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Here's a challenge for the good programmers at PGMusic..
you've already created tools to generate harmonies, solos, melodies and chords...
how about a utility to generate memorable bass lines in MIDI?
The bane of modern music is the bass playing the root note ALWAYS! So many of the old classics are instantly recognizable because of the signature bass line. I'm not asking for a pattern-based bass line like what's already possible in the MIDI styles... I'm talking about an algorithm that would examine the chords and build a unique bass pattern that repeats throughout the song (more like a melody, but for bass)
One of the things I have to do in every project is replace the semi-random bass line with a groove that I play. An algorithm that generated a consistent groove pattern that repeats throughout the song would be cool.. and handy.
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+1.
What a neat idea. Question, can the melodist output be transposed down an octave? If so perhaps the melodist output can be used as a starting point until Pat's idea is implemented. Who knows, while the output most likely would not match what you envisioned, you might like what the melodist created better.
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I am a long way from my BIAB computer at the moment but I remember a harmony, number 37 called Jaco and the initial instrument is a fretless bass so this sort of exists already. can the melodist output be transposed down an octave? Yes it can,all midi tracks can be transposed + or - 2 octaves, in the channel settings in preferences. In the days when I was midi only I used to use the melody, and soloist wizards in this way to achieve some interesting, and some extremely over the top, bass runs. Then I'd edit by mixing and matching the BIAB produced bass line with the transposed Melody, or Soloist, track. Alyn
Last edited by gibson; 09/14/14 11:05 PM. Reason: getting things right
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hey, good ideas regarding using the melody generator to accomplish the same thing!
I had presumed that the melody generator would come up with something that was too "busy" for a bass line... but maybe not. And since it's MIDI, I can edit it anyway.. so that would work with a little effort on my part
But it would still be cool to have a tool that was specifically geared toward BASS lines
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One application that comes to mind immediately:
1) use the melody generator to create a melody you like
2) copy its output to be edited for bass
3) lower the pitch for bass accordingly
4) delete extraneous notes and increase duration of remaining notes to fill the space
5) then drag the pitch so the bass complements the melody rather than duplicates it
end result: an original melody and complementing signature bass line all created in just a few minutes!
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Looks like you solved your own request right there! 
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