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#274547 - 12/14/14 12:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MJames]
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So, in reality, there's really no argument here other than someone wanting 64 bit. Ray
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#274549 - 12/14/14 12:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: rharv]
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My understanding is that each 32 bit app gets it's own separate space, and for practical purposes, it is 2GB of space. If necessary a 32 bit app can get more than that, using some tricks. Band-in-a-Box currently doesn't come close to needing the 2GB.

It is discussed further here...

http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2004/02/19/the-4gb-windows-memory-limit-what-does-it-really-mean.aspx
"In the 32-bit Windows world, each application has its own “virtual” 4GB memory space. (This means that each application functions as if it has a flat 4GB of memory, and the system's memory manager keeps track of memory mapping, which applications are using which memory, page file management, and so on.)

This 4GB space is evenly divided into two parts, with 2GB dedicated for kernel usage, and 2GB left for application usage. Each application gets its own 2GB, but all applications have to share the same 2GB kernel space."
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#274611 - 12/14/14 07:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: PeterGannon]
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Please no 64 bit before genuine 6/8 & 12/8 smile
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#274613 - 12/14/14 08:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: Beachboy]
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Originally Posted By: Beachboy
Please no 64 bit before genuine 6/8 & 12/8 smile


Well said.

And count-in's that count in at the same time signature as the first bar of the song...
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#274626 - 12/15/14 01:23 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: PeterGannon]
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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon

My understanding is that each 32 bit app gets it's own separate space, and for practical purposes, it is 2GB of space. If necessary a 32 bit app can get more than that, using some tricks. Band-in-a-Box currently doesn't come close to needing the 2GB.

It is discussed further here...

http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2004/02/19/the-4gb-windows-memory-limit-what-does-it-really-mean.aspx
"In the 32-bit Windows world, each application has its own “virtual” 4GB memory space. (This means that each application functions as if it has a flat 4GB of memory, and the system's memory manager keeps track of memory mapping, which applications are using which memory, page file management, and so on.)

This 4GB space is evenly divided into two parts, with 2GB dedicated for kernel usage, and 2GB left for application usage. Each application gets its own 2GB, but all applications have to share the same 2GB kernel space."



Peter are you absolutely certain about these facts? For a start I think that Windows used 1.3 gig approx., not 2. I am also very suspicious that 'each app gets its own 2 gig' is not exactly as it seems. I have always heard that 1.7 gig is the max with 32 bit architecture.

Another Reason to design in 64 bit: If there is going to be a future development of BIAB (beyond surface tweaks) , why do this in 32 bit? If, at some point in the future 64 bit coming (sometime, someway - like the song) better to develop in 64 bit sooner. Unless your thinking 64 bit is not the future, or we will never need it.

I would want to see a slick and powerful presence of "Son of BIAB" flexing its muscles in the big boys world, showing its impact as a VST/DXI. Your way ahead of the market in so many ways - check out Cubase 8's 'chord pads' trumpeted as a big feature - it's a toy in comparison with Band in a Box, but some of the visual ways it uses to display chord options are way ahead of you. There are so many potential uses in these pro sequencer pools that you are simply not reaching - good users, long term, dedicated, knowledgeable.


https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cubase/start.html check out the Chord Pads video


Its not infeasible that 32 bit may go the way of 16 bit.. we get these surprising leaps sometimes.

I always had trouble with my 32 bit sequencer, on ten or so different PC's as soon as I loaded orchestral stuff. Then, as soon as 64 bit came along, everything stopped stuttering and just works. Simple.

Z



Edited by ZeroZero (12/15/14 01:39 AM)
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#274646 - 12/15/14 05:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: PeterGannon]
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You folks are much more knowledgeable than I in these technical matters and ,as a result, perhaps you could clarify a point for me.

In in Peter's post there is a quote: "and the system's memory manager keeps track of memory mapping, which applications are using which memory, page file management, and so on".

One of the advantages to a 64 bit system, to my way of thinking, is that a 64 bit, using more RAM, allows a system to have less dependency on swapping to the page file on the hard drive. Is my thinking correct?
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#274650 - 12/15/14 05:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: sixchannel]
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Originally Posted By: sixchannel
One mans meat -- etc.
Go to 64 bit and keep MJames as a customer but lose me??
I'm not about to change my XP based PC any time soon - too many "old" programs that work perfectly and won't on Win8.
Peter, no matter what you do, you won't please all of the people all of the time.
Ian


I agree with sixchannel.
I've got too many old programs that would be too expensive to replace.
The jump to 64 bit would be too costly for me.
You'd lose my yearly biab upgrade if the 32 bit biab disappeared.


Edited by DHD (12/15/14 05:23 AM)
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#274660 - 12/15/14 06:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: DHD]
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FYI- 64-bit Win 7 Pro has a 32-bit emulator. Every old 32-bit program that I tried with it works, including Windows Office 97 and Corel Photopaint 7. Corel Photopaint 7 is a Win 95 program.

It was because of the emulators that I chose Win 7 Pro.
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#274671 - 12/15/14 06:25 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MJames]
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As most of you know I am a big proponent for 64-bit and in fact BiaB is the only NEW 32-bit program on my system. I am going to speak for myself but I do believe that many others wanting 64-bit feel the same way I do.

I do not want the current BiaB/RB just converted to 64-bit. I would like a complete rewrite in both 32 and 64 bit that includes but not limited to real support for time signatures other than n/4 (6/8, 12/8, 5/4, 7/4 etc), a better GUI, improved VST and VSTi support, chord input every 16th note, using all 16 MIDI channel as I see fit (MIDI, RTs, thru, MIDI guitar, etc), etc.

I know that this may be impossible with the current PGMusic staff at this time. However they do allow me to respectfully wish for such a rewrite. Thank you for that.
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#274695 - 12/15/14 09:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD

I do not want the current BiaB/RB just converted to 64-bit. I would like a complete rewrite in both 32 and 64 bit that includes but not limited to real support for time signatures other than n/4 (6/8, 12/8, 5/4, 7/4 etc), a better GUI, improved VST and VSTi support, chord input every 16th note, using all 16 MIDI channel as I see fit (MIDI, RTs, thru, MIDI guitar, etc), etc.

I know that this may be impossible with the current PGMusic staff at this time. However they do allow me to respectfully wish for such a rewrite. Thank you for that.





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#274696 - 12/15/14 09:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MarioD]
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Ok I'm late to the party on this one but I have a couple of questions. Is the current bar limit in BIAB which I think is 255 (correct me if I'm wrong) a limit imposed by the 32 bit architecture and thus memory limit? Or is it just that the programmers haven't figured out to do that yet? The track count we can currently have playing at one time is I think 7 if you count the melodist and soloist. Is that limit based on 32 bit architecture limitations or just a programming decision.

I ask these questions because everyone is debating whether or not there is any benefit going to 64 bit. If the answer to these questions is the limits are imposed by the 32 bit architecture than I would say yes there would be a benefit. Particularly the bar limit which has been a frequent request over the last few years.

If it's programming then how about we get these done before adding some fancy video editor. Also is the ancient UI (yes its still ancient) a limit of the 32 bit architecture? These are legitimate questions. These are things people have been asking for and since no reason has been given why they have yet to be implemented I think most people think it would take a 64 bit rewrite to get them.

Now in all honesty the program works for what I use it for and if I'm honest with myself I probably don't need a 64 bit version. I will say this though. Despite all the wonderful things this program does it looks old. There are a lot of people who will not buy it because it looks old. The fact that you can't buy a new 32 bit computer by perception alone makes this program old. How many more units could PGM sell if they addressed the UI alone? How much more legitimacy would they gain in the professional audio market?

I love this program, it has allowed me to create music I could never do on my own. If the questions I posed can be addressed in the current 32 bit system then lets get this done. If it requires a 64 bit rewrite to get them then lets get it done and quit moaning about it. Everybody benefits.

The 32 bit version is great and if they stopped developing it today it won't effect any current user. Why all the 32 bit guys are afraid a 64 bit version will somehow change the 32 bit version to no longer work or be available I don't know. It is what it is. The 64 bit would be a new product ( a stand alone product) or at least it should be.

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#274699 - 12/15/14 09:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MJames]
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Jeff, I could be completely wrong, but I don't think either of the first two examples you gave are related to the difference between 32-bit versus 64-bit architecture of the application program or operating system.

255 is actually an 8-bit concept. The range from 0 to 255 is 256 total values, expressed as 2 raised to the eighth power. The architecture of the program or operating system has not been the limit for that for many decades, and the answer to why there is the 255 measure limit lies elsewhere.

As for the 7 usable channels, I believe that limit is related to one bank of MIDI that has 16 channels. You may only see 7 but there are more used when you have the guitar broken out into separate tracks for export, and/or use the MIDI harmonies available in BIAB from the pull-down menu. For example, take a look at Preferences, Channels and then click on Harmony. You will see channels 11 through 14 used for harmony. In other words, there goes four more tracks in addition to the more obvious seven that you thought were the limit. MIDI channel 1 used to be commonly used by some programs for control information, so there goes one more...

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#274704 - 12/15/14 09:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
As most of you know I am a big proponent for 64-bit and in fact BiaB is the only NEW 32-bit program on my system. I am going to speak for myself but I do believe that many others wanting 64-bit feel the same way I do.

I do not want the current BiaB/RB just converted to 64-bit. I would like a complete rewrite in both 32 and 64 bit that includes but not limited to real support for time signatures other than n/4 (6/8, 12/8, 5/4, 7/4 etc), a better GUI, improved VST and VSTi support, chord input every 16th note, using all 16 MIDI channel as I see fit (MIDI, RTs, thru, MIDI guitar, etc), etc.

I know that this may be impossible with the current PGMusic staff at this time. However they do allow me to respectfully wish for such a rewrite. Thank you for that.








Exactly. Outstanding summation, Mario. To me, this one would be the most important:


"...chord input every 16th note..." cool


I must say that I find it amusing that with a program that does all this one can do, people constantly complain about bit depth, graphics, menus, etc. Sure, every user has a wishlist of changes that would benefit him/her personally. Chord input every 16th would would make BIAB 500% more useful to me, but to someone else? Who knows?

I lack the technical knowledge of the computer experts here (Like Dr. Gannon), so I'm not qualified to voice an opinion on 32 vs.64. In fact, reading this thread gave me a headache. grin

I have been using the program for a few years now though, and I've barely scratched the surface of it's capabilities. It is the greatest songwriting tool every invented.

Now, if it only had chord entry every 16th, it would be the greatest greatest songwriting tool ever! laugh
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#274705 - 12/15/14 09:46 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: 90 dB]
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Aaarrrggghhhh!! (not you 90 DB, you are just the last post I'm attaching to)

I worked with a guy who is famous (in very small closed circles) for saying:

"There is no horse so dead it can't be beat some more"

but even he would think this thread is now bordering on the absurd.

So may as well jump in here - but first let it be known I am above all an unabashed free market capitalist pig (who would have pulled out finger nails - not water boarded), but I digress.

Back to BIAB: that crappy, slow, dodgy, never runs, can't possibly make any music with it (because it looks ugly, duh? Susan Boyle is no model either), POS software which, can't even load ubiquitous terabyte and awesome unlooped side stick rim shots or petabyte sine wave flutes.


OK here's what you do to fix PG's wagon:

1. First, and this is important: only those experienced programmers, who are obviously working on bleeding edge classified real-time SW for LM, Boeing, Raytheon, other, but unnamed, corps., etc., and who have hands-on expertise in AdA and other real-time critical appropriate languages (C++ is NOT - but pretends to be) force PG to go public. (with those qualifications and being tops in your field of writing RT SW - how you folks also have time to write Grammy, CMA, … winning songs is beyond me).

2. Now this group needs to pool your money and buy at least 51% of the now public stock.

3. Then get seats on the board and fire the President (wish I could fire MINE), and fire the CEO, CFO, COO, CPO, CM(usic)O, and all other PG staff.

4. Then hire all new staff (but I guess you do not really need to; because, you are already better than PG staff)

5. Then do a slick re-write so that BIAB looks shiny new like polished chrome and glass. Also make it web based, think first "Open Web DAW" (analogous to Office 360, etc. ). And since you are all that good you can even make it run real-time over the web to sample accurate timing levels so all users can jam together with no lag time (unlike us mortals who can't do this on high speed data links).

6. Also we don’t want to leave anybody out or hamper their ability to modify at will and "have it their way" so may as well make it open source code as well. The plus here is that you have bragging rights over the much vaunted an oft pointed to Reaper because even they don’t have open source code (those money grubbin' has beens).

7. Don’t want to be "behind the times" so this flawless, bug free, complied code should require MINIMUM PC specs (for this 21st century AHAB[iab] "Acerbic Human Arranger of Bands [in a box]) of :"

i7-5960x or better (min clock 4ghz), 32 GB DDR4 3333MHZ RAM, Win 9 (since it's almost here), with MINIMUM HDD access times no less than SOTA solid-state drives (using CY 2014 reference period).


8. Now sell it for a break-even price of (to the scores of users who buy it)? This is all altruistic right?

Larry


Edited by Larry Kehl (12/15/14 01:02 PM)
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#274707 - 12/15/14 09:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Not Buying Another Upgrade Until BIAB is 64 Bit. [Re: MJames]
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Larry, I love the "Windows 9" part, as Microsoft skipped right over it! [I think 10 is great so far]
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Vi har haft travlt, og har tilføjet mere end 50 nye funktioner og en fantastisk samling af nyt indhold, bl. a. RealTracks, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Loops, Artist Performances, Amplitube presets og dertil hørende stilarter, 12-tonearter RealTracks og Hi-Q Guitar Notation! Vi har tilføjet 202 nye RealTracks, hvilket er det dobbelte af de 101, vi ofte tidligere har udgivet! Vi introducerer Video RealTracks (40 i genrerne Country, Pop, and Jazz), som fungerer helt som RealTracks, men også har videoer af musikerne, mens de spiller! Vi har også lavet en ny Xtra Styles PAK 4 med 160 nye Xtra Stilarters. (Xtra stilarter er stilarter baseret på tidligere udgivne RealTracks). Der er mere end 200 nye RealStyles baseret på vores nye RealTracks bl.a. Americana, Klezmer, Top-40, Jazz stryger pads, Vokal (ooh og aah), Ny Crooner "Shout" BigBand stilart og meget mere! Vi har en Bonus 49-PAK med 40 ekstra ikke tidligere udgivne RealTracks foruden de 202 ovenfor nævnte, så alt i alt er der 242 nye RealTracks til rådighed! Bonus 49-PAK indeholder også Video RealTracks sæt 1 og 2, 32 nye MIDI SuperTracks, 108 nye Instrumental Studies, 52 Loops og 8 Artist Performances.

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