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I've used BiaB for almost a year...not an expert. This PG Music video highlights the 'drag and drop' Drop Box function...it starts at about minute 16:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOvqyQ27tuAGuitarhacker walked me through his method too. Nice guy. I use Sonar X3 also, and good, bad, right or wrong, when a song is worked out in BiaB and ready for export, I open that BiaB .sgu file with Real Band. Then from RB I save it as a .seq file. In Real Band I add/generate more instances of instrument tracks as needed and then I drag them into Sonar. I found exporting from BiaB takes a long time and the volume was lower than if I exported from RB. I don't know why. I have the 2014 programs. This older video was helpful to me also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkN78DfWRQThis same author has two videos 'Cooking the Tracks with Real Band' that helped me too.
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ACMESOUNDS.....
One more question: What sound card and what driver are you using?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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In Band in a box, if you have only midi tracks then save it by choosing "Make a standard midi file" and save. I've used the BIB midi files directly in Sonar for every version of Cakewalk from 4 to Sonar X3 with no problems. However, if you have audio in the BIB project,that's a different ballgame. Sonar can't open BIB project files but RealBand can. Only way I know to get that into Sonar is either to save the whole thing as a wave file, or move it track by track.
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I can help here because this is what I am doing. First off there are some choices. 1. Do you want everything midi? 2. Do you want realtracks. The methods are different.
If I want to orchestrate along a particular style, I will go into preferences realdrums and turn the all drums play as real tracks off so I only get midi. That way I can use my own drum machines instead of the Roland.
There is a button at the bottom that says Make a midi file on the files menu If you click on that it will save your file for you. ---Back up--- I create a folder for the midiversions in the same folder as the styles are with the name of that style. So Styles 4 Larry 2 for a Larry Carlton style that I can pin Revalver onto in Cakewalk X3
If you want to use part midi part real tracks than use REalband and you can generate individual tracks and make sure you save the real tracks independently First because when you go to save midi it will save the midi files but it will erase your real tracks. So save Realtracks first.
Hope this helps.
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Another step that I am having issues with. Are the Biab instruments pre assigned to the Roland program channels If I try to replace the instruments by selection of an alternate. They keep resetting on odd instruments. I'm thinking that the original Biab file is programed to work with the Sound canvas GM1 format. Could that be why I am unable to make instrument changes. Is there a switch to turn off the GM compatibility so I can use my own instruments(vst)
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Yes, BIAB would include the patch information that matches the .PAT file you chose in BIAB to select a patch map for your MIDI device. Then, in SONAR, you will have a MASTER.INS file that works the same way, containing the mappings to the sounds used by MIDI in SONAR. Are you using the same MIDI hardware device for both programs, and do you have a patch map for it loaded in both programs? Unless everything matches, you will hear the wrong sounds. Regardless, you can just go into SONAR and choose a channel and patch for any MIDI track.
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curiosity hit me. Are you saying that I could find the m1 list and use that to export one of the demofiles based upon the korg midi format. Sorry I will restate this after I try what I think you are saying.
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Yes, that is what Matt is saying. Please refer to my response to you in your other thread you posted yesterday. In that response, I posted a link to the M1 patch list that you can use in BIAB, RB and X3.
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I am trying to follow you. Except that Biab will not change its size. When I click the top size gadget it doesn't make the bb window smaller. On the bottom I can flip between Sonar and BB but is there a settings on Cakewalk that I have to set to receive the clipboard. Where is that?
Also I fail to understand the drag and drop idea do I create at least as many tracks as I want to drag in at the onset of opening Sonar or Do I add 6 midi tracks Sonar automatically creates the Cakewalk TTS on my midi tracks Even when I click on normal I get the TTS opening up.
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Yay I figured it out. Thank you so much I was able to get it working with wav files but I am now trying to get the master to work with midi. That DAW has to be used and then Biab must be closed for each additional song the same thing with Sonar but I think I have the hang of it now. Thanks I have spent a week trying to figure this out.
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