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I apologize again to all those I have offended.
Rob. hey Rob, nobody's offended! No need to apologize! You are a well-liked member of the forum, and I hope you know that! I apologize if we have made you feel uncomfortable! That was never my intent, and I sincerely hope it wasn't anybody else's intent either. This is certainly not an action against you or anybody else. Rather it is a reaction to the realization that there is no rule about how often people can post, and based on forum input, there apparently needs to be. Hopefully we can get an official guideline on the topic. If anybody should apologize, it should be me, because my effort to gently influence the matter has turned somewhat heavy-handed, and that was never my intent. Please accept my apology. We're all friends here, and I really think that the best way to keep us all friends is to get this nailed down so everybody knows what's expected and nobody ever gets blind-sided again by a group expectation that isn't spelled out anywhere.
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I have watched this subject going around on the forum lately. While it's true there have been a few heavy posters, I just want to say that inspiration is a wonderful thing and usually hard to come by. I would like to encourage our new friends to continue with their passionate pursuits. Maybe posting on other forums too, switching it up, or shelving a few for dryer times would work. You guys are all doing cool stuff, and I don't want to be any part of discouraging your excitement and creativity. Take care. Greg
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Hello Pat and Trevor,
We definitely agree that posting multiple songs at once is not a good idea. One song every week should be the max.
We also think that this should become a forum rule.
Nobody's work deserves to be out of view (dropped from the first page) to soon. Besides, listeners will soon loose interest in posters who place too much songs in too little time.
Something else to consider: although this program is truly great, and it's pretty easy to create lots of songs in a very short time, you should post only your best recordings on the forum. If you create several songs in one week, choose the one you think is best and place that one on this forum. Place the other two on other forums or websites.
Rob & Anne-Marie
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Couldn't have said it better R & AM.
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Here's an idea: Why not just do away with the guidelines, and appoint a Screening Committee to audition proposed submissions to determine if they meet the Criteria established by the Committee? 1. Does the Submitter have a song currently on Page 1? 2. Is there anything “actionable” in the submission? 3. Is this one of the Submitter's “best recordings” 4. Has the Submitter made sufficient obsequious comments on other poster's songs? That might work. When are the elections?  Here's another idea: Why not leave changes to the Showcase guidelines to PG Music and people who actually post music there? 
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Here's an idea: Why not just do away with the guidelines, and appoint a Screening Committee to audition proposed submissions to determine if they meet the Criteria established by the Committee? 1. Does the Submitter have a song currently on Page 1? 2. Is there anything “actionable” in the submission? 3. Is this one of the Submitter's “best recordings” 4. Has the Submitter made sufficient obsequious comments on other poster's songs? That might work. When are the elections? Bob, you raise some legitimate questions here in a funny way... and I think that's good. But the core thing we're dealing with here is a difference of opinion that has potential to split the forum into factions. Based on comments I've read, most of us want to settle the differences amicably and end up with an official guideline... and NOT split the group into factions. The problem with your input here is that it is specifically intended to declare a new faction that's at odds with the position echoed by just about everybody who has weighed in so far. Why are you doing that? Here's another idea: Why not leave changes to the Showcase guidelines to PG Music and people who actually post music there? well, apparently you mean me. Two responses to that question: 1) if you actually read the whole thread, the first umpteen posts were made by people who actually post music. 2) If anybody who posts raised the issue it would have come across as self-serving. I'm a neutral party since I don't post, and therefore it makes sense for the impartial observer to present the will of the posters to PGMusic to see if they agree. I don't care one way or the other.. why would I? But people who post on the user showcase communicate with me, and I have been aware for a long time that this is an issue that could potentially blow up on us if it doesn't get addressed. So we're trying to address it and maintain harmony in the group. Now, regarding your legitimate objections: I actually agree in principle that fewer rules are almost always the way to go. It's worth mentioning that both groups... the veteran posters AND the new posters... have both expressed a desire for an official guideline on this.
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The "please don't post too many songs at once" is a guiding principle at EVERY songwriting web site that I know about. It is good to learn that lesson here instead of at some places that might be less friendly. PGFantanstic and I just finished FAWM (14 songs and 28 days) and we could have easily approached world domination by posting all of our songs here! Hmmm, world domination sounds like a fun hobby.
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Here's an idea: Why not just do away with the guidelines, and appoint a Screening Committee to audition proposed submissions to determine if they meet the Criteria established by the Committee? 1. Does the Submitter have a song currently on Page 1? 2. Is there anything “actionable” in the submission? 3. Is this one of the Submitter's “best recordings” 4. Has the Submitter made sufficient obsequious comments on other poster's songs? That might work. When are the elections? Bob, you raise some legitimate questions here in a funny way... and I think that's good. But the core thing we're dealing with here is a difference of opinion that has potential to split the forum into factions. Based on comments I've read, most of us want to settle the differences amicably and end up with an official guideline... and NOT split the group into factions. The problem with your input here is that it is specifically intended to declare a new faction that's at odds with the position echoed by just about everybody who has weighed in so far. Why are you doing that? Here's another idea: Why not leave changes to the Showcase guidelines to PG Music and people who actually post music there? well, apparently you mean me. Two responses to that question: 1) if you actually read the whole thread, the first umpteen posts were made by people who actually post music. 2) If anybody who posts raised the issue it would have come across as self-serving. I'm a neutral party since I don't post, and therefore it makes sense for the impartial observer to present the will of the posters to PGMusic to see if they agree. I don't care one way or the other.. why would I? But people who post on the user showcase communicate with me, and I have been aware for a long time that this is an issue that could potentially blow up on us if it doesn't get addressed. So we're trying to address it and maintain harmony in the group. Now, regarding your legitimate objections: I actually agree in principle that fewer rules are almost always the way to go. It's worth mentioning that both groups... the veteran posters AND the new posters... have both expressed a desire for an official guideline on this. “The problem with your input here is that it is specifically intended to declare a new faction that's at odds with the position echoed by just about everybody who has weighed in so far. Why are you doing that?” Man. Where do you come up with this stuff? “... specifically intended to declare a new faction...” I don't even know what that means. I would never knowingly be a part of any 'faction'. Allow me to elucidate. My 'input' here was specifically intended to observe that something that could have been discreetly handled in PM's has caused embarrassment to some new members by admonishing them in an open forum – unnecessarily. I would ask you your own question to me: “Why are you doing that?”“if you actually read the whole thread, the first umpteen posts were made by people who actually post music.” Actually, the first post is a quote from you, admonishing a new member for improper etiquette. “Now, regarding your legitimate objections:” This statement exemplifies the hubris that I also “....specifically intended to declare...”. So you are the arbiter of what is 'legitimate'? Did I miss an election for Hall Monitor somewhere? In future, I'll run my objections by you for your approval prior to posting.
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Wow! Too many big words!  Pat no need to apologize. One small problem I can see arising. If for example you have a song posted on page one, it is possible for some to comment on one or two of your songs say from page 3 and five. This technically places three of your songs on page one. If some one didn't pick up on the posting dates they could make an issue. Just a thought. The old saying if it aint broke don't try to fix it. May be a work around called be a warning from PG in your mail box to mention you are over posting. Or an automatic freeze on posting music for say seventy two hours or what ever time period works. Don't know how many lines of new code and man hours this would take. Just another thought. Rob.
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Sure is a good thing this new policy was instituted. It's working well.
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Sure is a good thing this new policy was instituted. It's working well. I would have to agree with you there.
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