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http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gifI use both a USB keyboard and an AKAI EWI-USB MIDI input devices in other MIDI based products with no problem. The keyboard works well in BIAB. But my wind controller is not recognized as an input device. The EWI uses MIDI over USB protocols just as my Roland SC-8820 tone module. No problem with the SC-8820! BIAB does recognise the EWI (Electronic wind Instrument) as and output device. Any thoughts on how I can get this to work??
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Does your EWI show up in the Audio Midi Setup application in your utilities folder?
If not, you'll have to rescan devices
Thor
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I use both a USB keyboard and an AKAI EWI-USB MIDI input devices in other MIDI based products with no problem.
The keyboard works well in BIAB. But my wind controller is not recognized as an input device.
The EWI uses MIDI over USB protocols just as my Roland SC-8820 tone module. No problem with the SC-8820!
BIAB does recognise the EWI (Electronic wind Instrument) as and output device.
Any thoughts on how I can get this to work??
Output device? Why would you want to set it up as an Output device? Or do you mean input device?
If you have it configured in Audio/Midi correctly, then you'd just need to select it in the Midi setup for BinaB.....though I hope they really straighten out that part of the program....it is so.....retro.....
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Sure does. I use LOGIC Studio and can create a strip that recognizes the EWI-USB and its Garritan Aria interface with no problem. 
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I do not want the EWI to be used as an output device.
I just wanted to mention that while BIAB does not recognize the EWI-USB as an input device, it does recognize it as an output device.
And that does not make any sense.
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Hey, I've got the same EWI and the same problem. Have you figured out how to fix it?
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Hey, my AKAI EWI USB still doesn't work with BIAB. Shame because I can't use it to play melodies into BIAB. Anyone fix this or know how to set it up?
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After downgrading my system back to 10.5.8, I can play melodies into BIAB. HOWEVER, I STILL don't see that as a choice under midi input in the midi menu.
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Hey guys,
Can you update me on the status of getting your EWI USB to be seen by BIAB as an Input?
I did find out that you must have the EWI checked in both INPUT & OUTPUT in Aria. This didn't make sense to me, as I was sure I didn't need to worry about the output.
This is a BIG dealbreaker for me if I can't use the EWI USB with Snow Leopard and BIAB.
Thanks,
Ed
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Hi,
Are you sure you have set it up in the Audio MIDI Setup window? To get there, go to /Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup (or you can choose the menu option in Band-in-a-Box). You should see a MIDI interface icon there, that is connected to an "external device" with a cable. You would just need the one cable going from the output on the device to the input on the interface. Click the Test Setup button, and play your controller. If that doesn't do anything or if you don't see an interface there at all, then perhaps you have to install software from the manufacturer.
If you get it configured properly there, open Band-in-a-Box and you should be able to choose the input in the CoreMIDI-choose ports dialog. (If Band-in-a-Box was open and you made a change in the Audio MIDI Setup window, quite and restart the program.
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Hey guys,
Looking for any update on these EWI USB issues? Andrews post is right on the money, but I'm wondering if anyone now has the EWI seen as a proper input, midi wise?
Thanks,
Ed
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Hi Ed And Andrew
I am an advanced user of BIAB and Logic Studio. As has been said previously there is no issue running the EWI-USB in logic... Not one Issue!
This is not the case with BIAB. I bet Andrew has not tried hooking up an actual Akai EWI-USB, have you Andrew. I know I can't.
BIAB will not recognize the EWI as a proper input… Period! If the EWI operates with other systems but not BIAB, then BIAB is at fault.
Garritan can't help with this as it is a PG Music issue. Listen, I've been a BIAB user when it ran under MS-DOS.
I love BIAB but you people need to support the MAC crowd somewhat better than you have in the past.
Yes, MAC's have only 5% of the entire market, but that is still millions upon millions of users. Users that are heavily concentrated in the Arts, many very seriously so.
For example I write movie scores. We need some help here.
Bob Rutkas
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A BIG +1 to Bob's post above!! We need to get this working in BIAB. I have tried every method I can find, I have also downloaded programs that claim to provide a software midi input, etc. Nothing I have tried so far is working. I would love to use my EWI USB with Biab live on my gigs, but at this point I just cannot make it work.
Since the EWI does show up as a valid input for both Logic, Pro Tools 8 and Sibelius, why will it NOT show up in BIAB? Pulling my hair out here, not much left.....so an answer from the Techs at PG would be very welcome right now.
Thanks,
Ed
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Hi, Quote:
Since the EWI does show up as a valid input for both Logic, Pro Tools 8 and Sibelius, why will it NOT show up in BIAB?
I don't know, but can someone post a screenshot of their CoreAudioMIDI Setup window, or email a screenshot, or describe it.
(I realize you probably have it set up correctly, but haven't seen that confirmed in this thread).
Andrew
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I am also never at fault. Stuff is not my fault.
It's everyone's elses problem. I spent 3 weeks to make my TC Helicon Voicelive to work.
I should have dissed the software. Works fine now that I understand the thing.
One must describe the entire process you are using, including midi port,input device, output devices, midi instruments in the chain, and what the output from the midi monitor shows. And what midi settings one is using. So, in short, there are a lot of variables. One must at first eliminate I.O. errors. If you don't know what I.Ol means, well figure it out....
Oh and by the way, once this Idiot Operator figured out what I was doing wrong, it worked just fine....
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uhh, the previous by john is almost in coherent to me. Dude, you're supposed to be helping people in this forum, not adding to the confusion!
I would like to report that also my Akai EWI USB is not working inside BIAB. I don't know how to do screen shots in here, but I can tell you that it works just fine as an input device in Finale, Logic Express and Garage Band. In the end, I cannot play melodies into BIAB.
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You may have to record your backing tracks into another program, such as Reaper, and then play your EWI USB into that. This was discussed at length at www.patchmanmusic.com/forum/ One person out of many was able to get his EWI to work at the same time with BIAB and he really didn't know how he did it. Most were trying just to get BIAB and the EWI to to play together and only one or the other would play. Later, Ray
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I don't know how to do screen shots in here
You could just send it as an attachment to support@pgmusic.com. Command+Shift+4 is an easy way to get the screenshot.
Andrew
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Ok, I'll post any pics you want. What do you want to see?
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Thanks - just a screenshot of the CoreAudio MIDI Setup window...
Andrew
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