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#255781 - 07/08/14 05:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Getting started
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 6
Loc: Texas
I treated myself to the band in a box everything pack,just after install last year my world demanded me and I was away from music for half a year,I finally have some time now and want to play with the program. I am usually able to figure things out (eventually) but would really appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.
My instrument is flute and at this point all I want to do is have pre made songs play that I could play along with. like I said I think its all installed and the sound works but I dont know where to begin. thanks in advance for any help.and you can count on me in the future to contribute
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#255783 - 07/08/14 06:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
seeker Offline
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kaylen,

Your choice was excellent for the Everything Pak.
As you know some number of videos do come with that.

In addition PG folks have put together a great library of
additional videos.

Does take some time, but well worth the effort.
Pick and choose a bit to see what direction you want to go.
http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm

Also welcome to great set of forums and helpful members.
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#255785 - 07/08/14 06:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: seeker]
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 6
Loc: Texas
thank you . I will start there, I am not in a rush ,and actually do play my flute almost every day but I am looking forward to playing with some accompaniment
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#255793 - 07/08/14 07:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
Matt Finley Offline
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Welcome to the forum.

The way I started with BIAB (more than two decades ago) was to take a song I know very well and enter it into BIAB, then play around with it learning what each change does. Frank's tip about the videos is good and probably makes learning a lot easier now.

By the way, I play flute, and you are fortunate that you play a non-transposing instrument. BIAB handles instruments in other keys very well, but it does add another step to learn that you don't need.

Have fun!
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#255794 - 07/08/14 07:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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Hi Kaylen,

I remember when I first started with BIAB (version 2006). From that experience, I can say that there is definitely a learning curve associated with the program but it is well worth persevering. It's a great program. I couldn't be without the program these days.

All the best,
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#255803 - 07/08/14 09:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: Noel96]
kaylen Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 6
Loc: Texas
thanks all, I got it going, played along with a few.thats all I wanted to do for now ,,I plan to explore and try to figure out as much as I can, I feel very lucky that there are people willing to help, I will not abuse that and try my best to figure things out before asking of your time,,,
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#255821 - 07/08/14 11:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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kaylen,

We neglected to give you this.
It allows a person to zero in on specific subjects nicely.
http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq.htm
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#255844 - 07/09/14 09:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
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And..... you an always come to this forum to ask specific questions.
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#255871 - 07/09/14 04:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Perhaps, to get started, you may just want to have lots of songs to play along with. They are easy to get.

A number of users have built websites with lots of songs ready to go. One of them is posted below. Just found it myself a few days ago when I was looking for a particular song for a gig.

Should keep you busy for a while...

http://www.igidigi.nl/biab/index.html
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#255874 - 07/09/14 06:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
ZeroZero Offline
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Registered: 07/15/07
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The Beauty about Band in A Box (BIAB) is that you don't need to know the program in any depth. I use it every day for years and I simply either 1] select a song using the song select button, or, 2] enter a few chords into a blank screen, define tempo, key, number of bars and choruses (all done just above the chord sheet; choose a style, and off I go. its great for scale practice too, turn solo the drums and you have a great metronome.

If your unsure about the difference between Audio and MIDI, learn this first, before you go deeper.

Welcome smile


Edited by ZeroZero (07/09/14 06:17 PM)
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#256025 - 07/11/14 07:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
marty c Offline
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Registered: 11/24/11
Posts: 99
Loc: Near Charlotte, NC
Thanks Flatfoot. Finally a list where someone shares their creations. I love this program, but often I m ask to perform songs for a special event that I just don't have the time to create. I was always hoping for a site where people post songs that we all know, but just needed the structure created as a shortcut. I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc... Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?

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#256028 - 07/11/14 08:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?


That does look like a large collection. In past years it was very easy to find 1000's of BIAB Tunes on the internet. Today not so much due to, well you know... wink
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#256034 - 07/11/14 08:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
.......... I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc...


Quite often, when I need to input a song into BB to use RB to render tracks, I find that it's just easier and faster to input the chords manually. Depends greatly on the chords used in the song as to whether ACW can figure it out accurately or not.

Inputting a song manually is generally a matter of only a few minutes. Since all verses and all choruses (respectively) are the same.... it's just the time to figure them out and then copy and paste. 10 to 15 minutes and I'm done. I have spent way more time than that trying to get ACW to give me something useful on several songs. Switched to manual and was done a few minutes later.
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#256036 - 07/11/14 09:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
I love this program, but often I m ask to perform songs for a special event that I just don't have the time to create. I was always hoping for a site where people post songs that we all know, but just needed the structure created as a shortcut. I do use the ACW but it still takes time to correct, get the tempo right, etc... Thanks a ton for sharing. Got any more?


My advice for these situations is download a MIDI version of the request and import it into your DAW. If you don't have a favorite DAW already then use the DAW that comes with BiaB, RealBand. Then delete the lead part and record your flute.

Another option is to buy a fake book that Notes Norton has a fake disc: http://nortonmusic.com/

Norton fake discs are BiaB backing tracks for all of the songs in the corresponding fake book. The backing tracks are in the same key and use the identical chord structure that is in the fake book. I find these extremely valuable. These save me a ton of time!

I hope this helps.
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#256046 - 07/11/14 12:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Getting started [Re: kaylen]
marty c Offline
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Registered: 11/24/11
Posts: 99
Loc: Near Charlotte, NC
Thanks guys. Don't see all the fuss in not allowing us to share - not sell - stuff we build in BIAB. Even cover songs. We all play these songs out - often for pay. That seems more illegal than sharing a BIAB file.

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Mac Band-in-a-Box 2016 Patch Update - Build 161

Band-in-a-Box® 2016 for Mac users can download the latest patch here.

Summary of changes for Build 161:
Fixed: "[RT n/a]" would display for style long names if the style contained loops.
Fixed: _Loops and UserTracks would not display in the mixer.
Fixed: Drag and drop would fail for various RealTracks (eg. #518-#525, #680-#684, etc.). This bug only existed in the Japanese version.
Fixed: Newer styles would not have their names, descriptions, etc. translated from English. This bug only existed in localized versions.
Fixed: MIDI sustain pedal would not be shut off when stopping song or hitting Panic button.
Fixed: "Individual MIDI Tracks" in the Render dialog did not work.
Fixed: The style memo would display "RT2995" for tracks that contained loops.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash if user clicks on any of the main menus while booting up
Fixed: The 'F3' hot key symbol did not display in some popup menus.
Fixed: For some cases of opening or saving a file (eg choosing VST plugins), the file dialog would not open in the right directory.
Fixed: Audio Unit plugins would be erased from the exclude list while booting up Band-in-a-Box.
Fixed: Plugins on the Thru track should not be removed when loading a style or song.
Fixed: Options > Return to Factory Settings... would cause various problems (eg. the chord sheet would be squished to the left).

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Xtra Styles PAK 3 includes 160 new RealStyles for Rock-Pop, Jazz, Country, and Americana! These new Xtra Styles use recently implemented RealDrums features in Band-in-a-Box 2017 - like half-time/double-time mode and Multi-Drums. Get all 4 volumes in the All Xtra Styles PAK 3 on sale for just $29 (Reg. $49) during our Xtra Styles Special!

If you are looking for more RealStyles, the complete set of Xtra Styles PAKs 1-3 (with all 485 RealStyles) is available for only $99 during our Xtra Styles special.

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Mac RealTracks Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac users can download the latest RealTracks patch here.

This patch includes RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks updates we have made since the previous March 22 patch. The files updated are largely those that were released with Band-in-a-Box® 2017, although there are updates to some earlier ones as well.

Added: Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 now has complete transcriptions added and can be viewed in the notation or lead sheet window.
Fixed: _BHALSA (Waltz) Style was not set to ¾ time, and now uses a more appropriate Bass
Fixed: _BLUESKY.STY mistakenly had drums in style.
Fixed: _CASUALE Style mistakenly included MIDI Guitar and Strings tracks.
Fixed: _RAMPART Style Demo mistakenly had the Master Volume turned way up.
Fixed: =JOLEO_B did not allow user volume changes
Fixed: Bass, Electric, RockPickedA-B Ev 165 and RT 2589 Bass, Electric, PunkFuzzPickedA-B Ev 165 had timing issues with some of the riffs.
Fixed: Charango, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 was not playing sus chords.
Fixed: Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRock16thsJon Ev16 090 and RT2605 Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRockShuffleJon Sw 130 now have Hi-Q transcriptions. Now when the tablature or notation is viewed it will be more accurate and include bends, slides and other improvements.
Fixed: Loop file 'Trance - kit3beat135b ev16 tempo' was missing.
Fixed: NashvilleBrushesEasyBluegrass had the wrong audition demos.
Fixed: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm TrainBeatMike12-key Ev 16 090 was playing some slash chords.
Fixed: RealTracks Audition files for "Roadhouse" Resonator Guitar were mixed up.
Fixed: Some direct input files were mislabeled for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Rhythm NewOrleansMardiGras Ev16 085'.
Fixed: Some direct input files were missing for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Soloist GypsyClassicQuinn Sw 220'.
Fixed: Some small memo typos Fixed including _RESFOLK* _RESWALZ* _BLUESKY*
Fixed: Some style mistakenly specified held chords for tracks. E.G. _NOCARES, _SONGBRD, _SOULPOP, _DAYSEND, _CARRYON
Fixed: The endings were not working properly in the A substyle for two variations in the RealDrums DrivingPop8ths^.
Fixed: The notation subdivision for the RealStyle _ASTRAL.STY was previously incorrect, and has been Fixed.
Fixed: The RealTrack that use Shots and Holds 345 were playing some incorrect chords
Improved: Over 90 RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks have had the option for a 'Simple' arrangement Added. Now these RealTracks will play without embellishment when the Simple option is selected in the RealTracks picker.
Improved: More than 20 RealTracks now have Transcriptions enabled and the Simple option available.
Improved: Pianohld.sty has been improved, with better voice leading for the held piano.

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Windows - Build 467 Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Windows customers can install the latest patch update (Build 467) here.

Added: Several requested 'genre' user categories in the StylePicker.
Changed: "Tempo/Pitch Stretching Quality" now defaults to medium instead of low.
Fixed: "No Loop (WAV) chosen for this track" would display for some tracks in the Create Multi-Drums dialog.
Fixed: An "out of memory" error would occur in very long songs with lots of RealTracks. Some tracks would be silent when this happened. This might still happen, but the song size limit has doubled.
Fixed: Booting up Band-in-a-Box by double-clicking on a song file would cause any song-based RealTracks to be removed.
Fixed: Drag and drop would not extract the selected region on the chord sheet.
Fixed: If there were any style changes in a song, the Bar Settings layer would display "Style changes" on any bar that had any other type of changes (eg tempo, volume).
Fixed: Sometimes RealTracks would play a dominant 7th chord for plain major triad song chords.
Fixed: The Event List editor window would only work for the Melody or Soloist tracks.
Improved: Elastique has been updated from version 3.1.8 to 3.1.11.

Windows RealTracks Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks patch here.

This patch includes RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks updates we have made since the previous March 22 patch. The files updated are largely those that were released with Band-in-a-Box® 2017, although there are updates to some earlier ones as well.

Summary of changes:
Added: Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 now has complete transcriptions Added and can be viewed in the notation or lead sheet window.
Fixed: _BHALSA (Waltz) Style was not set to ¾ time, and now uses a more appropriate Bass
Fixed: _BLUESKY.STY mistakenly had drums in style.
Fixed: _CASUALE Style mistakenly included MIDI Guitar and Strings tracks.
Fixed: _RAMPART Style Demo mistakenly had the Master Volume turned way up.
Fixed: =JOLEO_B did not allow user volume changes
Fixed: Bass, Electric, RockPickedA-B Ev 165 and RT 2589 Bass, Electric, PunkFuzzPickedA-B Ev 165 had timing issues with some of the riffs.
Fixed: Charango, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 was not playing sus chords.
Fixed: Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRock16thsJon Ev16 090 and RT2605 Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRockShuffleJon Sw 130 now have Hi-Q transcriptions. Now when the tablature or notation is viewed it will be more accurate and include bends, slides and other improvements.
Fixed: Loop file 'Trance - kit3beat135b ev16 tempo' was missing.
Fixed: NashvilleBrushesEasyBluegrass had the wrong audition demos.
Fixed: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm TrainBeatMike12-key Ev 16 090 was playing some slash chords.
Fixed: RealTracks Audition files for "Roadhouse" Resonator Guitar were mixed up.
Fixed: Some direct input files were mislabeled for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Rhythm NewOrleansMardiGras Ev16 085'.
Fixed: Some direct input files were missing for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Soloist GypsyClassicQuinn Sw 220'.
Fixed: Some small memo typos Fixed including _RESFOLK* _RESWALZ* _BLUESKY*
Fixed: Some style mistakenly specified held chords for tracks. E.G. _NOCARES, _SONGBRD, _SOULPOP, _DAYSEND, _CARRYON
Fixed: The endings were not working properly in the A substyle for two variations in the RealDrums DrivingPop8ths^.
Fixed: The notation subdivision for the RealStyle _ASTRAL.STY was previously incorrect, and has been Fixed.
Fixed: The RealTrack that use Shots and Holds 345 were playing some incorrect chords
Improved: Over 90 RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks have had the option for a 'Simple' arrangement Added. Now these RealTracks will play without embellishment when the Simple option is selected in the RealTracks picker.
Improved: More than 20 RealTracks now have Transcriptions enabled and the Simple option available.
Improved: Pianohld.sty has been improved, with better voice leading for the held piano.

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac - Build 180 Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac customers can install the latest patch update (Build 180) here.

Added: Several requested 'genre' user categories in the StylePicker.
Added: Web links have been added to the Help menu.
Changed: "Tempo/Pitch Stretching Quality" now defaults to medium instead of low.
Fixed: "Save all tracks as M4A file..." was missing from the Master context menu.
Fixed: Drag and drop would fail if the song title contained a period (eg "Up with the Trees - BGRock.Sty Demo").
Fixed: Drag and drop would fail if the song title contained invalid file name characters (eg slashes).
Fixed: For localized versions, the long style name would be wrong on the main screen.
Fixed: If a flash message was showing, copy/cut/paste commands would not work in dialogs.
Fixed: If there were any style changes in a song, the Bar Settings layer would display "Style changes" on any bar that had any other type of changes (eg tempo, volume).
Fixed: New lines for sections on the chord sheet was not allowed when the song had repeats.
Fixed: Some hints in the Chord Builder were not showing transposed notes, and a % symbol was showing instead.
Fixed: Sometimes RealTracks would play a dominant 7th chord for plain major triad song chords.
Fixed: The Chord Builder would not update to the current bar/beat when re-opening the window.
Fixed: The Play-Loop button (in normal screen mode) was not displaying a check mark.
Fixed: The Play-Loop popup menu was all blank.
Fixed: The popup menus in the Chord Builder were not showing any chord descriptions.
Fixed: The right arrow key would not work in the chord sheet during playback if "MIDI Keyboard Wizard Enabled" was enabled.
Improved: Elastique has been updated from version 3.1.8 to 3.1.11.
Updated: Activation dialog has been improved.

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