positive way.  OK, I stole the idea from Ry Cooder who stole it from AA churches.   I loved David Lindley’s lap steel with Jackson Browne. Oh, and Janice and I tweaked the lyric and wrote one new verse.

At the time I originally wrote this I was not familiar with the "Sacred Steel" tradition in Florida African-American Pentecostal churches. During the 30's some AA churches replaced the organ with the steel guitar and that's where this tradition started. Wiki has some great history on the Sacred Steel. Some of you may be familiar, as I was, with the Robert Randolph Family Band that uses the steel. While they play secular music they clearly came from this tradition. Thanks to Tommyad for cluing me in on this info in his response to this post.

Fast forward --- I put the RTs together with floyd's great choir (created from floyd and Janice vocals with a few of the BIABettes), Janice’s lead/counter vocals and.......I couldn't get it to work and the harder and longer I tried the more disjointed it seemed to sound.  Everything I did seem to step on the choir. Floyd listened and offered to bail me out by remixing the entire project and swapping out several of the Realtracks.  And are we ever glad he did!!!  BTW, he very generously suggested I be considered a co-producer smile   So here ya go.  

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#233981 - 01/09/14 04:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi, Janice, Bud & Floyd !


I enjoyed this spiritual very much
and most of all the a cappella part
towards the end of the song ! As
the barbershopper I am I dig all
kinds of a cappella singing spirituals
included !:))

Cheers
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#233987 - 01/09/14 05:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi Janice, Bud and floyd.

How amazing is this song to listen to!!!!! Wow.

What you've put together is incredibly inventive and it's one of the most polished uses of the BIABettes I've ever heard. To be able to create an a capella section with them is testimony to your collective remarkable talents.

I love Gospel music and this has all the elements that make Gospel such a great style. The memorable repetition, the tug-of-war between keeping time and ad lib'ing and, most importantly, the sincerity of performance.

Just brilliant!!!!

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#233993 - 01/09/14 05:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice, Bud, and floyd, Great job by all three of you, though it sounds like many more. That must have been a mixing challenge. It sure was worth it. This style is found in the black churches in north central Florida. They call it sacred steel. This is where Robert Randolph came from. A few years back I had a gig in Key West and right behind the place was the Green Parrot saloon where the Lee Boys were playing. I went there every night on our breaks and watched them tear the roof off that place. This type of music definitely moves people as your rendition of this spiritual does. Congratulations on another job well done. Tom

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#234012 - 01/09/14 07:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: tommyad]
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Originally Posted By: tommyad
Janice, Bud, and floyd, Great job by all three of you, though it sounds like many more. That must have been a mixing challenge. It sure was worth it. This style is found in the black churches in north central Florida. They call it sacred steel. This is where Robert Randolph came from. A few years back I had a gig in Key West and right behind the place was the Green Parrot saloon where the Lee Boys were playing. I went there every night on our breaks and watched them tear the roof off that place. This type of music definitely moves people as your rendition of this spiritual does. Congratulations on another job well done. Tom


Tom, that is great info. I'm from south GA and remember as a kid African-American churches where the gospel choir was accompanied by an electric guitar but never heard the lap steel. I'd walk across a field and listen to the music behind the church. The Robert Randolph Family Band played in our home town a couple of years ago. I wish I'd known of that connection since I heard Ry Cooder's version with AA backup singers back in the 70's and thought he'd put that combo together. Thanks for the info and kind remarks regarding the production.


Edited by Janice & Bud (01/09/14 07:42 PM)
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#234073 - 01/10/14 02:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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What is there to say besides...."WOW!

Everything about this is betond great! Sounds like the entire church choir was there and in top form. It's a masterpiece of talent and technical ability. All three of you...take a bow!

SUPER WOW!!!!

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#234086 - 01/10/14 05:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Another great one from the Jane/Merritt studios. Enjoyed it thoroughly.


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#234098 - 01/10/14 08:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Really nice work.

Loved the slide/lap steel track. Tasty stuff.

I recall listening to Jackson Brown and falling in love with Lindley's playing.....another great steel player was Sneaky Pete.... amazing players who influenced my early years and stated to move me from heavy rock (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath... et al) towards the country rock movement of Poco, Emmy Lou and so many other great bands and singers....

This is excellent.... the choir was well done.... it didn't sound like it was a contrived studio creation of only a few singers multi-tracked and cloned.....well done.
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#234121 - 01/10/14 10:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: dani48
Hi, Janice, Bud & Floyd !
I enjoyed this spiritual very much
and most of all the a cappella part
towards the end of the song ! As
the barbershopper I am I dig all
kinds of a cappella singing spirituals
included !:))
Cheers
Dani


Hey Dani, as you're a barbershopper I'm REALLY glad you liked the harmony. Floyd did a great job with just his and Janice's vocal.

Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi Janice, Bud and floyd.
How amazing is this song to listen to!!!!! Wow.
What you've put together is incredibly inventive and it's one of the most polished uses of the BIABettes I've ever heard. To be able to create an a capella section with them is testimony to your collective remarkable talents.
I love Gospel music and this has all the elements that make Gospel such a great style. The memorable repetition, the tug-of-war between keeping time and ad lib'ing and, most importantly, the sincerity of performance.
Just brilliant!!!!
All the best,
Noel


Thanks Noel! If you get a chance look up "sacred steel" on wiki and read about this African-American tradition. BTW, the BIABettes while present only accounted for a small part of the choir. It's mostly the "real" Janice and Floyd.
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#234133 - 01/10/14 10:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi you three,

great production.
I especially liked that a capella part.
Would have wanted more of it.
I helped myself by playing that part
several times.
Kudos to Floyd for that choir feel.

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#234201 - 01/10/14 09:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: 90 dB]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David
What is there to say besides...."WOW!
Everything about this is betond great! Sounds like the entire church choir was there and in top form. It's a masterpiece of talent and technical ability. All three of you...take a bow!
SUPER WOW!!!!
Al & Di


Thank y'all. Including the handclaps this was 30 tracks. Floyd did a great job on the mix!

Originally Posted By: 90 dB
Another great one from the Jane/Merritt studios. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
Regards,
Bob


Thanks Bob! This one was interesting for sure.
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#234303 - 01/11/14 02:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (jane collab) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Bud,

Well that was outstanding! Loved the choir & the slide guitar!

Greg

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#234348 - 01/11/14 09:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (jane collab) [Re: boehm]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Really nice work.
Loved the slide/lap steel track. Tasty stuff.
I recall listening to Jackson Brown and falling in love with Lindley's playing.....another great steel player was Sneaky Pete.... amazing players who influenced my early years and stated to move me from heavy rock (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath... et al) towards the country rock movement of Poco, Emmy Lou and so many other great bands and singers....
This is excellent.... the choir was well done.... it didn't sound like it was a contrived studio creation of only a few singers multi-tracked and cloned.....well done.


Thanks Herb, this was definitely the biggest production I've been involved in track wise. And, yeah, Sneaky Pete definitely sticks in my memory also. Great player.

Originally Posted By: boehm
Hi you three,
great production.
I especially liked that a capella part.
Would have wanted more of it.
I helped myself by playing that part
several times.
Kudos to Floyd for that choir feel.
Guenter


Thanks Guenter, I thought the a cappella worked out well. If the song had been longer I would have thrown in another a cappella verse -- should've done that.
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#234354 - 01/11/14 11:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice as always your vocal is superb, the harmonies sound great, fine work all around. Thanks for sharing!
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#234393 - 01/12/14 08:52 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Just want to let y'all know...

I created a RealDrums of the "Choir Claps" that we created for this song.

Look under the "User Tracks" forum...
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#234398 - 01/12/14 10:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Bud, Janice and Floyd
Fantastic. What can I say that hasn't already been said?

Just love the whole production, choir and a capella verse.

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#234454 - 01/12/14 07:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: PgFantastic]
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Originally Posted By: Achordocaster
Bud,
Well that was outstanding! Loved the choir & the slide guitar!
Greg


Yeah man, the choir and slide is unusual but if you get chance google "sacred steel" and read about the tradition.

Originally Posted By: PgFantastic
Janice as always your vocal is superb, the harmonies sound great, fine work all around. Thanks for sharing!


Thanks! Janice really enjoyed working with floyd on this one.
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#234525 - 01/13/14 11:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (floyd jane collab) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Here is my version of Jesus on the mainline. I really like your version. This song has been recorded by many artists. Hope you like it. I used BIAB and Realband. occ


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#234551 - 01/13/14 04:17 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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It's all been said so all I can add is this is fantastic.

This really has a live vibe to it and in fact sounds like it could have been recorded in any church.

You all should be very proud of this one.
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#234566 - 01/13/14 06:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: Jesus On The Mainline (Jane/Merritt production) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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What a HUGE choir Janice and Floyd were able to do with the Biabettes. Gonna have to enlist a male and try that myself next time.

I thought the vocals were "Heavenly" but that had to be one "hell" of a mix to work on....

Josie

PS. Thanks a lot Janice for getting that song stuck in my head now. <grin>
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