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#255781 - 07/08/14 05:12 PM Getting started
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 6
Loc: Texas
I treated myself to the band in a box everything pack,just after install last year my world demanded me and I was away from music for half a year,I finally have some time now and want to play with the program. I am usually able to figure things out (eventually) but would really appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.
My instrument is flute and at this point all I want to do is have pre made songs play that I could play along with. like I said I think its all installed and the sound works but I dont know where to begin. thanks in advance for any help.and you can count on me in the future to contribute
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#255783 - 07/08/14 06:17 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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kaylen,

Your choice was excellent for the Everything Pak.
As you know some number of videos do come with that.

In addition PG folks have put together a great library of
additional videos.

Does take some time, but well worth the effort.
Pick and choose a bit to see what direction you want to go.
http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm

Also welcome to great set of forums and helpful members.
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#255785 - 07/08/14 06:29 PM Re: Getting started [Re: seeker]
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
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Loc: Texas
thank you . I will start there, I am not in a rush ,and actually do play my flute almost every day but I am looking forward to playing with some accompaniment
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#255793 - 07/08/14 07:41 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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Welcome to the forum.

The way I started with BIAB (more than two decades ago) was to take a song I know very well and enter it into BIAB, then play around with it learning what each change does. Frank's tip about the videos is good and probably makes learning a lot easier now.

By the way, I play flute, and you are fortunate that you play a non-transposing instrument. BIAB handles instruments in other keys very well, but it does add another step to learn that you don't need.

Have fun!
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#255794 - 07/08/14 07:42 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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Hi Kaylen,

I remember when I first started with BIAB (version 2006). From that experience, I can say that there is definitely a learning curve associated with the program but it is well worth persevering. It's a great program. I couldn't be without the program these days.

All the best,
Noel
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#255803 - 07/08/14 09:36 PM Re: Getting started [Re: Noel96]
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 6
Loc: Texas
thanks all, I got it going, played along with a few.thats all I wanted to do for now ,,I plan to explore and try to figure out as much as I can, I feel very lucky that there are people willing to help, I will not abuse that and try my best to figure things out before asking of your time,,,
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#255821 - 07/08/14 11:21 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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kaylen,

We neglected to give you this.
It allows a person to zero in on specific subjects nicely.
http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq.htm
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#255844 - 07/09/14 09:09 AM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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And..... you an always come to this forum to ask specific questions.
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#255871 - 07/09/14 04:11 PM Re: Getting started [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Perhaps, to get started, you may just want to have lots of songs to play along with. They are easy to get.

A number of users have built websites with lots of songs ready to go. One of them is posted below. Just found it myself a few days ago when I was looking for a particular song for a gig.

Should keep you busy for a while...

http://www.igidigi.nl/biab/index.html
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#255874 - 07/09/14 06:11 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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Registered: 07/15/07
Posts: 1626
Loc: Bynar
The Beauty about Band in A Box (BIAB) is that you don't need to know the program in any depth. I use it every day for years and I simply either 1] select a song using the song select button, or, 2] enter a few chords into a blank screen, define tempo, key, number of bars and choruses (all done just above the chord sheet; choose a style, and off I go. its great for scale practice too, turn solo the drums and you have a great metronome.

If your unsure about the difference between Audio and MIDI, learn this first, before you go deeper.

Welcome smile


Edited by ZeroZero (07/09/14 06:17 PM)
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#256025 - 07/11/14 07:20 AM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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Registered: 11/24/11
Posts: 99
Loc: Near Charlotte, NC
Thanks Flatfoot. Finally a list where someone shares their creations. I love this program, but often I m ask to perform songs for a special event that I just don't have the time to create. I was always hoping for a site where people post songs that we all know, but just needed the structure created as a shortcut. I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc... Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?

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#256028 - 07/11/14 08:02 AM Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?


That does look like a large collection. In past years it was very easy to find 1000's of BIAB Tunes on the internet. Today not so much due to, well you know... wink
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#256034 - 07/11/14 08:26 AM Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
.......... I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc...


Quite often, when I need to input a song into BB to use RB to render tracks, I find that it's just easier and faster to input the chords manually. Depends greatly on the chords used in the song as to whether ACW can figure it out accurately or not.

Inputting a song manually is generally a matter of only a few minutes. Since all verses and all choruses (respectively) are the same.... it's just the time to figure them out and then copy and paste. 10 to 15 minutes and I'm done. I have spent way more time than that trying to get ACW to give me something useful on several songs. Switched to manual and was done a few minutes later.
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#256036 - 07/11/14 09:29 AM Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
I love this program, but often I m ask to perform songs for a special event that I just don't have the time to create. I was always hoping for a site where people post songs that we all know, but just needed the structure created as a shortcut. I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc... Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?


My advice for these situations is download a MIDI version of the request and import it into your DAW. If you don't have a favorite DAW already then use the DAW that comes with BiaB, RealBand. Then delete the lead part and record your flute.

Another option is to buy a fake book that Notes Norton has a fake disc: http://nortonmusic.com/

Norton fake discs are BiaB backing tracks for all of the songs in the corresponding fake book. The backing tracks are in the same key and use the identical chord structure that is in the fake book. I find these extremely valuable. These save me a ton of time!

I hope this helps.
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#256046 - 07/11/14 12:30 PM Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
marty c Offline
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Registered: 11/24/11
Posts: 99
Loc: Near Charlotte, NC
Thanks guys. Don't see all the fuss in not allowing us to share - not sell - stuff we build in BIAB. Even cover songs. We all play these songs out - often for pay. That seems more illegal than sharing a BIAB file.

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