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Anyone else get this - select 363 and when it loads up it immediately defaults in the mixer window as 369?
Why?
Does 363 actually exist and is it different to 369?
I have latest B2015 + all updates etc.
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Hi Ian!

That sounds like it is substituting what it (the programs) thinks is best for your song tempo. There is an Option that tells the program you want it to substitute for the tempo.

363 is 85, 369 is 65... what is your song tempo?

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Hi Ian,
Floyd's right on the money I'd say.
If substitution is in use, there will be a tilde character (~) at the start of the style name. Do you have that?
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Hi Floyd and Trev
The tempo is 77.
I get a DOUBLE tilde (~~) for the 369 when I ask for 363 and interstingly (for me anyway lol ) it says 369 but keeps the 363 title of 065. Odd!


Doubly odd is that you will see 1852 just above it - an RT with a tempo of 120 that I am running at 77. Its a bit "gargly" due to slow speed but it gives me the odd sound I wanted there.
So, if it will accept a 120 running at 77, why doesnt it accept my speed of 77 for 363 and 369, when the two tempos are quite close anyway?
The solution of course was to uncheck the box in Trevs illustration and now I can gert either.
Dumb thing is - NEITHER gives me the pedal steel backing that I was looking for anyway, even with "simpler" tagged. Ah Well!
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Regarding the 1852 - the likely explanation is that there is no obvious substitution for it at your tempo (or any tempo, likely) - in which case, you will get what you picked.

The pedal steel, more than any other RT (in my experience) only perform well at very close to their designated tempo. For example... 105 bpm is a real problem because the steel RTs are either 85 or 120 and "stretched" to 105 have obvious artifacts - I seem to run across that all the time (I must like 105)

But... hey... try to find someone to play steel for you for free... BIAB is great! smile

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My BB backing track also needed a bespoke Piano intro and fills and I got one my Club friends to do this.
But in the UK, a pedal steel player is as rare as hens teeth!!
I've decided to manage without it!


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105 bpm is a real problem because the steel RTs are either 85 or 120 and "stretched" to 105 have obvious artifacts - I seem to run across that all the time (I must like 105)


floyd,

I'm with you. 105 bpm, or thereabouts, is a great tempo. Have you put any requests in the Realtracks wishlist forum regarding this? If not, it might be worthwhile. The couple of times I've made RTs requests, they've eventuated! Now that might be just luck but maybe it wasn't!

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Hi Ian,
Check out ALL of the posts on this page. This answers your question (I hope!)

From PGM:
"The double Tilde means that the RealTrack being used is a substitute based on the tempo."

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