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I was listening to the artist performances sets the other night and was very impressed. Now here is the question, can these be used in song bed like the RTs can, maybe added into a song and sliced and diced up the solos used with a current song project? Any one tinkered with this yet.
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I think not. The performance tracks are fully audio recordings of a specific song. These are not real tracks. At least this is my understanding.... 
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hhhmmmm me wonders if they could be saved as a loop,then tempo and pitch stretched?!?!?
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Not at all crazy. Open the APT SGU and wma got to start of Ending > Bar (F5) UserTracks > Ending Starts on this bar (4 bar ending) > Ok > Ok Save As SGU choose Artist Track as Audio (Guitar, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 SGU & wav) save in a Folder in bb\RealTracks\UserTracks\Guitar, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 you can change the Key and save it in same folder as Guitar, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 2 SGU & wav but you can't stretch too much. 
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Hey rolidsock, that was what i was talking about. Now if you could go over that again in engrish! lol
I did not quite follow you.
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1. Open Realband (make sure 2 Bar Ending is checked) 2. Click Open > navigate to C:\bb\Artist Performance Sets\Artist Performance Set 4 - Brent Mason Country Master 3. Open "Country Boogie, Swing 8ths, 140bpm.MGU" 4. Drag & Drop "Country Boogie, Swing 8ths, 140bpm Melody.wma" into an empty track 5. Open Chord window (Ctrl+3) > click on Bar 129 (not on number) This is the start of 4 bar ending. 6. Click the "Bar" button or F5 7. Click "UserTracks" button > Check 2nd box down (Ending starts on this bar (4 bar ending) 8. Click "Ok" > Click "Ok" 9. Go to File > Save As > Save Type Band-in-a-Box Songs (.?G?) 10. Navigate to X:\bb\RealTracks\UserTracks 11. Create a folder "Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140" 12. Open that folder and save "Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 E(key).SGU" 13. For Audio Select "Country Boogie, Swing 8ths, 140bpm Melody" Track (APT) 14. Now go to the Key Drop Menu and change the Key Check Transpose Audio & Midi 15. Go to File > Save As > Save Type Band-in-a-Box Songs (.?G?) 16. Navigate to X:\bb\RealTracks\UserTracks 17. Save in same folder "Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140" 18. Save name "Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 D(key).SGU" 19. For Audio Select "Country Boogie, Swing 8ths, 140bpm Melody" Track (APT) 20. Generate UserTrack > Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country Boogie Sw 140 **Copy the Styles in Artist Performance folders to your Styles Folder so you don't get a Style not found error when trying to save the the UT.SGU Else use another style.  After Generating UT you will have these extra bt* files: 
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You can open the tracks with any audio editor, so why not?
Open Sonar, for example..... import the track files...and slice, dice, and hit ti with melodyne to your heart's content.
I think that the tracks are not necessarily a song in that sense but are specific PATTERNS of chords in a given order. 1-4-5-etc..... So that RB & BB know where to find what they need in a given file.
I never listened to them all the way through in their raw form. I went in specifically to hear the key they were in. I've found that if you can use them in, or close to the original key, you will have less artifacts in the track later on and the instrument tends to sound "more real" because it's cleaner from having less processing needed to get it to the correct key for your song project.
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This does look "crazy" to me. Is this all associated with the User track feature? Is that what is going on here?
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that's very cool! Thanks for sharing!
Coincidentally, I tried something very similar yesterday. I had a song that is only one instrument (celtic harp). I opened it in ACW mode and mapped the tempo and chords. Then I saved it as an SGU file and WAV in the user tracks folder.
I'm pretty sure I did everything according to the instructions. I can load it as a user track, but I can't get it to generate any audio... and I'm wondering if the tempo map has something to do with it. The recording was very nuanced, not at a consistent tempo at all. RB may have choked on assigning a new tempo.
HAs anybody here successfully made a user track out of a tempo mapped SGU?
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If you generate a midi track it will have the tempo map then open it Reaper along with the audio and you should be able to Quantize the audio.
Then back in RB remove the tempo map and drag the set tempo wav back in and the Save As SGU. .
I do that with multi track drums if the tempo is not out by much.
Set Project Tempo.
Create an Action Hotkey to move to next beat and insert Stretch Marker.
View show Master Track Alt+T.
Right click on Tempo points > select all
Right click on Tempo points > reset points to zero/center
Highlight from start to end.
Item > Snap Stretch Markers within time selection to grid.
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