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#27443 - 06/28/09 12:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Brallan]
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#27444 - 06/28/09 02:44 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Ryszard]
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Okay,
What happened was this.

Open up the Opt/MIDI Devices. I don't have the Forte installed on this computer. I set the Use DXi/VSTi button, and it opened the select panel. I chose TTS-1, and it closed. When I went to close the Opt/MIDI Device window, BIAB would crash...repeatedly.

What I did was clicked the Use DXi/VSTi button, didn't select ANY DXi and then closed the window. I got a message saying that there was no synth selected, which was fine, I clicked okay.

I closed the Opt/MIDI window, and it worked.

THEN, I went to the DXi button on the tool bar, and opened that, and selected the TTS-1.

Any time you open the Opt/MIDI devices window, though, with the DXI/VSTi selected, BIAB seems to crash, so it's kind of a backdoor way to get there. But, I'm listening to the TTS-1 playing in BIAB right now.

As to RB, kind of the same thing, and once I got it set up, and in a Synth slot, I could just go to the synth slot and for that track and select it. Also the 'Set all Tracks to TTS-1' worked as well.

Gary


Edited by Gary Curran (06/28/09 02:47 PM)
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#27445 - 06/29/09 11:33 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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Open up the Opt/MIDI Devices. I don't have the Forte installed on this computer. I set the Use DXi/VSTi button, and it opened the select panel. I chose TTS-1, and it closed. When I went to close the Opt/MIDI Device window, BIAB would crash...repeatedly.




Interesting, I've seen this before but not all the time. It's one of several weird problems that will crop up occasionally. This kind of thing, along with flaky ASIO and the well known VSTi tempo lock bug in Real Band are things I've talked about in other threads saying they should fix before they work on adding new features. If it really happens all the time Gary, I would report it to support. Right now, it's ok on my system. I just switched between Forte, TTS-1 and the VSC several times without a hitch but it has happened to me. I'm on XP SP3. I remember a few months back I spent some time trying to figure out if I did something to cause it but never found anything. It just seemed to happen randomly. Stuff like this I don't post about because it's not repeatable but in your case it looks like it is.

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#27446 - 06/29/09 11:57 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: jazzmammal]
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I tried selecting no VST/DXi instrument. I got the "You will hear no sound, OK?" message. I continue to get the "TTS-1 is not a valid VST" whether I choose the TTS-1 from the Options/MIDI menu or from the DXi Toolbar button. BIAB crashed completely a couple of times while repeating the process.

Who can confirm whether or not I have the correct files, or whether their location is an issue? In directory "TTS-1" (which I have put in the BB directory) I have TTS-1.dll; index_e.htm; in "Help" subdirectory, index_e.css and index_e.htm (again); in "Gif" subdirectory are five images labeled index_e-x.gif, where x is a number from 1 to 5.
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#27447 - 06/29/09 12:02 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Ryszard]
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Rys,
I don't know why anything would tell you that it's not a valid VST. The ONLY thing that I can think of is that you are not attempting to select it from the drop down list, but that you are going to 'Load VSTi' and going to the directory where the TTS-1 is located. Don't do that, if you are. The TTS-1 should be in the drop down menu list. Furthermore, the TTS-1 should be left in the Cakewalk directory where it was loaded.

Use the button (I forget which one, I'm not sitting in front of my music computer) that allows you to scan for new plug ins. Once you put the TTS-1 back in the Cakewalk directory, press that button, and it should find the TTS-1, since that is the location it will be registered in. Then, you can select it from the number 1 drop down menu.

DO NOT try to load it as a VSTi, it will not work.

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#27448 - 06/29/09 12:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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Gary:

He must be trying the add VSTi option because it doesn't appear on the drop-down list -- it doesn't appear on mine either, no matter what I do, and the TTS-1.dll is still in the cakewalk directory as you suggest. And so I have had no luck either.

Could it be that Vista Ultimate OS does something different than Home Premium? I don't know enough about OSs to guess.

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#27449 - 06/29/09 01:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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Rys,
I don't know why anything would tell you that it's not a valid VST.



Well, it does.

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The ONLY thing that I can think of is that you are not attempting to select it from the drop down list, but that you are going to 'Load VSTi' and going to the directory where the TTS-1 is located.



True.

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Don't do that, if you are. The TTS-1 should be in the drop down menu list.



It isn't.

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Furthermore, the TTS-1 should be left in the Cakewalk directory where it was loaded.



I don't have any Cakewalk products on the machine in question; I had a friend send me the .dll and associated files.

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Use the button (I forget which one, I'm not sitting in front of my music computer) that allows you to scan for new plug ins. Once you put the TTS-1 back in the Cakewalk directory, press that button, and it should find the TTS-1, since that is the location it will be registered in. Then, you can select it from the number 1 drop down menu.



Is it possible to register it when it is not part of a program?

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DO NOT try to load it as a VSTi, it will not work.



That's a big ten-four.
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#27450 - 06/29/09 01:36 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Ryszard]
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I don't have any Cakewalk products on the machine in question; I had a friend send me the .dll and associated files.




That's why. Unlike VSTis, DXis need to be installed. Without the installation, there is no record of it in the registry, and hence Windows doesn't know anything about it, and then nothing else knows about it.

It must be installed, and you'll have to do that with a Cakewalk product.

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#27451 - 06/29/09 01:41 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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Brad,
I don't know. You can try reinstalling your Cakewalk product and see if it works then. You're using Sonar 8, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.

Can you see it in Real Band?

Gary
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#27452 - 06/29/09 03:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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DX/DXi is NOT a .dll file.

VST/VSTi are .dll files.

DX/DXi is not a simple Dynamic Link Library at all. They are applications.

DX/DXi install to the OS and write to the registry. These must use an installer program.


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#27453 - 06/29/09 04:18 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Mac]
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Gary: Tried everything you've suggested -- No luck. I think I will let it go for now, let someone more persistent pursue this. I have Forte and SD2.

Mac: Under Program Files, in my Cakewalk directory, in the "Shared DXi" folder, in the "Tts-1" subdirectory, I have the file TTS-1.dll. Don't know if this sheds any light or not.

Brad


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#27454 - 06/29/09 04:26 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Brallan]
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#27455 - 06/29/09 04:33 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: D. Tuna]
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Some DXi's i have seen show a file like that but still do not work without an install. Perfect example Sampletank free 1 ands 2, both are DXi and VSTi plugs, but require a install you can't move them or they come apart somehow and can't find there parts. VSC has both a DXi and a VSTi both are installed programs, this is the way TTS-1 works. You have to install it with an installer. The proof is in the using, you see it but it won't load.
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#27456 - 06/29/09 04:44 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Robh]
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Rob,
Since Brad has installed Sonar 8PE, it should have installed with that. Hence, it should be available to PG Music products.

Brad, I'm not sure why you can't see it. Can you see other things like Groove Agent, and other DXi programs that came with Sonar?

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#27457 - 06/29/09 04:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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Your right Gary, but i was refering to the OP on this thread, who stated he had no cakewalk products installed, not Brad.
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#27458 - 06/29/09 04:58 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Gary Curran]
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I will look at DXMan when I have a chance.

Gary:

Yes, Sonar 8 and components are all installed, and TTS-1 just re-installed.
No, I cannot see any other DXi components, like Groove Agent, from Sonar in BB.
But, I do have Dimension Pro and Beatscape showing as VSTi add-ons, and as best I can tell so far, they work (altho my Dimension Pro just crashed).

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#27459 - 06/29/09 06:33 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 DXi synth doesn't work in 64-bit Vista . . . [Re: Brallan]
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Brad,
Did you find that button that rescans for plug ins? That would be under the Plug In window, but I don't recall where, exactly. Something in BIAB isn't seeing the DXis, and I don't know why.

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