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Very good points, Scott. Yes, I will stick with my Aurelex panels and a horse blanket.
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I like Mat's idea of the horse blanket and some area rugs on the floor I personally think that there are many expensive ways to do treatments but in most cases if you can save a ton of cash doing it on the cheap and get almost identical results and if it doesn't work then just returning a rug to walmart is a lot easier than trying to return accoustic treatment panels......
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Peter, have you taken action? Results?
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I like Mat's idea of the horse blanket and some area rugs on the floor I personally think that there are many expensive ways to do treatments but in most cases if you can save a ton of cash doing it on the cheap and get almost identical results and if it doesn't work then just returning a rug to walmart is a lot easier than trying to return accoustic treatment panels......
There are inexpensive ways to do this. But there are also usually frequency limitations as to what home-brew methods will render. Rugs, in general, offer more absorption than nothing. However, much of absorption deals with the depth of the absorption. Deeper pile, will help to eat longer wavelengths (lower frequencies) than shorter pile. Whether or not there is a non-absorptive backing also matters. Pile material matters, etc. If you mount a rug on a frame and hang it out away from a wall by a few inches, it can have more absorption effect than laying it on the floor. Don't forget that a clothes closet in the room is a very absorptive environment. Open the door to the closet, get the clothing arranged so that it's sort of 'loose' but you can't see the back wall of the closet, and point the back of the mic at the clothes. This will work as well or better than the Reflexion filters and other 'portable vocal booth' devices on the market.
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You really got to love the irony when a spammer digs up a really old post that the "Boss" posted.... and makes that the one he posts in.
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Peter this guy Ethan Winer is a good resource. His new book is great. http://ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html
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Live or dead floor Quote from Ethan Winer.
LIVE OR DEAD - WHICH IS BEST AND WHERE?
If you've ever seen photos of high-end recording studios in magazines, you probably noticed that the studio room floors almost always use a reflective material like wood or linoleum. A hard floor gives a nice ambience when miking drums, guitar amps, and acoustic instruments. Likewise, auditorium stages and school band rooms always have a reflective floor surface too. As mentioned earlier, "live" in this context refers only to mid and high frequencies. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of a reflective floor for achieving a natural sound when recording acoustic instruments. If you record in your living room and your spouse refuses to let you remove the carpet, get a 4- by 8-foot sheet of 1/4-inch plywood to put over the carpet when recording. You can cut it in half for easier storage and put the halves next to each other on the floor when needed.
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I put egg crate style foam on the walls in my little studio , and I was surprised by how much it deadened the echo.
As a test I made the same sound in an untreated hallway outside my studio, and again inside my studio... it was noticeably "deader" in the studio.
This isn't even acoustic foam.. its packing foam I got from the manager of a local FED EX. The irregular surface is what tames the echo.
Not recommended for a pro studio, but for what I do, "the price was right for the tight" I've heard not to use egg crate for acoustic treat because it really does nothing. What I've done for my studio so far is had someone I know come and make costume panels for me. I haven't really been able to tell a difference because the room is pretty big and there's not a lot of panels placed on the walls. I also have a giant window on one of the sides of the room which may reflecting the echo.
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Hi Peter,
Unless you want to go with the expensive types recommended up top of the post, the foam wedgies you point to in your link are seen in a lot of rehearsal studios around here and seem to be quite popular.
At the Sam Ash music stores here, that is what they use to cover the walls in the rehearsal studios that are next door to one another. Folks seem to buy them out like crazy for their own home studios too. They are also pretty cheap. (The "Auralex" versions are the ones you will get around here.)
It may be all your need unless you need a $100,000 home recording studio.
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